LED/T5 Veg, 400W HPS Flower SCOG Cabinet

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lilmafia513

lilmafia513

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cruzer101 said:

Great news man,

I'll bet they were already rooting but that is a nice thing to say.
Now you got it down you will have as many as you want.

PS I had that crazy colored one too. :wall:
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yup, some did already, but it's neat to do something and see results the next day..LOL!!!
All 10 clones in the dome are now rooted and about to bust at the seams, so i guess it time to get them out of there, maybe this weekend.
 
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Just ended week six of flower, same deal 720ppm pH 6.0







Look like I got my vertical wall working now.


Couple bud shots before the light went on.





The widows look like they want to take longer to finish. I'm not going to wait. I found out what I wanted to know this round. The next batch will be all widows and I am supper cropping them.
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lilmafia513

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nice looking widows cruzer!
Got all the clones done with the help of a heat mat, and moved my 4 WW clones into gro-bags a few days ago. slowly moving the light down to the right height now.
 
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lilmafia513 said:
nice looking widows cruzer!
Got all the clones done with the help of a heat mat, and moved my 4 WW clones into gro-bags a few days ago. slowly moving the light down to the right height now.
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Thanks man, Thing is, the nice ones are the apollo. maybe 2 or 3 widow that are finishing on my time table.

Good to hear you got the cloning thing down. I found out that temp has a lot to do with a plants growth.
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Now I know how far my light can penetrate horizonal. This next batch I want about 2 inches thinner on the right and fill the center and back better. No more extra week with veg nutes. get them to pop a little sooner and keep training them till I see flowers. Maybe this time I will be able to fill the rack.

Going to try something new, I just started supper cropping the keepers. I found if you pinch the stalk when you bend the stem you dont break the outer skin of the trunk. you kind of fold it. After a couple days it starts for the light again but all the small shoots get much more light.

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Most are Widow clones from the current grow. The three others are from seed. Stinky Widow. I am not sure how many I will actually flower. I should take the best four given the size of the last ones but by supper cropping I think these will be smaller. Besides that Im greedy.

Nah, at least six.
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pythiq

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Ahh the sight of pinching like that is so unnerving. Just have to remember these little ladies will take quite the beating and still put out
 
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Dam,

The spider mites are back.

I was trimming some leaf and I saw the speckled look to a few and found them. Mostly on the right side of the cab but they multiply fast while they suck the potency of the buds. So close, I think I am going to just start flushing.a week early and call it a grow.

One good thing, They are different type. These are brown not red type. That means I have killed them before. Or maybe they are just brown this time of year...hum. I have to screen the intake better.
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lilmafia513

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cruzer101 said:
Dam,

The spider mites are back.

I was trimming some leaf and I saw the speckled look to a few and found them. Mostly on the right side of the cab but they multiply fast while they suck the potency of the buds. So close, I think I am going to just start flushing.a week early and call it a grow.

One good thing, They are different type. These are brown not red type. That means I have killed them before. Or maybe they are just brown this time of year...hum. I have to screen the intake better.
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Any way you could post a shot of that leaf? Saw some spots on one of mine, and need to know. The pics i found i could barely see what to look for.
 
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lilmafia513 said:
Any way you could post a shot of that leaf? Saw some spots on one of mine, and need to know. The pics i found i could barely see what to look for.
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Its not easy to spot the dam things. They are pretty small. they live at first under the leaf and suck the juice out and lay eggs. When you look at leaf look for dust.That's what it looks like.

Then look under that leaf. if you see tiny black or brown dots that's them. You can kill them but there eggs hatch in two or three weeks. That's why its such a bitch. you got eight weeks to flower and you get them around the fourth week, kill them but they come back. You don't want to spray when your a couple weeks from harvest so you got to make a choice.

Either you get the buds or they do and you wind up with about 3/4 of your harvest. I said the hell with it. I cut off all the leaf I could find with them on it and threw it away. Then shot them once with safer's spray and the next day water to wash it off. let them go ten days flush and cut.

Actually I just got done. I didn't have enough room for all the buds in my drying boxes this time so I left the widows for now.
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OK things were getting tight so its time to cut. I flushed for the last week. changing water every
two days. by the end of the week I had about 90ppms in the res.







Yea, I got bigger buds this time. Also more of them. This works pretty good.

Heres a shot of the root mass.



My three point watering system works great. Just as I thought the roots would follow the water
and not tangle with each other. I actually removed them one at a time so I could find out if I could
replace plants in a scrog.
Its a pain in the ass but you can do it.





I had too much this time so I cut the apollo and I ended up leaving the Widows for now.
here is a shot.



I would like to let them go for another week. I think I might try something I haven't seen done before.
Plant the new batch while this is still flowering. I could take the tallest plants I have and start them on
the outside and run them across the screen to the other side. That will free up some room down there.
Once I cut the widows I will fill the other four. Im doing eight this time and by pinching the stalks I can keep the size down.

Sounds like a lot of work, Maybe I will just get another box.​
 
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I couldn't control the nutrients by transplanting with the remaining flowering plants The center would need to flush again in another week or so so I found another box and cut them. Well, laundry basket, couldn't find a box tall enough.

Now my flower area is empty. I need to remove the boxes and clean the hydroton, then flush the clean hydroton with nutrients and transplant. Lets see, we got six widows and three stinky widows. I still dont know for sure if the stinkys are female. They sure are robust though. I guess I can put them in the front row just in case.

Anyway this harvest looks like it will be tha largest so far. With what I have learned this last time around I think I will be able to meet it or beat the quanity with better quality bud.​
 
420 4 fun

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I couldn't control the nutrients by transplanting with the remaining flowering plants The center would need to flush again in another week or so so I found another box and cut them. Well, laundry basket, couldn't find a box tall enough.

Now my flower area is empty. I need to remove the boxes and clean the hydroton, then flush the clean hydroton with nutrients and transplant. Lets see, we got six widows and three stinky widows. I still dont know for sure if the stinkys are female. They sure are robust though. I guess I can put them in the front row just in case.

Anyway this harvest looks like it will be tha largest so far. With what I have learned this last time around I think I will be able to meet it or beat the quanity with better quality bud.
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Looks good man!!!

How do you feel in regards to your yield?
Would you do anything different on the next one?
Flip earlier? chop off pieces? train differently?
1 strain only?

TY
G/L with yield, I have my fingers X'ed for ya
 
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420 4 fun said:
Looks good man!!!

How do you feel in regards to your yield?
Would you do anything different on the next one?
Flip earlier? chop off pieces? train differently?
1 strain only?

TY
G/L with yield, I have my fingers X'ed for ya
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Hey 420,

How do you feel in regards to your yield?
It looks like its the largest yet. the stalks and roots were the largest I have seen. The widows were light poisoned during the grow and when I got hit with spider mites they were the least resistant and suffered.

Would you do anything different on the next one?
Yes, Starting with more plants to get more top colas. Taking measures to keep them small. Now I will keep the plants trained closer to the screen through the first month of flower and remove more leaf during the grow to shock them and keep them manageable.

Flip earlier? chop off pieces? train differently?
I am pinching the stalk and bending it. Basically folding it over.

1 strain only?
There is six white widow clones I took from mothers I grew from fem seeds and two stinky Widows I grew from seed but haven't sexed yet. So, two strains of White Widow.
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420 4 fun

420 4 fun

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cruzer101 said:
Hey 420,

How do you feel in regards to your yield?
It looks like its the largest yet. the stalks and roots were the largest I have seen. The widows were light poisoned during the grow and when I got hit with spider mites they were the least resistant and suffered.

Would you do anything different on the next one?
Yes, Starting with more plants to get more top colas. Taking measures to keep them small. Now I will keep the plants trained closer to the screen through the first month of flower and remove more leaf during the grow to shock them and keep them manageable.

Flip earlier? chop off pieces? train differently?
I am pinching the stalk and bending it. Basically folding it over.

1 strain only?
There is six white widow clones I took from mothers I grew from fem seeds and two stinky Widows I grew from seed but haven't sexed yet. So, two strains of White Widow.
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How do you find the training results? ive never done a scrog, but from what i understand, even if you chopped off the main, and if you trained it properly, you could possibly get 6+ main colas, they might be smaller than a pricipal cola, but overall the yield of them combined would be more beneficial towards yield.

From what i see in the pictures, it looks great, and looks like you trained them all perfectly to utilize the light 100%, just looks a little overcrowded.

ttys
 
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I just manicured the buds, Cut them off of the stems and put them into a paper bag to dry better. I noticed some mold on the larger ones and thought it best to get that taken care of quickly. I got about 4 grams of moldy stuff this time.

I'm not sure but I think it was because of two things, First its winter here and there is more humidity in the air where they hang. Second thing is this time the buds and stems were larger and less air passed around the buds. I figure what the hell, I have probably smoked worse weed in the past.

Here is a shot of one of the smaller buds.





Once I get it dry I will have weight for this grow. I blew it though and I'm not sure but I think I mixed up some of the buds. I think it was like 70/30 Apollo. I know I had 4 and 3 but Im talking weight. Widows got light poison and were hit by the bugs.

First time around I labeled the jars Apollo, that weed is OK, Second are labeled Apollo 2 That Shit Rocks!
So I will call this last batch of Apollo Apollo 3 and we got White Widow 1

OK on with the show.

Grow #4: WW2

First, a better shot at the watering system. I run it for ten minutes, twice a day.




There root system looks about like last time. That little bit of hydroton works great.





OK time for the girls to get there chance. I bent them a couple weeks ago and tied them down with wire. I kept them at 500ppm most of the six weeks of vegging, now its time to flower. Starting with about 600ppm fox farm.



Eight White widow females all bent at 8 inches tall and all main stock is under the screen. The four plants on the right are all pointing to the left and on the left they are pointing to the right. Its a hedge right now but I hope they will grow out.



I will give them a few days to settle in and then remove all the lower leaf. This time I tied the screen down in nine places instead of one. I used thicker wire too. This ought to hold them.

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