leaves midway and lower yellowing 9th week

Is this normal yellowing?
Or did i burn them. I went from 5ml bloom to 0-4ml-10ml. Did i burn them? Ppm was only 650
Before that like 450. Also will the buds get fatter?
Hows my yeild looking on these two? 600W

I know that this is normal in late flower but midway up?

They do look a little burned but also could be nutrient lockout. Maybe your PH might be off? The buds should fatten up more. Most of the time they swell up the last few weeks before harvest.

v1sual said:

They do look a little burned but also could be nutrient lockout. Maybe your PH might be off? The buds should fatten up more. Most of the time they swell up the last few weeks before harvest.

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Last i checked it was at 7.
Idk how to modify it I always water with 6.5
Im using ffhf. Ive had a small lockout in the past after i gave them too much N going into week 5 or 6.
Think i should do a flush tomorrow? I fed wednsday. The green crack took the worst of it. Ive also started giving them a dinner spoon sized scoop of unsulfated molasses

How far from harvest u think? I was thinking week 11

What and how much have you fed them?

whitebb2727 said:

What and how much have you fed them?

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Gh flora performance pack 3/4 strength until last feed I jacked bloom notes to 10ml and went full strength with the rest, ppm was 650 last feed.

Here's the chart I have
The picture in the previous post IS NOT the chart I have.

BionicΩChronic said:

Gh flora performance pack 3/4 strength until last feed I jacked bloom notes to 10ml and went full strength with the rest, ppm was 650 last feed.

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Too much. Its burnt.

Do you water to the point of run off? How much run off? Do you water, feed, water, feed, water? Or feed with every watering?

Slight nute burn but all in all that yellowing this late is normal.
I have had a narco purps turn yellow from day 52 onwards,
And a vision seeds auto nl start yellowing from day like 40, turning into a beautiful 83 day old plant that was phat as!
All strains differ, but you seem to acknowledge your problems as they arise, so you should be right.

whitebb2727 said:

Too much. Its burnt.

Do you water to the point of run off? How much run off? Do you water, feed, water, feed, water? Or feed with every watering?

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I give it them 1gallon each. And yes feed water feed etc. Not sure how much runoff... probably 1/4th gal

bubblenut said:

Slight nute burn but all in all that yellowing this late is normal.
I have had a narco purps turn yellow from day 52 onwards,
And a vision seeds auto nl start yellowing from day like 40, turning into a beautiful 83 day old plant that was phat as!
All strains differ, but you seem to acknowledge your problems as they arise, so you should be right.

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I hope so. The slight burn will it affect my yield much? When should I start to flush?

bubblenut said:

Slight nute burn but all in all that yellowing this late is normal.
I have had a narco purps turn yellow from day 52 onwards,
And a vision seeds auto nl start yellowing from day like 40, turning into a beautiful 83 day old plant that was phat as!
All strains differ, but you seem to acknowledge your problems as they arise, so you should be right.

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Yellow is OK in flower. I've had yellow leaves that live for a couple weeks. Lime trees that change color in the fall.

That just don't look like normal yellow.

It looks rough. The op would be better off figuring out why it looks so rough instead of just accepting that yellow is normal.

They should be pretty healthy looking right up until the end. The fading should really be that last couple weeks.

The last two pics, those are not that far into flowering.

There is the issue of nutes burn but there is something else going on.

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I give it them 1gallon each. And yes feed water feed etc. Not sure how much runoff... probably 1/4th gal

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I don't think the molasses will do much with synthetics.

Is that happy frog soil based or coco? I don't remember which is which.

I tend to use way less than recommended when using hydro nutes in soil.

Those outside? Have you checked for pest in the soil. Any root problems or pest around the base?

How often are you giving them water?

whitebb2727 said:

I don't think the molasses will do much with synthetics.

Is that happy frog soil based or coco? I don't remember which is which.

I tend to use way less than recommended when using hydro nutes in soil.

Those outside? Have you checked for pest in the soil. Any root problems or pest around the base?

How often are you giving them water?

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Ffhf is soil based. Indoors, no pests.
I have been giving them 6.5 water but ph runoff is like 7.0 Idk how to get it down.
The yellowing I'm experiencing is very DRY and crinkley feeling. Some crumble up in my hand.
I gave them straight water today to try and help out some. I water twice a week. Temp is 85f max

Those last two pics are of green crack. She's the smallest and I gave her like 10ML bloom and 2.5ML of liquid kool bloom with 4ML micro

BionicΩChronic said:

Ffhf is soil based. Indoors, no pests.
I have been giving them 6.5 water but ph runoff is like 7.0 Idk how to get it down.
The yellowing I'm experiencing is very DRY and crinkley feeling. Some crumble up in my hand.
I gave them straight water today to try and help out some. I water twice a week. Temp is 85f max

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Yellowing and leaves that dry up and crinkle is a sign of P deficiency. I would think that would be covered with the bloom.

Run off pH doesn't mean anything. Take a small sample of your soil. Let it dry then mix with an equal part distilled water then check pH. That is how to check soil pH.

Are those five gallon buckets? If so you would need to water more even with the nutrients.

It would be better to water less frequent but with more volume. If they need it that often its OK but start watering more in the future when using synthetics. It helps prevent salt buildup which can lead to lockouts.

I say the damage is done this run. Practice better watering techniques in the future.

If using fox farm soils you might be better off just going water only. Start amending your soils so you don't have to use synthetics. With a living soil you don't have to water to the point of so much runoff.

This is water only.
One of the upsides of no till is your soil gets even better with time.

This is a good read. A living soil let's the plant take what it wants when it needs it.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

whitebb2727 said:

Yellowing and leaves that dry up and crinkle is a sign of P deficiency. I would think that would be covered with the bloom.

Run off pH doesn't mean anything. Take a small sample of your soil. Let it dry then mix with an equal part distilled water then check pH. That is how to check soil pH.

Are those five gallon buckets? If so you would need to water more even with the nutrients.

It would be better to water less frequent but with more volume. If they need it that often its OK but start watering more in the future when using synthetics. It helps prevent salt buildup which can lead to lockouts.

I say the damage is done this run. Practice better watering techniques in the future.

If using fox farm soils you might be better off just going water only. Start amending your soils so you don't have to use synthetics. With a living soil you don't have to water to the point of so much runoff.

This is water only.
View attachment 3675927One of the upsides of no till is your soil gets even better with time.

This is a good read. A living soil let's the plant take what it wants when it needs it.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

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What should I do from now on with this batch? What should my target ppm be? I'm gonna probably go ahead and flush the purple one for two weeks. Probably give GC 1 more feed then flush.
What is your ppm usually using hydro nutes in soils
They are 5 gal. What do u mean more evenly with nutes? They get 1 gal each.
Do u mean pour it evenly on surface
Thanks for all the helpful advice

I'm deff going super soil in future

BionicΩChronic said:

What should I do from now on with this batch? What should my target ppm be? I'm gonna probably go ahead and flush the purple one for two weeks. Probably give GC 1 more feed then flush.
What is your ppm usually using hydro nutes in soils
They are 5 gal. What do u mean more evenly with nutes? They get 1 gal each.
Do u mean pour it evenly on surface
Thanks for all the helpful advice

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I use synthetics very little. Your ppms don't sound to off. I've heard of people running. 1,000 or more on ppms.

In the past for dissolving nutrients I went by weight. Liquid like yours I used medicine syringes to measure accurately. I would use 1/4 to 1/2 strength. Rarely full strength.

I use no till organic for my pot and vegetable garden now.

About the only thing I use synthetics for anymore are house plants that are in water and soil and outdoor flower beds.

BionicΩChronic said:

I'm deff going super soil in future

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Fox farm would make a good base. Add a little lime or oyster shell flour. Add some "down to earth" all purpose. It has kelp, alfalfa, feather meal, and other common dry amendments in one box. Worm castings and compost.

Walmart now carries all kinds of different brands of organic stuff now. They sell bags of compost and different manures.

I like espoma garden tone and biotone. The sell others at Walmart. They sell the espoma kelp to.

Some say you can't taste the difference. I can. It comes down to you palate.