Living soil material sourcing EU

janiking

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Hello , so long story short , I want to make a coots mix living soil. Now this would be great if I was in the USA and could just order from buildasoil and make shit easy, but Im from Eu, NL. My problem is all the info I gathered so far leads me running circles trying to find peat for example. Also my dutch is weak to say the least so there is also that in the way.

Is there anybody based near me who is practicing no till living soil, and who could maybe point me in the right direction as to where to source my materials?
I understand its basic gardening and i should be able to find everything at a local gardening shop, but i want quality products.
 

Playk328

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If you have the resources around you then you can build your own soil, a little bit of composting of mother nature would make for some nice living soil.. Some hay, leaves, wood chips, you can also do mounds with logs as the base and just keep piling on the carbon and the greens in a 3/1 ratio.. You could also do worm bins inside your garden beds, this will help enrich the soil as well. Compost/maures/some humic from broken down wood logs is also good..
 

Playk328

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I myself am redoing my garden beds outdoors this year, I do have the luxury of getting Peat tho but here is how I am building mine..

4ft wide x 8ft long x 3ft deep holes.. I will line the bottom with broken down wood logs that Ive had piled up for several years now.. I am also using resources on my neighbors plot which is about 90 acres or so.. After I have the beds lined with a few inches of broken down wood logs I will then add in some top soil that I dug up from the hole, I will also mix in some compost, worm castings, some bunny droppings, some dry organic nutrients such as blood meal, bone meal ect.. I will mix this layer, then the next layer I will add in the Peatmoss, more compost, castings, droppings, dry nutrients.. and then I will add soft woodchips on the top layer for mulch.. Most everything I will be using to make this be will come locally sourced from my land and my neighbors.
 

janiking

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If you have easy access to coco that works very well. I'm organic living soil. I built my mix over the years of trial and error.
I do have a bag of coco laying about , so now just worm casting or compost and aeration correct? I know the coots mix is 3 equal parts but heard this is kind of soggy for smaller containers , Im planning on 2x50L pot.
 

Playk328

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Do you have access to dry nutes such as bone meal, blood meal, kelp, you can get alfalfa pellets at feed stores real cheap and that could be your alfalfa meal, some lime, some gypsum.. Worm castings is also getting pretty damn expensive, Im planning on farming my own starting this year, also sheep manure you can get it already fully composted pretty cheap at garden centres.
 

Playk328

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I have bunny's as pets, imo they are the best garden buddies to have. I wouldn't let them loose in your garden but they give you reasons to have alfalfa, greens for composting, wood chips, hay and of course their bunny droppings on hand at all times..
 

Playk328

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We are going to get another bunny this weekend, looking at getting the Flemish Giant, plenty of bunny poop from one of these big 20lb giants.
 

bam0813

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We are going to get another bunny this weekend, looking at getting the Flemish Giant, plenty of bunny poop from one of these big 20lb giants.
I wouldn’t. You get just as much from smaller breeds like NZ and smaller feed tab
 

janiking

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We are going to get another bunny this weekend, looking at getting the Flemish Giant, plenty of bunny poop from one of these big 20lb giants.
However much id like to have bunnies I am forced to do tent grows and only got a small 90*90 tent.
Also Im currently in the middle of a run with biobizz stuff. Would a SST be beneficial if added? Or should I just do this run as I have till now?

Im Pretty sure I can get my hands on those meals. BTW I know this is a dumb question but are meals just powdered dry material?
 

bam0813

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If you use them for personal consumption as well they definitely are a waste as theyre weight is bone
 

bam0813

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However much id like to have bunnies I am forced to do tent grows and only got a small 90*90 tent.
Also Im currently in the middle of a run with biobizz stuff. Would a SST be beneficial if added? Or should I just do this run as I have till now?

Im Pretty sure I can get my hands on those meals. BTW I know this is a dumb question but are meals just powdered dry material?
Lol you dont keep them in your tent haha jk. Meals are dry material some are cooked etc
 

Playk328

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However much id like to have bunnies I am forced to do tent grows and only got a small 90*90 tent.
Also Im currently in the middle of a run with biobizz stuff. Would a SST be beneficial if added? Or should I just do this run as I have till now?

Im Pretty sure I can get my hands on those meals. BTW I know this is a dumb question but are meals just powdered dry material?
Yeah meals are basically ground up powder.. Alfalfa I get it at a local feed store, I pay like 14 dollars for around 25 lb bag of pellets, I do not even grind them up, I just let them break down on their own.. You can use these in compost teas as well as throwing them into your compost pile. If you are looking to go as cheap as you can you should be looking at local feed stores, farmers, they always have organic materials they are happy to get rid of.
 

Playk328

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I wouldn’t. You get just as much from smaller breeds like NZ and smaller feed tab
Our bunnies are our pets, they are house pets actually.. We have a Rex and a Holland Lop, we had a lionhead doe who was bonded to our Rex doe but she got sick and past away last week, since then our bonded Rex is depressed and we are looking at getting her another bond mate, our Lops are too small and our Rex has became a bit aggressive since her mate passed, so the hopes is to take our Rex to see these Flemish bunnies and see if she likes any of them, also my daughter really wants a Flemish, what's not to like about a 20lb fluffy flopper.
 

janiking

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Yeah meals are basically ground up powder.. Alfalfa I get it at a local feed store, I pay like 14 dollars for around 25 lb bag of pellets, I do not even grind them up, I just let them break down on their own.. You can use these in compost teas as well as throwing them into your compost pile. If you are looking to go as cheap as you can you should be looking at local feed stores, farmers, they always have organic materials they are happy to get rid of.
Money isnt an issue luckily , im just sick of throwing away soil , and have seen what our beloved plants are capable of in fertile natural ground and I would like to mimic that as much as possible. Also I just like the idea of a living so to say little world in my tent, I find it fascinating and apart from full hydro ive tried em all.Also I like the idea of not having to worry tooo much about correct ammounts of feed /pH/EC. I will be making my own wormbin soon too, luckily the missus thinks they are cute and wants to help :D
 

bam0813

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Makes sense. If these are pets than they make sense lol. Sorry about your loss . I actually just lost a litter but thats life on the farm to me and completely different from a child losing a pet
 

janiking

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My Father gave me a bunny to rare and take care of until time came to butcher him. I had goats , pigs, chicken , an ostrich :D a Horse and anything you can think of inbetween, Life on the farm can seem cruel to some but I wish I could live that way once more
 
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