Let's go catch some Asteroids and put them in orbit around the Moon (2019)

heckler73

heckler73

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Yup...That is what NASA wants to do. This is some mind-blowing effort they are going to try and pull-off.
Now will the Republican dominated Congress and Senate say "Yes"?
There's the rub...The plan is for 3 years (let's call it 4, because that's how things really go), but any delay in approval will just set it all back.
I want to see this happen in my lifetime...

 
insidagain

insidagain

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heckler73 said:
Yup...That is what NASA wants to do. This is some mind-blowing effort they are going to try and pull-off.
Now will the Republican dominated Congress and Senate say "Yes"?
There's the rub...The plan is for 3 years (let's call it 4, because that's how things really go), but any delay in approval will just set it all back.
I want to see this happen in my lifetime...

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I think they just wanna create traffic for chinese astronauts.
 
Doer

Doer

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Gravity Tug.

If we can master that we are a Class 2 civilization.

Robert L Forward, Dragon's Egg is about a rogue neutron star, that passes within 1 light year of Earth, Galactic north of the sun.

In this book are fascinating details from Hard Physics, Doctor Forward, that describe what can be done with masses to visit and observe this star with a human crew from a 20 mile orbit that completes every 1/10 of a second. 6 Compensating masses of very large proportions orbit the life support capsule a 50 meters, to keep the mush brains from squashing. If we can even begin to do this for real, the entire Solar system can be re-mapped just for us. Class 2.

We are almost Class 1, already, but not quite yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
 
heckler73

heckler73

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Doer said:
Gravity Tug.

If we can master that we are a Class 2 civilization.

Robert L Forward, Dragon's Egg is about a rogue neutron star, that passes within 1 light year of Earth, Galactic north of the sun.

In this book are fascinating details from Hard Physics, Doctor Forward, that describe what can be done with masses to visit and observe this star with a human crew from a 20 mile orbit that completes every 1/10 of a second. 6 Compensating masses of very large proportions orbit the life support capsule a 50 meters, to keep the mush brains from squashing. If we can even begin to do this for real, the entire Solar system can be re-mapped just for us. Class 2.

We are almost Class 1, already, but not quite yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
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100ms orbit? :lol:
That sounds insane, but luckily I don't think we'll be seeing neutron stars (if they exist) anytime soon within 10AU. I'd also be concerned with the X-rays coming off one of those at such a close range.
 
Doer

Doer

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heckler73 said:
100ms orbit? :lol:
That sounds insane, but luckily I don't think we'll be seeing neutron stars (if they exist) anytime soon within 10AU. I'd also be concerned with the X-rays coming off one of those at such a close range.
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That is the entire point. No one thought you could be seeing anything until Professor Hubble looked up into the "hole" and found the galaxy filed universe. We know now, that neutron stars are routinely ejected from binary star systems. And this ejection can easily approach 5% C velocity.

My god, man, there could be one heading here right now. Yes?

The story, btw, is about the life forms they found there. The x-ray shielding for the human life, inner cell, was water. 100 ms orbits?

It is all relative and simple calculus, is it not? :) The part I really am referring to is how they got the life cell, down into the orbit without mishap with the compensator masses ready for the 100 ms orbits. That took years and robotic gravity tugs, anti-matter, super-matter, etc.

I just read those parts again last year.
 
heckler73

heckler73

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Doer said:
That is the entire point. No one thought you could be seeing anything until Professor Hubble looked up into the "hole" and found the galaxy filed universe. We know now, that neutron stars are routinely ejected from binary star systems. And this ejection can easily approach 5% C velocity.

My god, man, there could be one heading here right now. Yes?
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I suppose that could be possible, but the magnetic field associated with them are orders of magnitude larger than ours. I'm just wondering what kind of electrical effect would result from something approaching the Earth. Doppler effects, etc. I presume it would have a pronounced emission spectrum distinguishing it from the general cosmos, like cops' lights blazing through a foggy night, amidst the dull, orange glow of Sodium bulbs peppered throughout one's field of view.

The story, btw, is about the life forms they found there. The x-ray shielding for the human life, inner cell, was water. 100 ms orbits?

It is all relative and simple calculus, is it not? :) The part I really am referring to is how they got the life cell, down into the orbit without mishap with the compensator masses ready for the 100 ms orbits. That took years and robotic gravity tugs, anti-matter, super-matter, etc.

I just read those parts again last year.
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Simple calculus? :lol:
I suspect there is a lot of symmetry in Forward's plan, too. That would not be a cakewalk; however,I tend to fall into mathochism anyway. So I can't say I'm able to see simplicity immediately. I'd need to work it out and try to collect, substitute and cancel terms along the way.
But that's part of the fun, right? :lol:
 
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