Looking for info on making RSO

http://phoenixtears.ca/make-the-medicine/

This link is to Rick's instructions for making the oil. He suggests using naptha, ether or alcohol. Process involves crushing a pound of good dry buds with the solvent, then pouring the liquid thru filters into bottles, then cooking that down in a rice cooker until there is just the oil.

Has anyone done this? I am not interested in blowing my roof off or going blind from a home brew poison but it would be nice to figure out how to safely produce some oil. Quite a few people are selling oil, seems like butane is popular for the extraction. RSO is intended to be eaten, something like a half gram or more a day for a couple months and then a continuing maintenance dose.

I'm throwing this out there in the hope that someone has done the homework on how a non-toxic extraction can be safely made. I wish there was a 'real science' lab working on this to either validate or discredit the medical claims, but there are enough people claiming to have had their cancers cured that it is time to look elsewhere.

I emailed back and forth with MrEdeck (off the hallucingenic substanced thread) he is a chemist. I asked him what possible differences there could be between RSO, BHO, and Cannabutter. Since they are all based on being soluble in oil. He thought there should be no major differences in the amount of medicine preserved. I thing RSO has a better rep with the med community because Rick Simpson is clearly not a stoner.

If you watch the video he states to do it outside. You won't blow the roof off of your garage if your standing next to it instead of in it. If your worried about it being non-toxic just cook it down in butter, or any cooking oil (coconut, corn, etc.). I don't know how the potency would differ. Also look up juicing raw cannabis on youtube, some interesting stuff there.

Bigtacofarmer said:

I emailed back and forth with MrEdeck (off the hallucingenic substanced thread) he is a chemist. I asked him what possible differences there could be between RSO, BHO, and Cannabutter. Since they are all based on being soluble in oil. He thought there should be no major differences in the amount of medicine preserved. I thing RSO has a better rep with the med community because Rick Simpson is clearly not a stoner.

If you watch the video he states to do it outside. You won't blow the roof off of your garage if your standing next to it instead of in it. If your worried about it being non-toxic just cook it down in butter, or any cooking oil (coconut, corn, etc.). I don't know how the potency would differ. Also look up juicing raw cannabis on youtube, some interesting stuff there.

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Thanks for the feedback Big. I'd like to see how someone makes the oil and how they decided that it was non-toxic and also if it helped them. Interesting that Rick says users-patients report that they ingest a gram of oil and don't get high. What?

I make and eat RS oil on the regular for pain management. I plan to return and to talk more about this subject but have to run at the moment.....but in a nutshell I soak dry buds in everclear overnight and then filter it through a coffee filter into a ceramic crockpot, and cook out the everclear until a thick black oil remains. 420circuit if I remember correct you are wanting to treat cancer with this oil, correct?
Take care,
Bshdctr

bshdctr said:

I make and eat RS oil on the regular for pain management. I plan to return and to talk more about this subject but have to run at the moment.....but in a nutshell I soak dry buds in everclear overnight and then filter it through a coffee filter into a ceramic crockpot, and cook out the everclear until a thick black oil remains. 420circuit if I remember correct you are wanting to treat cancer with this oil, correct?
Take care,
Bshdctr

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Looking forward to hearing your experience, thanks Bsh, and yes, unfortunately I plan to treat cancer with this. I like the common sense approach that you are using. I had tumor resection and 6 weeks of radiation and am clear of tumors at the moment. The next step for my treatment if and when tumors recur is chemo, which has not been shown to be effective against this type, so I am in a position where if there is anything that I can do to prevent regrowth, this is the time.

420circuit said:

http://phoenixtears.ca/make-the-medicine/

This link is to Rick's instructions for making the oil. He suggests using naptha, ether or alcohol. Process involves crushing a pound of good dry buds with the solvent, then pouring the liquid thru filters into bottles, then cooking that down in a rice cooker until there is just the oil.

Has anyone done this? I am not interested in blowing my roof off or going blind from a home brew poison but it would be nice to figure out how to safely produce some oil. Quite a few people are selling oil, seems like butane is popular for the extraction. RSO is intended to be eaten, something like a half gram or more a day for a couple months and then a continuing maintenance dose.

I'm throwing this out there in the hope that someone has done the homework on how a non-toxic extraction can be safely made. I wish there was a 'real science' lab working on this to either validate or discredit the medical claims, but there are enough people claiming to have had their cancers cured that it is time to look elsewhere.

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This is about the best demo I have found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2TRc99VhHRY&NR=1

We are traveling the same road with the cancer , the Everclear extraction appears to be best and safest , they cook it off , I have built an enclosed unit with a condenser so I can reclaim the Everclear , now we need MM access , are you in Colorado ? If so how do you like it there ? Can the MM be transferred if your over 21 ? Any information will be helpful

420circuit- Here a few things I left out on how I make the oil, and a few other thoughts I have about it.

1st- I always do the cooking off of the solvent outdoors. I just run an extension cord outside to the crockpot that is not sitting near any outdoor lights, vents, or anything that could potentially create a spark. As always with solvent hash oil making BE CAREFUL!!
I would love to build a condenser as mentioned in the above post and recapture some everclear as it is not cheap!

2nd- I actually have soaked the buds anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days. A longer soak definitely removes more chlorophyll and others things from the plant material resulting in a darker oil and more weight of it. I am not sure if it is better to have these extra "goodies" in the oil for cancer treatment, but there is a lot of info on oil making for cancer treatment over at greenpassion.org (hope riu doesn't mind me putting that link in). A great site for getting other opinions on the subject altogether.

3rd- I tend to get quite a lot of oil with even a small amount of buds (much more than the 60 grams/per 1 pound of flowers like Rick states).

4th- There are dispensaries that carry RS style oil, but I have one main concern with it, and the same concern applies to whatever herb source the oil is being made from- pesticides!
From what I have gathered from the "to dab or not to dab" seminars at the Cannabis Cup, solvent extraction also extracts and concentrates any pesticide residue left on the plant....and like you said, we are not trying to concoct any home poisons here.

5th-as far as dosing and the "high", I certainly feel a wonderful "subtle all body and mind" high that lasts quite a while if I eat a large dose (1/2 to 1 full gram) but I have also seen friends have acid like trips off of maybe 1/8th of a gram, so tolerance plays a huge role in dosing.

6th- last thing is sometimes I mix the oil 50/50 with some kind of fat like coconut oil or olive oil. To be honest I can never tell a difference if it helps the medicine be more effective or not....but I like to think it is

Sorry to ramble a little long here, of course these thing are just what I have noticed and practice from personal experience, no RS oil pro here by any means, just trying to not be in pain most of the time! Any way I can help 420 circuit I am happy to do so!
Blessings-

bshdctr said:

420circuit- Here a few things I left out on how I make the oil, and a few other thoughts I have about it.

1st- I always do the cooking off of the solvent outdoors. I just run an extension cord outside to the crockpot that is not sitting near any outdoor lights, vents, or anything that could potentially create a spark. As always with solvent hash oil making BE CAREFUL!!
I would love to build a condenser as mentioned in the above post and recapture some everclear as it is not cheap!

2nd- I actually have soaked the buds anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days. A longer soak definitely removes more chlorophyll and others things from the plant material resulting in a darker oil and more weight of it. I am not sure if it is better to have these extra "goodies" in the oil for cancer treatment, but there is a lot of info on oil making for cancer treatment over at greenpassion.org (hope riu doesn't mind me putting that link in). A great site for getting other opinions on the subject altogether.

3rd- I tend to get quite a lot of oil with even a small amount of buds (much more than the 60 grams/per 1 pound of flowers like Rick states).

4th- There are dispensaries that carry RS style oil, but I have one main concern with it, and the same concern applies to whatever herb source the oil is being made from- pesticides!
From what I have gathered from the "to dab or not to dab" seminars at the Cannabis Cup, solvent extraction also extracts and concentrates any pesticide residue left on the plant....and like you said, we are not trying to concoct any home poisons here.

5th-as far as dosing and the "high", I certainly feel a wonderful "subtle all body and mind" high that lasts quite a while if I eat a large dose (1/2 to 1 full gram) but I have also seen friends have acid like trips off of maybe 1/8th of a gram, so tolerance plays a huge role in dosing.

6th- last thing is sometimes I mix the oil 50/50 with some kind of fat like coconut oil or olive oil. To be honest I can never tell a difference if it helps the medicine be more effective or not....but I like to think it is

Sorry to ramble a little long here, of course these thing are just what I have noticed and practice from personal experience, no RS oil pro here by any means, just trying to not be in pain most of the time! Any way I can help 420 circuit I am happy to do so!
Blessings-

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Wow Bsh, that is awesome info, thank you for taking the time. I'll grab some Everclear and whip up a batch. I have neighbors in sight of my backyard and am concerned about their being able to smell the cooking so I'll need to figure that out before starting. I have a pretty unique medical situation as I have avoided almost every medicine since getting out of the hospital, except for a few sessions with some weed and a beer routine that helps more than you would think. I have been dealing with pain using mind control methods and no I am not a whacked out new age hipster, just a technical person who gets that there is a mind-body connection and that the pain is processed by our 'wetware' which can be influenced by thought.

I like the idea of Everclear and I'll do a test of a crock pot to see what temp it operates at and document my progress. When I take a toke my perspective on the constant pain changes and I tend to wind up with a dumbell, a free weight in my hand, waving it around and doing curls, mentally trying to show the disease that it is weak and I am stronger and intend to crush it. Talk about rambling... Thanks again.

skunkpharmresearch has a ton of good info. Not to piss in your fire but do a lot of research. RS seems to have become a bit of a dbag with his naptha only stance. rick simpson ego will get you some info.
I believe in canna cures but theres a bunch of dong measuring going on out there.

There some schools that say getting more of what we would call crap in the honey oil area may be beneficial for the cure. we dont know. not enough money has been spent on research.
Theres some thought that RSO w/ naptha works "better" than just eating say primo BHO BECAUSE of the toxins in the naptha making your liver work harder and giving the thc more time to circlulate in your body. A reason you are supposed to eat ripe mangos with your oil.

again not enough research has been done. just a bunch of "stories" by people.
I would just eat as much and as many types as I could afford.
I would eat the long soak naptha and the vac purged BHO. because if its the THC that does it all you want the BHO with high thc. If its the "something else" and you only eat primo BHO you may not be getting what you need.

im not a doctor and ive never stayed at a holiday inn express so take that with a grain...

Great info in this thread, thanks guys. I didn't read the directions on the RSO link (sorry been a long day ), so my comment may not be germane, but what temps do you think you achieve when boiling off the Everclear? Ethanol boils @ 173deg at sea level, so lower temp @ a mile high. I have read that you want to get the concentrate up over 200 deg for about an hour in order for the THC to decarboxywhateverits called and this seems to work for me. Ask any 2 experts and you will get 2 different answers though, and I'm certainly not an expert. However, I have been making bho caps for some time. Here is the recipe I use, maybe it might work pretty good to just substitute the RSO for the BHO?


I use 1.5 tsp of organic coconut oil (natural grocer, etc. carries this) to 1 gram of BHO. This will make approx. (10) 00 capsules, of course this scales up for bigger quantities. I find that 1 cap gives me a strong pain relief effect, 2 will get me baked and 3 = couch lock. If you decide to try this, here's a pic of how I go about making the caps. A must is a cheap syringe (like for kids ibuprofen) and a block of fake plant styrofoam from Michaels (you know the crunchy stuff you stick fake flowers in to hold them in an arrangement) a nice to have is a candy thermometer. Get a plain ole bic ballpoint pin and use the blunt end to press holes in the foam block, the hole size fits a 00 cap perfect so you can stand them up. Then draw up the coco/bho mix after its done Cookin, but before it cools off too much, and fill them caps. Be careful with the plunger yo, it don't take much to fill a cap, easy does it. Also, don't draw it up too hot as it will melt the cap, sounds hard, but really very simple once you do it. I can make a batch in 1.5 hours total. Some folks say to let it cook 24 hours, but I don't notice a difference after an hour IMHO. BTW, the cleanest caps I have made is with CO2 strawberry cough extract that I got at Denver Relief a few months ago ( Huxley bros I think).... the extract was kind of yellow and crumbly, not sticky at all.... made beautiful golden caps.




Fyi this batch was actually an ounce of weed that I ground down to flour consistency and cooked in the oil. Harder to make caps like this cause can't use syringe... And the plant matter gives me the wind. So I used some cheesecloth to squeeze out the oil. In the end, I only got about 10 caps... I'm kind of scared to take one now


Maybe the reason why the RS patients don't get high is because he doesn't decarboxywhateverits (sorry for the lazy reference, if you google decarb weed you will get more info than you know what to do with, much contradictory) called the oil, so the THC never went active?


Just a thought. And I don't think you're crazy because you think the mind/body interface can be controlled, I already thought you were nuts before I ever even heard that theory. Sorry, just kidding bro, a little levity never hurts. Seriously, I believe the mind can effect the body's chemistry. There are cases where people have been recorded lowering their BP & heart rate significantly through meditation, if they can do that, you can too bro.

ilikecheetoes said:

skunkpharmresearch has a ton of good info. Not to piss in your fire but do a lot of research. RS seems to have become a bit of a dbag with his naptha only stance. rick simpson ego will get you some info.
I believe in canna cures but theres a bunch of dong measuring going on out there.

There some schools that say getting more of what we would call crap in the honey oil area may be beneficial for the cure. we dont know. not enough money has been spent on research.
Theres some thought that RSO w/ naptha works "better" than just eating say primo BHO BECAUSE of the toxins in the naptha making your liver work harder and giving the thc more time to circlulate in your body. A reason you are supposed to eat ripe mangos with your oil.

again not enough research has been done. just a bunch of "stories" by people.
I would just eat as much and as many types as I could afford.
I would eat the long soak naptha and the vac purged BHO. because if its the THC that does it all you want the BHO with high thc. If its the "something else" and you only eat primo BHO you may not be getting what you need.

im not a doctor and ive never stayed at a holiday inn express so take that with a grain...

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Thanks Cheetos, I'll research this further. Agreed about the state of our knowledge on this subject, seems to be just speculation and anecdotal evidence, stories from "patients." I am hopeful that there is a nugget of truth in the stories as I have met 2 people who are claiming that they were cured by "hash oil". One is a melanoma patient who is the picture of health. Wouldn't it be something if the actual mechanism that cured was the toxic stuff from naptha affecting the liver?

I am concerned that people who love weed are promoting this as cure because it helps their cause, not because there is any evidence that it actually works. Bias is research is a big problem. Looking for a scientific study that discredits this did not result in anything so I am going to push on and hope that there is something to this. Thank you for your help.

You said you want proof it works? My old man had a gnarly skin growth that had the ABCs of being possibly cancerous. I whipped him up a batch of rso and he would eat it everyday. In the process he decided to see what happened if he rubbed it on his spot. It went away after a couple weeks. His non mmj gf was ready to jump on the rso oil bandwagon after it dissapeared. I think the longer the soak the better for curing cancer. I would stay away from bho. Bho is for people looking to get retarded high. Bho can also cause heart racing and dizziness etc.

420circuit said:

Thanks Cheetos, I'll research this further. Agreed about the state of our knowledge on this subject, seems to be just speculation and anecdotal evidence, stories from "patients." I am hopeful that there is a nugget of truth in the stories as I have met 2 people who are claiming that they were cured by "hash oil". One is a melanoma patient who is the picture of health. Wouldn't it be something if the actual mechanism that cured was the toxic stuff from naptha affecting the liver?

I am concerned that people who love weed are promoting this as cure because it helps their cause, not because there is any evidence that it actually works. Bias is research is a big problem. Looking for a scientific study that discredits this did not result in anything so I am going to push on and hope that there is something to this. Thank you for your help.

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Here is a list of various boiling points , they are from Graywolfs site .

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/cannabinoid-info/
[h=2]Cannabinoid and Terpene Info[/h] Posted by Skunk Pharm Research,LLC.
?-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic
cannabidiol (CBD) Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic
Cannabinol (CBN) Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic
cannabichromene (CBC) Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal
cannabigerol (CBG) Boiling point: MP52 Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal
?-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (?-8-THC) Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Resembles ?-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic
tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV) Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant
Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties
ß-myrcene Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic
ß-caryophyllene Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial
d-limonene Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic
linalool Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator
pulegone Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic
1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive
a-pinene Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor
a-terpineol Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial
terpineol-4-ol Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic
p-cymene Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor
Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties
apigenin Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic
quercetin Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic
cannflavin A Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor
ß-sitosterol Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-a-reductase, inhibitor

bshdctr said:

420circuit- Here a few things I left out on how I make the oil, and a few other thoughts I have about it.

1st- I always do the cooking off of the solvent outdoors. I just run an extension cord outside to the crockpot that is not sitting near any outdoor lights, vents, or anything that could potentially create a spark. As always with solvent hash oil making BE CAREFUL!!
I would love to build a condenser as mentioned in the above post and recapture some everclear as it is not cheap!

2nd- I actually have soaked the buds anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days. A longer soak definitely removes more chlorophyll and others things from the plant material resulting in a darker oil and more weight of it. I am not sure if it is better to have these extra "goodies" in the oil for cancer treatment, but there is a lot of info on oil making for cancer treatment over at greenpassion.org (hope riu doesn't mind me putting that link in). A great site for getting other opinions on the subject altogether.

3rd- I tend to get quite a lot of oil with even a small amount of buds (much more than the 60 grams/per 1 pound of flowers like Rick states).

4th- There are dispensaries that carry RS style oil, but I have one main concern with it, and the same concern applies to whatever herb source the oil is being made from- pesticides!
From what I have gathered from the "to dab or not to dab" seminars at the Cannabis Cup, solvent extraction also extracts and concentrates any pesticide residue left on the plant....and like you said, we are not trying to concoct any home poisons here.

5th-as far as dosing and the "high", I certainly feel a wonderful "subtle all body and mind" high that lasts quite a while if I eat a large dose (1/2 to 1 full gram) but I have also seen friends have acid like trips off of maybe 1/8th of a gram, so tolerance plays a huge role in dosing.

6th- last thing is sometimes I mix the oil 50/50 with some kind of fat like coconut oil or olive oil. To be honest I can never tell a difference if it helps the medicine be more effective or not....but I like to think it is

Sorry to ramble a little long here, of course these thing are just what I have noticed and practice from personal experience, no RS oil pro here by any means, just trying to not be in pain most of the time! Any way I can help 420 circuit I am happy to do so!
Blessings-

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This link will give you the basic idea of building a condenser , except the condenser shown was way to small to work good , I reached the ideal size , 50 ft of .5ID copper in a 5 gal bucket , lost less than 5% and that was only because some stayed in the coil , so you can use the Everclear over and over . odor was not a problem either .Do you make any with trim only ? If so what is your yield ?, I doubt if I will be able to afford the bud .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNq28DDjlA0

NEEDMMASAP said:

This link will give you the basic idea of building a condenser , except the condenser shown was way to small to work good , I reached the ideal size , 50 ft of .5ID copper in a 5 gal bucket , lost less than 5% and that was only because some stayed in the coil , so you can use the Everclear over and over . odor was not a problem either .Do you make any with trim only ? If so what is your yield ?, I doubt if I will be able to afford the bud .

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Hey NeedMM, thanks for all the info! I have not made anything yet, just getting going here in Colorful Colorado where this is legal as far as I can tell, but the laws are sometimes a bit gray at the moment as the latest rules are still being concocted. I cannot offer any yield results and am not really clear about transferring bud without a red card, the MM license. Some folks are sayin' you can transfer, for a 'donation' an ounce under the amendment 64 rules, but heck if I can find where the new law says that, so I don't know. I'll be going slow on this and would like to get it right and have a product that is properly made, non-toxic and hopefully effective. Are you in a mmj state? BTW, I'll probably be crushing up a pound of high quality buds to make a batch of oil, but I haven't grown that much yet, there is an exciting day in my future when I pour a bottle of alcohol over a pound of buds.

The law states that you can transfer up to an oz of cannabis to another person over 21 with NO renumeration. So donations are not ok.
However it sure seems like that leaves a loophole for the baggie or jar. "Free oz of weed with baggie purchase!" seems like you are not getting renumeration with the cannabis, just the baggie.....

TruenoAE86coupe said:

The law states that you can transfer up to an oz of cannabis to another person over 21 with NO renumeration. So donations are not ok.
However it sure seems like that leaves a loophole for the baggie or jar. "Free oz of weed with baggie purchase!" seems like you are not getting renumeration with the cannabis, just the baggie.....

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Okay could this be worked , say I come to Colorado and I want to make oil for health reasons , I plan to use trim because that&#8217;s probably all I can afford to start , when I harvest then I can use bud , but I would think no one is going to want to give me free trim , but if someone were to give me trim and out of gratitude I gave them say , growing equipment of some kind or nutes (Whatever) Would I be able to find some that would be agreeable to that ? Of course if its illegal it could not be done and I know that .

420circuit said:

Hey NeedMM, thanks for all the info! I have not made anything yet, just getting going here in Colorful Colorado where this is legal as far as I can tell, but the laws are sometimes a bit gray at the moment as the latest rules are still being concocted. I cannot offer any yield results and am not really clear about transferring bud without a red card, the MM license. Some folks are sayin' you can transfer, for a 'donation' an ounce under the amendment 64 rules, but heck if I can find where the new law says that, so I don't know. I'll be going slow on this and would like to get it right and have a product that is properly made, non-toxic and hopefully effective. Are you in a mmj state? BTW, I'll probably be crushing up a pound of high quality buds to make a batch of oil, but I haven't grown that much yet, there is an exciting day in my future when I pour a bottle of alcohol over a pound of buds.

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I&#8217;ve got lots of info , I&#8217;ve been going over this for about 4 months , did you watch the tape on the condenser ? I&#8217;ve got that down to an art , first tried it with Iso , worked perfect , almost full recovery then tried gin alcohol ( first reduced it down to Everclear level ) and it worked perfect also . No I&#8217;m in Florida and MM is illegal here , been using regular veg oil then measured and checked for purity . Was going to do things in MI ( 12 plant count there ) but their laws are screwed up pretty bad there . What part of Colorado did you settle in and do you like it there ? Seen cheap homes in Pueblo , have you been in that area ?

Should be fine, but remember you can only carry 1 oz at a time, per adult 21 or over.
I am sure when you are here it won't be nearly as hard to find free trim as you think. Make friends, lots of friends and your generosity will always be returned, we have a great community out here. I know i would toss a fair amount of quality trim your way most of the time.

NEEDMMASAP said:

I&#8217;ve got lots of info , I&#8217;ve been going over this for about 4 months , did you watch the tape on the condenser ? I&#8217;ve got that down to an art , first tried it with Iso , worked perfect , almost full recovery then tried gin alcohol ( first reduced it down to Everclear level ) and it worked perfect also . No I&#8217;m in Florida and MM is illegal here , been using regular veg oil then measured and checked for purity . Was going to do things in MI ( 12 plant count there ) but their laws are screwed up pretty bad there . What part of Colorado did you settle in and do you like it there ? Seen cheap homes in Pueblo , have you been in that area ?

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You probably don't want to live in Pueblo, really secluded from the rest of the state. Look into Colorado Springs or somewhere in the Metro Denver area, north is cheaper than south. I am in Brighton, i personally like it here, far enough from the city to not have to deal with traffic or other big city issues, close enough to still be able to go where i need to go. Just my .02 but you will here a lot of similar about Pueblo from others.