Lolipop vs not in SoG

hello all.

See shouldI lolipop my SoG plants or leave them/

I have read and seen mixed results but most point to lolipopping actuially does not do much other than air flow.

it just seems like there is no point to it.

Any conclusive evidance esp in SoG (sea of green) not scrog.

it might not boost overall yield as some suggest but it does improve the overall quality and consistency of the finished product.

some people don't mind fluffy buds but i would rather have dense fully ripened tops all day.

Here's logic:
Plants get energy from light,absorbed thru their leaves..let's cut off their method of achieving energy....that's not right?
Hmm....
Sounds questionable at best...

rory420420 said:

Here's logic:
Plants get energy from light,absorbed thru their leaves..let's cut off their method of achieving energy....that's not right?
Hmm....
Sounds questionable at best...

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Exactially.

ghb said:

it might not boost overall yield as some suggest but it does improve the overall quality and consistency of the finished product.

some people don't mind fluffy buds but i would rather have dense fully ripened tops all day.

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But is that proven? I dont think so. I doubt lolipopping makes dense buds as I have seen plants un popped and dense buds.
I just dont think lollipopping does much good for the plant.
Only thing it does is create one top cola or many if your using scrog, but thenagain somepeople dont want popcorn buds and are willing to sacrifice a few oz or more for one top bud.
I jsut dont think it will be any better for my SoG plants

Do you believe that if I lolipop i will get the same yield of one giant bud as i would without?From what I see lolipopping decreases yeild.

You cut off potential budsites...no.

but seems lolipopping may be best as im in hydro in 3 inch net pots.

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rory420420 said:

You cut off potential budsites...no.

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Exactially. I have a hard time beliving if I cut off bud sites ill get the same yield in one bud. I dont believe plants work that way.
I know putting those bud sites to more light makes more bud but cuttin them offf I dont think so. Thanks for chiming in

Lollipop no...mainline yes. Take off lower bud sites not the leaves.

personal lux said:

Lollipop no...mainline yes. Take off lower bud sites not the leaves.

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Why wouldI take of potentialbud stires?I assume to get allteh enery gothe other buds and create an even bud canopy. Im in Sea of Green so going for 1 giant but but mainly want to knowpeopleopinion

Trippyness said:

Why wouldI take of potentialbud stires?I assume to get allteh enery gothe other buds and create an even bud canopy. Im in Sea of Green so going for 1 giant but but mainly want to knowpeopleopinion

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Thats exactly why you do it, more even growth up top. also cuta down on having to trim those little baby buds. Ive run 16 and 9 plants per 1000 watter many times. with 16 3 gallons i went for 5-6 main brances each, with 9 5 gallons i went for around 10 each. Id have about 90 large colas per light. Averaging about 1.5lb per light. I think you can find my 6kwatt 54 plant grow on here, been about 6 months.

I like lollipopping. When you have a dense canopy like with scrog, light does not get to the bottom and you get little yield and you will get a lot of yellowing of leaves as the light is not getting to them. Plus by lollipopping you are not wasting any of the plants energy on the lower yielding branches but it is all focused on the branches receiving light and producing buds.

Ok thanks all.
I shall only be trimking the useless popcorn parts and keep the large main colas.

My main issue is that will this decrease yield as I have not seen anywhere where doing this increases only decreases, but what do I know.

Ill cut off all small branching.

You run Scrog and that does increase yield due to penatration but with SoG penatration is not an issue and if it does beome one I will trim.

thanks keep an eye out for my Grow journal starting tomorrow.1400 watts in aero, whitewidow

How can you mainline in SOG? That makes no sense at all...I like lollipopping for SOG...all these answers, but most of them are personal experience from people who don't RUN SOG lol

vitamin_green_inc said:

How can you mainline in SOG? That makes no sense at all...I like lollipopping for SOG...all these answers, but most of them are personal experience from people who don't RUN SOG lol

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Good to know, when do you start trimming the useless branching?
As it becomes avalible or 2nd week?
I vegged my clones for 1 week adn this is the first week of preflower and net will be first week of full flower.
Just wondering on when I should trim as they are getting to be bushes.
As well, only trim the popcorn bud sites not the large leavs that absorb energy correct?
I am new to SoG but doing well so far

Yeah sounds good, tbh it's going to be strain dependent for how much to cut and how deep into flowrr to cut. You have a good plan so just stick to it, then run them again with slight changes to isolate each factor

vitamin_green_inc said:

Yeah sounds good, tbh it's going to be strain dependent for how much to cut and how deep into flowrr to cut. You have a good plan so just stick to it, then run them again with slight changes to isolate each factor

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Thats what i will be doing.
I have 33 Whit Widow.
I shall be cutting starting next week when first official day of flower starts after this week of preflower as my female pistils are coming in already.
Thanks for the tip.
I get quite annoyed getting SoG advie from non SoG growers. thanks for the big help and deciding factor

vitamin_green_inc said:

How can you mainline in SOG? That makes no sense at all...I like lollipopping for SOG...all these answers, but most of them are personal experience from people who don't RUN SOG lol

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how cant you lol? If you have 16 under a 1000 that 1 sq foot per plant. Id suggest having only 4 main branches aka mainlining. If you lollipop it to 10 branches thats a lot of crowding in a sq foot.

The point of SoG is the have many plants per square foot 4 or so.

I will be using defoliation actuially.
They are bushes now and its first week of flip so next week when they gotten through most of the stretch is when ill start doing what i need to do so I do now slow them in any way.
I may lolipop the pocorn buds but seeing as im under 1400 quite close under cooled hoods and room I may not.
Grow Journal to be up soon

personal lux said:

how cant you lol? If you have 16 under a 1000 that 1 sq foot per plant. Id suggest having only 4 main branches aka mainlining. If you lollipop it to 10 branches thats a lot of crowding in a sq foot.

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That's not what mainlining is? That could be fimming or topping and trimming up the bottom branches but you need to read the actual process. Yes, I'm being technical, but terms need to be used properly