Leaves turning lime/yellow

Hey this is my first time cloning and two plants from the same mother are starting to fade. I tried to add cal mag to the water to see if that helped but no change.

This is a soil grow using ffof and not adding any feed at the moment. The other plants are looking pretty good.

PH 5.9 - 6.0

One clone seems to be fading from the top down while the other one seems to be fading from the bottom up.

Any suggestions would be great, thank you!

Water !!!!!! Probably no need to ph the water. Just increase.
Those babies look they are hanging in for dear life and they just need some moisture. Maybe toodress with earth worm castings to really green up fast. No ph adjust needed for little babies in ocean forest

green_machine_two9er said:

Water !!!!!! Probably no need to ph the water. Just increase.
Those babies look they are hanging in for dear life and they just need some moisture. Maybe toodress with earth worm castings to really green up fast. No ph adjust needed for little babies in ocean forest

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The PH of my base water is 8.3 is that ok?

GanjaDudeLV said:

The PH of my base water is 8.3 is that ok?

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Well water? Or are you filtering?

If you're fussing around with pH do it right. Aim at 6.5 for soil.

Yes but if your really doing it right you would be using a soil ph meter to monitor at the soil level, not the water…….

most soils are pre buffered. Liming agents are used to keep balance. In soil microbes snd the plant itself actually regulate ph. By dumping phosphoric acid on soil the microbial life is destroyed, thus interrupting plant health and food source. Not doing a thing for you.

most people struggle with dirt growing is the fear of overwatering snd the fear of wrong ph water.

IMO: if the water ph is near 8 still ok really. Better than adjusting water. But one might think about a different filter to bring h2o back to more acceptable ranges. Usually we overfilter, stripping all minerals from the water which actually is what’s responsible fordifferent ph ranges.

also ph of soil is highly affected by soil moisture. Underwatering causes more fungal dom soil which raises ph. Well saturated soils with will be lower naturally with bacterial dominated microbes.

this is an acclimation of experience mainly. Snd for anyone curious my ph is general 8.1 h2o. Somehow magically my medium/soil is always 6.5-7. And even more magically is the fact that my vegging plants maintain 6.8-7 and the very week I flip to flower the containers drop to 6.5. Why??? Cause the microbes dictate ph. The plant knows it needs more P snd K and that those elements are available at slightly lower ph. Plant root exudates attract specific bacteria and fungi to accommodate the change in nutrient demand. Fucking magic. End rant

green_machine_two9er said:

Well water? Or are you filtering?

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Well water with no filter.

I guess my PH is way too low then that I have been feeding. I was very concerned with over watering but looks like im probably under doing it. I will give them a good water now and leave the PH at a higher level.

Thanks for the advice all

GanjaDudeLV said:

Well water with no filter.

I guess my PH is way too low then that I have been feeding. I was very concerned with over watering but looks like im probably under doing it. I will give them a good water now and leave the PH at a higher level.

Thanks for the advice all

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Good luck. And remember my advice is geared to soil fed grows. If you start feeding bottles nutes the nutrient solution itself should always be check and balanced.

green_machine_two9er said:

Good luck. And remember my advice is geared to soil fed grows. If you start feeding bottles nutes the nutrient solution itself should always be check and balanced.

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What do you do when they need feed if your not using bottle nutes? From what I read ffof is good until you flip to flower, are you just top dressing? This is my 2nd grow and first time using soil so still in learning phase

GanjaDudeLV said:

Well water with no filter.

I guess my PH is way too low then that I have been feeding. I was very concerned with over watering but looks like im probably under doing it. I will give them a good water now and leave the PH at a higher level.

Thanks for the advice all

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There's a bunch of different versions out there, but you might want to take a look at one of the charts showing what nutrients get taken up at what ph levels. 7 is good in soil, 6 in coco. I try and swing my ph levels around to get more uptake, not sure if you can really do that in soil as easily as coco.

GanjaDudeLV said:

What do you do when they need feed if your not using bottle nutes? From what I read ffof is good until you flip to flower, are you just top dressing? This is my 2nd grow and first time using soil so still in learning phase

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You can amend a bagged soil lightly with castings/ perlite and extra amendments to make a simple “super soil” with top dressing lightly throughout grow.
Or you can mix a soil from scratch that can last grow after grow and continues to get better and better with no need for bottled fed. If can steer you in the right direction if that’s something your interested in

green_machine_two9er said:

You can amend a bagged soil lightly with castings/ perlite and extra amendments to make a simple “super soil” with top dressing lightly throughout grow.
Or you can mix a soil from scratch that can last grow after grow and continues to get better and better with no need for bottled fed. If can steer you in the right direction if that’s something your interested in

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Dude that sounds amazing any info on it would be great.

GanjaDudeLV said:

Dude that sounds amazing any info on it would be great.

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Check out my sticky thread Mars hydro 5x5. I just put my recipe there I’ll tag ya. Happy growing.

green_machine_two9er said:

Water !!!!!! Probably no need to ph the water. Just increase.
Those babies look they are hanging in for dear life and they just need some moisture. Maybe toodress with earth worm castings to really green up fast. No ph adjust needed for little babies in ocean forest

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After following your suggestions the plant doesn't seem to be getting better. Any other ideas? 2 clones from same mother acting very similar but 5 other clones are fine that came from same strain different mother.

GanjaDudeLV said:

After following your suggestions the plant doesn't seem to be getting better. Any other ideas? 2 clones from same mother acting very similar but 5 other clones are fine that came from same strain different mother.

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Sometimes the Health of a clone depends on health if their mothers.
I would too dress with earth worm castings. Just a tiny bit.

green_machine_two9er said:

Sometimes the Health of a clone depends on health if their mothers.
I would too dress with earth worm castings. Just a tiny bit.

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Ok ill give it a dressing. The mother was in good shape when I took the clone but ill keep it going and see

GanjaDudeLV said:

Ok ill give it a dressing. The mother was in good shape when I took the clone but ill keep it going and see

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It looks better than the first time I saw it. She just looks slightly hungry. And maybe locked up a bit. Ewc will address both options at same time.

Is this clone rooted?

myke said:

Is this clone rooted?

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Yeah lots of roots and new growth. I'm still pretty new but the roots looked fine to me but im clueless

GanjaDudeLV said:

Yeah lots of roots and new growth. I'm still pretty new but the roots looked fine to me but im clueless

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As said needs food,transplant time.