Lets talk about re amending

myke

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re amending = top dressing
the only reason i don't like organics is that it's hard to adress an issue right now by top dressing...by the time stuff breaks down and becomes usable, i'm in the middle of my next plant
Yeah ea amendment has a different time frame,Ive been lucky so far but about to cycle again and have no idea if Im getting out of balance.
 

green_machine_two9er

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Have done some slurry tests for ph. Seem to be about 6.5
Honestly my first guess when seeing your pics was slightly Fe deficient. Iron is an undervalued micro and easy to overlook as we are always looking at ca and mg. But Fe def can just cause slightest yellowing or light greening of the whole plant and plays a vital
Role
 

myke

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Honestly my first guess when seeing your pics was slightly Fe deficient. Iron is an undervalued micro and easy to overlook as we are always looking at ca and mg. But Fe def can just cause slightest yellowing or light greening of the whole plant and plays a vital
Role
Water report says .010 mg/l of iron.
 

myke

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Honestly my first guess when seeing your pics was slightly Fe deficient. Iron is an undervalued micro and easy to overlook as we are always looking at ca and mg. But Fe def can just cause slightest yellowing or light greening of the whole plant and plays a vital
Role
So perhaps a sprinkle of blood meal? Extra N as a bonus.
 

green_machine_two9er

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So my basic understanding is limited but That’s seems quite low. Maybe just a simple thrive alive ( green one) with iron would help. At least won’t hurt and potentially see some darker green healthiler color. At least rule it out that way
 

green_machine_two9er

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So perhaps a sprinkle of blood meal? Extra N as a bonus.
Wouldn’t use blood meal, wiggle worm castings also has water Soluable iron. Thrive alive. Even ( don’t judge me) big bloom has limited N but iron. I would personally use extra casting even just seaped or bubbled and watered in. With a bit of thrive alive
 

CaseyQuinn

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Careful! Too much of a good thing is bad! That’s way more toodress than I would use.
My rule of thumb is two dressings per cycle. Once pre flower @ 1 teas/ gallon.
Once again during flower stretch.
At each top dress 1/2 inch of castings over top.
Many times as organic cultivators we think doing something weekly or on a schedule is needed. IMO just keeping a baseline availability of npk and focus on soil structure/ biology/ and watering practice is where the golden ticket is. Remembering to water EVERYDAY is key to microherds ability to process raw elements into plant food. The water is life. Or gas for the tank. We get a lot farther and better mileage if tank is kept full. Running it down to E and restarting is starving plants of vital elements when the plant wants them.
Hey Greeny. How big of containers do you grow in? If you dont mind me asking. You got me thinking about the water everyday thing. I'm currently doing 15 gallon pots. Or in another tent I have two 10's. I water every other day currently. About 2 gallons every two days. My thoughts were I didn't want to keep it too wet. But moist. So you would reccomend like a gallon a day instead? Trying to keep the microbobial life thriving as well as possible. Thx. For the feedback man.
 

CaseyQuinn

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Hey Greeny. How big of containers do you grow in? If you dont mind me asking. You got me thinking about the water everyday thing. I'm currently doing 15 gallon pots. Or in another tent I have two 10's. I water every other day currently. About 2 gallons every two days. My thoughts were I didn't want to keep it too wet. But moist. So you would reccomend like a gallon a day instead? Trying to keep the microbobial life thriving as well as possible. Thx. For the feedback man.
Well.. currently gallons every other day in the 15's. *The 10's I do less. Generally water 5 to 10 percent of the container size I rekkon.
 

green_machine_two9er

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Hey Greeny. How big of containers do you grow in? If you dont mind me asking. You got me thinking about the water everyday thing. I'm currently doing 15 gallon pots. Or in another tent I have two 10's. I water every other day currently. About 2 gallons every two days. My thoughts were I didn't want to keep it too wet. But moist. So you would reccomend like a gallon a day instead? Trying to keep the microbobial life thriving as well as possible. Thx. For the feedback man.
Your on the right track. I use #7 nursery pots. For a quick vegging clones.2-3 week veg.
Honestly it’s a practice and water volume needs change drastically throughout plant life.

5% by volume per day for a fully flowering plant is pretty common but there’s a bell curve to it.

runoff is a good peice of information. If you get runoff right away the soil is typically too dry. Soil has become hydrophobic due to microbes waxy cyst created during times of drought. If the catch trays have runoff say hours after watering snd it doesn’t wick back in then slightly over watered. Finding the just right level is somewhere in between
 

CaseyQuinn

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Your on the right track. I use #7 nursery pots. For a quick vegging clones.2-3 week veg.
Honestly it’s a practice and water volume needs change drastically throughout plant life.

5% by volume per day for a fully flowering plant is pretty common but there’s a bell curve to it.

runoff is a good peice of information. If you get runoff right away the soil is typically too dry. Soil has become hydrophobic due to microbes waxy cyst created during times of drought. If the catch trays have runoff say hours after watering snd it doesn’t wick back in then slightly over watered. Finding the just right level is somewhere in between
Right on man. I'm with ya. Yea. The 2 gallon thing is usually during mid/late flower. Thx. For the advice.
 

madvillian420

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i like to reuse soil, but not necessarily "no till". I empty the pots into a giant tote, remove the biggest chunk of leftover roots and add plenty of EWC. and as of a couple months ago i also add Buildasoil craft blend, and spray that with water and cover for a few days.

I chatted with the owner of buildasoil at a convention last year and he said the craft blend is specifically formulated for re-amending, if you top soil with it and spray and cover it, youll have visible mycelium within days.

 

CaseyQuinn

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Your on the right track. I use #7 nursery pots. For a quick vegging clones.2-3 week veg.
Honestly it’s a practice and water volume needs change drastically throughout plant life.

5% by volume per day for a fully flowering plant is pretty common but there’s a bell curve to it.

runoff is a good peice of information. If you get runoff right away the soil is typically too dry. Soil has become hydrophobic due to microbes waxy cyst created during times of drought. If the catch trays have runoff say hours after watering snd it doesn’t wick back in then slightly over watered. Finding the just right level is somewhere in between
Right on. I'm with ya. Cheers!
 

myke

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i like to reuse soil, but not necessarily "no till". I empty the pots into a giant tote, remove the biggest chunk of leftover roots and add plenty of EWC. and as of a couple months ago i also add Buildasoil craft blend, and spray that with water and cover for a few days.

I chatted with the owner of buildasoil at a convention last year and he said the craft blend is specifically formulated for re-amending, if you top soil with it and spray and cover it, youll have visible mycelium within days.

What do you add back, like amount wise? ....cups per cuft...
 
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