Lizard lights for starting seedlings

BobCajun

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I'm trying something a little different with these White Cookies seeds, growing from birth under a reptile UVB 150 CFL instead of regular CFL or LED. I suspect that it may be the first conditions that a plant experiences which determine to some degree the potency of the mature plant, and UVB may very well cause them to be programmed to put out more resin and THC. I also put a neodymium magnet right next to the seeds while germing, to see if that helps any. Hopefully this will produce some super-cookies.Though the liz lights aren't the greatest spectrum for plant growth, they do have PAR light in them. Should work okay.
 
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BobCajun

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Here's a pic of the current situation.That's a 26w. Gotta put them very close for high UVB. This is about 2-3". No signs of damage so far.

 

BobCajun

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The one on the right is a real champ. Look how it's sucking up the lizard light. It can't get enough. The only light these plants have ever know is lizard.

 

BobCajun

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Well, I decided to stop using the lizard light on the seedlings now. It was making them stay very small. They looked fine except for staying small and growing very slowly. So I figure they must have had enough UV treatment now anyway. That was like 10 days altogether I guess. Might be hard to tell if it made any difference. White Cookies is a very resinous strain normally anyway. But maybe these ones will be even more extreme. Odds are, there will be no permanent effect, aside from maybe stunting. But it was worth a try, since I was starting seeds anyway and had the lizard lights on hand. Maybe I'll get a mini plant, or a mutated one.
 

BobCajun

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Now that the leaves are starting to come out I can see that there's some mutation, or deformation to them. Look all messed up basically. It will be a few days yet before I can really see how they turn out. Appears to have had a significant effect though.
 

BobCajun

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A closer shot of the larger Mutant Cookies plant a day after the last one. You can see the deformed leaves forming a little better now. I don't think this strain normally has that fat of leaves, does it? Maybe that's how Cannabis gets that Indica growth form. Maybe when exposed to higher UV from sprouting it gets like that, fatter leaves and shorter height. I gave them a lot higher UV than anywhere on earth though, so I may get a super-Indica. Those lizard lights put out a lot more UV than they state when they're new. It takes about 100 hours of burn-in for them to get down to the stated specs, and a reflector also makes it much stronger. That must have been like Bruce Banner in the Gamma ray device. They may have Hulked out.

 

Slyslain

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You are very optimistic about that UV bulb lol. Just saying that strains that test high thc in the 20's 30's don't use special uv bulbs.

Also you know each strain has different phenotypes. Depending on the strain you could have one plant could be indica dominate and another sativa.
 

BobCajun

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You are very optimistic about that UV bulb lol. Just saying that strains that test high thc in the 20's 30's don't use special uv bulbs.

Also you know each strain has different phenotypes. Depending on the strain you could have one plant could be indica dominate and another sativa.
Yeah I know. The plants could also grow out further and return to normal leaf form. You never know though, it may have some enhancing effect.
 

BobCajun

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Though still too small to show up in a pic, I can now see more weird shit. Branches growing out of a petiole, like midway between the stem and the leaflets, on one plant. On the other, a branch growing out of the main stem between two petioles instead of from where the petioles join the stem. And some really messed leaf structure. Should be interesting to see where this goes as it gets bigger. Mutant Cookies may be the best strain ever. Clone only.
 

BobCajun

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Growing out more. Not topped, just naturally produced multiple branches. What doesn't kill you mutates you. Good thing I removed them from the lizard light when I did though. Bizarrely wide leaves though, and very short stature. These were also treated with neodymium magnets when germinating in paper towel, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. No way to know if that had any effect. I really Bruce Bannered them up.

 
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BobCajun

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Does White Cookies normally have leaves this wide, or did the UV turn them into super-Indicas? They're also growing at an alarming rate.

 
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Rusher

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I just finished my White Cookies run (APR2016-JUL2016) and they definitely did not look like that. All 4 of mine were perfectly uniform the whole time, no mutation, standard ass indica dom. You fucked 'em up real good with that wacky light. Can't wait to see more pics. Here's a pic of mine.
 

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BobCajun

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I just finished my White Cookies run (APR2016-JUL2016) and they definitely did not look like that. All 4 of mine were perfectly uniform the whole time, no mutation, standard ass indica dom. You fucked 'em up real good with that wacky light. Can't wait to see more pics. Here's a pic of mine.
I see that the leaves are wide even as seedlings in your pic too, so that part is probably natural. Guess it's just the deformities that are different. It'll probably turn out normal after it grows out past the messed up parts. Never know though, it could be extra resinous. The leaves on mine do look a little wider though.

So you grew the strain to maturity? How'd it turn out. Good strain overall? Is it like SinMint Cookies with ridiculous amounts of resin?
 

Rusher

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I see that the leaves are wide even as seedlings in your pic too, so that part is probably natural. Guess it's just the deformities that are different. It'll probably turn out normal after it grows out past the messed up parts. Never know though, it could be extra resinous. The leaves on mine do look a little wider though.

So you grew the strain to maturity? How'd it turn out. Good strain overall? Is it like SinMint Cookies with ridiculous amounts of resin?
Finished 4/5 plants. One didn't make it past the first week, but showed none of the abnormalities yours do. The smoke was very good; not crazy resin like the SinMint pheno, but not lacking. VERY hybrid effect, super head rush and giggle time followed by relaxed mellow sofa time. I used 20 23w 2700k CFLs to flower, and got just shy of 2 zips per plant. Not a great yield, but sturdy grower, and stable throughout. It took full nutes without a hiccough during the entire grow. I think I'd likely run it again, but want to work through a few more beans from my collection before I start doing repeats.
 

BobCajun

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Finished 4/5 plants. One didn't make it past the first week, but showed none of the abnormalities yours do. The smoke was very good; not crazy resin like the SinMint pheno, but not lacking. VERY hybrid effect, super head rush and giggle time followed by relaxed mellow sofa time. I used 20 23w 2700k CFLs to flower, and got just shy of 2 zips per plant. Not a great yield, but sturdy grower, and stable throughout. It took full nutes without a hiccough during the entire grow. I think I'd likely run it again, but want to work through a few more beans from my collection before I start doing repeats.
Thanks, sounds like it has potential. I won't jump into it too much though until I see the actual buds. I have a Bubble Bomb pheno now that's very close to an ideal production plant, fat buds that develop quickly with ample resin but very low odor in growth. I had used PC fans as ventilation and put pieces of carbon filter pad over them but found that it reduced air flow too much so I removed them and still can't even smell anything significant in the room. Nothing normal air fresheners can't cover. I would like to get the SinMint though, if anyone ever actually gets it in stock.
 
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