Lollipop Yield.

Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

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My SoG op running 2x 1000HPS lamps yields about 1-1.5oz per plant with 2.6 plants per sq ft (900mm x 900mm trays x4, 23 plants in 175mm x 175mm pots in each flood tray), so 2.6-3.9oz/sq ft. Could grow as many as 4 plants per sq ft (140mm x 140mm pots) in a SoG if you like.


An average SoG budstalk, about 1-1.25z here.

SoG ops beat the pants off of anything in per sq ft yield because they only grow the top cola, the biggest & densest buds the plant can make, with none of the fluffy little popcorn buds produced on lower branches, which are removed in SoG.



Ops in which tall/bushy plants are grown yield the least per sf due to a lot of floorspace devoted to growing plants with small branches.


SoG pruning removes all the branching. By flowering clones immediately after setting root, SoG produces short plants, better suited to indoor lighting. Even the mighty 1000HPS can only penetrate foliage so deeply and still produce rock-hard buds, about 1m or so.

Done well, ScrOG is art. However, it's not the most productive method and it takes a lot of stuffing around, tying down branches. ScrOG ops do somewhat better than bushy plant ops but can't touch the speed and nor per lighted sq ft yield of a SoG. They also require that the plant to be flowered is vegged for a week or two before flowering; a delay not needed in SoG as clones are not vegged before flowering.

Only downside to SoG is the high plant counts. SoG depends on a larger number of smaller plants, but each of those small plants is a top cola.
 
iceman2007

iceman2007

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Frankly Mr, Aeroponic, you are basically speaking of of The Scientific Method, as you probably remember in HIGH SCHOOL! And personally, if you are experienced as others and their grow ops, your quest for averages can only be answered though Experimenting. Do a research method write it down, and by all means enjoy the fruits. For example, it was discussed about how much grams per watt of light? Or rather what is the Average of grams of 3 samples of you know wha.t One said 1g/1w, another i think it was .7/1w, and maybe another said .8/1w(1.0+.7+.9=2.7/3=0.9 for average)
 
mrbuzzsaw

mrbuzzsaw

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aeroponics said:
is that a big yeild increaser. i thought it was more for space. i am new grower....an i kinda know how to do SCROG but not exactly ..... and i didnt know it increased yeild so i havent done to much research on it.... and i didnt think i could do it too successfully with my system.
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ok i have been reading this and i figured i would jump in.

all things being equal you can get a large yeld from sog. but you have to have it dialed in. do you have it dialed in?
soc was developed for perpetual grow to provide maximum ventilation and maximum light to all the plant material while allowing many plants to take up a compact space.
can you gt as much out of it? that totally depends on you.
if you are a green thumb and dial it in of course if you are a plant burning over nutin clown you will end up with crap.

like many people on here looking for info expect this to happen for you.
"if i go single cola will i get more?"

this is a question you need to ask yourself.
better yet ask yourself this.
how can i maximize my yield using this method.

then you can tell us.
tpo be honest lollipops allows you to grow a single big ass bud. his in my opinion is best due to less headaches .i trim a nice big bud and i am done
plus a mamoth 1 oz bud is pretty fucking Impresive
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
infamouse21 said:
well 2 be honest at first we mesured but now we kinda just suck some into a dropper & pour. but its about 1.5 ml per gallon
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I dose my tanks with 50% grade H2O2 @ 1ml/L every 3-4 days. 1ml/L = 3.78ml/US gallon. The measurement can be a little floppy & sloppy, but you do want to use enough to nuke the baddies.
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
mrbuzzsaw said:
soc was developed for perpetual grow to provide maximum ventilation and maximum light to all the plant material while allowing many plants to take up a compact space
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It was a very clever idea to tailor the plant to the light, notably HPS light. Before HPS lights were easily and cheaply available, it was the other way around. Indoor growers surrounded bushy plants with fluoro tubes.

"if i go single cola will i get more?"
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The answer to that is always yes, provided the grower fills the lighted space with pots of plants. If you want to grow 1 plant, SoG isn't your best option. SoG per-plant yields are easily beaten. SoG makes high per sq ft yields by growing a large number of small plants. You can put 4-6 SoG plants in the same space as one tall/bushy plant.

a mamoth 1 oz bud is pretty fucking Impresive
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While a single mammoth 1z bud may be impressive, that the growing style which produces them permits 3-4 of them per sf, eliminates veg time and facilitates perpetual grows is downright dumbfounding.

aquamistgrower said:
im going to do this on my next grow
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Hopefully not with the xmas tree lights pictured in your avatar. :lol:
 
gvega187

gvega187

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yeah your plan is decent mr. aero.

Blunts is correct though, you don't want to spend that money on those aeroflos.

Also your current lack of problems as a newb is because of the factory new aeroflo that you are currently using. Keep that bitch clean with h2o2 and it will save you many headaches. Also be sure you got cloning down perfect.

I have come up with this exact same setup a few years ago.

Read this forum, contact EARL or other DIY experts and MAKE UR OWN AERO TUBES. If you are really terrible as a craftsman thennnn buy all that stuff.

and listen to logan
 
feareffect

feareffect

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AVERAGE in my expirence is 1-2oz on a aeroponic system.the longer you let them veg(18-24lights)
the more yield.you MUST have good light coverage.good luck!!
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
feareffect said:
AVERAGE in my expirence is 1-2oz on a aeroponic system.the longer you let them veg(18-24lights) the more yield. you MUST have good light coverage.good luck!!
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Vegging plants which are later to be flowered gives you tall plants. Tall plants are not the indoor grower's friend. Even the mighty 1000HPS can penetrate foliage only so deeply, so growing short plants means even the lowermost buds will be big, solid nugs.

You'll get more bud in less time if you SoG it- grow a larger number of smaller plants, don't veg before flowering. prune all branching on the lower 1/3 of the stem in wk 1 & again in wk 3 of flowering. Zero-veg time cuts the total time from cloning to harvesting and allows you to run a perpetual flowering area.
 
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my7k

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LoganSmith said:
It will take two months or more to grow any plant. You will need 6 different areas to get product out every two weeks.

1. Mother plants
2. cloned plants
3. Weeks 1 and 2
4. Weeks 3 and 4
5. weeks 5 and 6
6. weeks 7 and 8

then dry time one to two weeks
and also curing time up to 4 months for the good stuff.


So you will just take X amount of plants and put them into each cycle at the correct time.
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Why 3-6? Why not all the same. Theyre all on 12/12. Youd only need to adjust the nutes for the four separate groups and that would only be for a short time.

Four month cure is outta control btw. Side by side, you wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a four day dry, four week cure and the above method
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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billybob88 said:
i have a 9x4 room with 12 plants, i am looking to yeild 4 oz per plant. if done correct scrog is one of the heaviest yeilding techniques. you veg your plants longer to fill up the screen. and since every budsite is getting equal light, all budsites turn into top main colas. kinda like lollipopping but in a screen so all the branches are on the same plane.[/wow I use a 4x8 area ebb and flow and shooting for at least 48oz every 30 days. Maybe im expecting to muchQUOTE]
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