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Magic Beanstalk

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I have a grow half way thru flowering on a different forum with 2 180w advanced LEDs. Just google "magic beans flo n gro" and itll pop up. These lights are great. A fellow journaler who was already mentioned here did a test to compare 3 of advanced led lights but what wasnt mentioned was in a previous grow using the 180w advanced, he got just over 1g/w which is incredible for LEDs. Not many even get that with HPS. LED technology is advancing trust that. No its not at the point where 180w can beat a 400hps but it is nearing upon us. The next diamond series lights are even better. Ill probably start a journal here at rollitup in a month or so showing a 180w advanced and 200w diamond series in action. Results talk. Dont skimp on researching...
 
puffenuff

puffenuff

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Right on, I hadn't heard about the 1g/watt with the advanced 180w. I got like .6 of solid nugs last time, more if you count smal fluffy nugs that I used for butter. Hope you start a journal here, i'll be running my 180 with the new 200w diamond series as well so it would be nice to have something to compare with.
 
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joey2011

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Im currently building a full CREE led light XP - E Power, with all the latest mods. Q5 chips. The light will be able to run on 50% to maximize led penetration. The cooler they run the beter they work in relation . 50%, and 100% are the options. A friend has been testing the units, he is pulling around 90-100g from 60w draw ( Each led chip runs at 2.2 true wattage ). the CREE chips run at 2.1v giving out 53 lumuns, compared to a cheaper chip they will run at 2.9v giving around 40 lumuns making the CREE two times as efficient. The lights wont be cheap but will get the job done.
 
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puffenuff

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joey2011 said:
Im currently building a full CREE led light XP - E Power, with all the latest mods. Q5 chips. The light will be able to run on 50% to maximize led penetration. The cooler they run the beter they work in relation . 50%, and 100% are the options. A friend has been testing the units, he is pulling around 90-100g from 60w draw ( Each led chip runs at 2.2 true wattage ). the CREE chips run at 2.1v giving out 53 lumuns, compared to a cheaper chip they will run at 2.9v giving around 40 lumuns making the CREE two times as efficient. The lights wont be cheap but will get the job done.
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90-100g off 60w is impressive. I'm assuming thats dry weight too right? I'd be interested in learning more about this light of yours.
 
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joey2011

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puffenuff said:
90-100g off 60w is impressive. I'm assuming thats dry weight too right? I'd be interested in learning more about this light of yours.
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It is dry weight yes, the last yield totaled 93g dry weight. The technology of CREE xp - e is becoming very advanced. I want to make these units available to others but i need to see the interest. Im trying to focus on the blue spectrum during veg to promote bushiness and and reduce the stretching, the red to blue ratio is mostly red focused during flowering of course giving maximum flower power.
 
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puffenuff

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joey2011 said:
It is dry weight yes, the last yield totaled 93g dry weight. The technology of CREE xp - e is becoming very advanced. I want to make these units available to others but i need to see the interest. Im trying to focus on the blue spectrum during veg to promote bushiness and and reduce the stretching, the red to blue ratio is mostly red focused during flowering of course giving maximum flower power.
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What coverage area canyou cover with this 60w light? And how many plants are you getting this type of yield off of? Do you have any photos of the grows or even of the light itself?
 
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joey2011

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The lights are built up of around 120w worth of CREE led, but are being run at 50% therefore 60w is the true wattage. The heat to power ratio makes the chips penetrate better producing better results. Around 3 by 3 would be the coverage and the number of plants can be from only 5 to 15, depends how you grow. 5 plants will fill the space up being separated the same way 15 will. Thanks
 
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puffenuff

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joey2011 said:
The lights are built up of around 120w worth of CREE led, but are being run at 50% therefore 60w is the true wattage. The heat to power ratio makes the chips penetrate better producing better results. Around 3 by 3 would be the coverage and the number of plants can be from only 5 to 15, depends how you grow. 5 plants will fill the space up being separated the same way 15 will. Thanks
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All sounds very promising. Like I said, id be interested in seeing what these low wattage lights can really do.
 
curly604

curly604

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sounds promising but pricing is a huge factor bro, if you got a 60w light that can pull 100g's dry thats great but if it costs 1000$ you could just go grab a 290w model or a 180w model or maybe two for a good deal and crush your 100 g's but i dont know what your pricing is gonna look like but if its not less than 500 shipped then it wont be practical. maybe look at higher wattage panels with your setup but again price goes up, im aware that the market needs demand before companies can bring down there prices but there are so many "good enough" panels out there that are drastically dropping in price so on that note i wish you good luck my friend cheers.
 
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joey2011

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curly604 said:
sounds promising but pricing is a huge factor bro, if you got a 60w light that can pull 100g's dry thats great but if it costs 1000$ you could just go grab a 290w model or a 180w model or maybe two for a good deal and crush your 100 g's but i dont know what your pricing is gonna look like but if its not less than 500 shipped then it wont be practical. maybe look at higher wattage panels with your setup but again price goes up, im aware that the market needs demand before companies can bring down there prices but there are so many "good enough" panels out there that are drastically dropping in price so on that note i wish you good luck my friend cheers.
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I agree, the price mark will be expensive due to the quality of product. The ex-spence of the CREE technology will reflect the price of the lights. They will be in the range of around 500. The units are run at 50%, being alot more efficient in relation to electric and the out-put. This is what CREE can offer, running at 50% power and giving off 55 lumuns per.

Puff, i do have images of the lights in auction but they wont be the finished product however the same source of light.
 
outlander1

outlander1

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Just thought I would share and show everyone my Master Kush grown completely under LED, 2 weeks into veg.



The photo sucks, it's from my iPhone. It's really, really bushy. It's a struggle just to be able to dig my way to the stem.
She was just FIMed at the time of the photo.
 
Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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outlander1 said:
Just thought I would share and show everyone my Master Kush grown completely under LED, 2 weeks into veg.



The photo sucks, it's from my iPhone. It's really, really bushy. It's a struggle just to be able to dig my way to the stem.
She was just FIMed at the time of the photo.
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Looks like you have some nice, tight nodes on there, nice job.
Keep up the good work and good luck with your grow.
 
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curly604

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[video=youtube;tkgcEhJu2do]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkgcEhJu2do[/video]here's the girls at day 63 lokking pretty good. first run hydro first run led not to bad in my opinion i straight up thought they were gonna die in the earlier weeks.
 
espoker19

espoker19

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silverthorn said:
Hi all

I've been following this thread for a little while now, nice to find so many other LED enthusiasts out there.

I have been an LED grower/enthusiast for a few years now. I have bought a few lights from some of the LED grow light companies mentioned, but I have never been that happy with the results considering some of the prices I have paid...

I have been building my own grow lights for the past 2 years and have had some great results.

I have made a couple of "breakthroughs" in regards to spectrum/light intensity etc.

I am now in the process of designing my own type of LED grow light, which will be on the market in January 2012.

I have been designing my light to the following criteria:

-High-Performance in terms of PAR
-Practical
-Optimal spectrum for plant growth (in terms of light used by cannabis, not all green leaved plants like many other grow light companies, the data that alot of them use, is quite old and holds no real bearing to cannabis's preferred spectrum)

And finally affordability (something I have really been working on. Some of the prices I have seen advertised for other grow lights are absurd)

My question to you guys is this....

What do you most want to see in an led grow light, what are the biggest factors that come into play for you, when deciding what grow light you choose?

If this post has no place in this thread, then by all means do not reply or delete if necessary.

I am an honest grower who has a major interest in growing with LED's. I want to build a decent light that hopefully will become popular through how it performs...without using some of the misleading marketing hype that I have seen used all too often.
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I would like to see an led with a dilable spectrum (like magnums but more fine tunable)
It should have some UVB leds that you can turn on and off with a switch so during budding u can switch em on to help thc production.
It should have a footprint of at least 4' X 4' and a canopy penetration equal to a 600 watt HPS
It should use less than 450 watts actual power draw.
Should use a mix of lenses, 60 degree along edges, 90 degrees. In middle and 120 degrees in center.
Should be a 7 band spectrum to include cholorphyll a and b peaks, some uvb and some far red to reduce darkness time (730nm)
Use a mix of 1 watt and 3 watt chips.
Have some amber leds too for carotene
Should remain below 85F exhaust air from light.
Lastly, it should have swappable modules and an efficient power driver with built in surge protection
I would pay $1600 or more depending on actual wattage....
 
puffenuff

puffenuff

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The Diamond Series from Advanced is now available via their website. Prices are very reasonable compared to their extreme flower series. Maybe we'll se sinew price adjustments on those down the road? Either way, still glad I got locked into the promo prices for ordering early.
 
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joey2011

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puffenuff said:
The Diamond Series from Advanced is now available via their website. Prices are very reasonable compared to their extreme flower series. Maybe we'll se sinew price adjustments on those down the road? Either way, still glad I got locked into the promo prices for ordering early.
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In regaurds to the full CREE led units, i have done the math of when i will sell the units they will be near on 750$ but thats for a 180w true wattage fully CREE unit.
 
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Magic Beanstalk

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joey2011 said:
In regaurds to the full CREE led units, i have done the math of when i will sell the units they will be near on 750$ but thats for a 180w true wattage fully CREE unit.
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You know, 120w over a 3x3 area really seems like a stretch. I just dont imagine 120w much less 60w doing much work. But whats this 180w youre talking about now? I dont mean to bash in any way. I am, however, interested in seeing if these lights can perform. Given the situation i wouldnt buy a 180w light for $750 and i think it will be tough to sell at that price unless you can prove that this 180w light will blowyour 3x3 footprint away. If anything id look into sponsoring some lights for grow journal deals so experienced growers in the forums can take them for test grows and you can get people viewing your evidence that these lights are the real deal. But unless that 180w can yield me a half pound with a decent/good strain or around 1.2 g/w which is very reasonable for that $750 ticket, i wouldnt buy it. but i definitely volunteer to do a grow journal using it, whether i keep the light or not to help you out!
 
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