Leaf compost???

cjishigh

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I have a local nursery that sells leaf compost by the cubic yard. Would this be suitable for marijuana to grow in??? I would also add perlite/vermiculite. Should I add any other amendments??? Any and all tips welcome. :blsmoke:

P.S they also sell this stuff called orgro. I'm not sure what it is but it come by the cubic yard too.
 

cjishigh

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I'm also trying to find a good organic nutrient that is sold at lowes or home depot. I really dont want to order online. Any ideas the best organic nutrients??? Also the closest hydro shop is like 100 miles away.
 

growone

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i can't answer the leaf compost question, but i am curious myself
for a good organic nute, MG organic bone meal(6-9-0) is actually pretty good
has a nice dose of slow release nitrogen
 

woodsmaneh!

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Leaf compost, is not normally considered a fertilizer as it is too low in nutrient content. It serves primarily as an
organic amendment and a soil conditioner. The nitrogen content of composted leaves on a dry basis is
about 1/2 to 1% by weight. For other materials commonly added to backyard leaf compost piles, the
nitrogen content is: blood meal 10-14%; grass clippings 2-4%; coffee grounds 1 1/2-2%; eggshells 1-2%; horse
manure 1-5%; cow manure 1-1 1/2%; poultry manure 3-5%; ammonium sulfate 20 1/2%; urea 45%; bone
meal 1 1/2-4%; and cotton seed meal 6-7%.

Get some sheep or cow compost and some blood & Bone meal, coco, worm castings.

Peace
 

growone

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^^^ very good post, sounds interesting, i have plenty of trees, and thus plenty of leaves
thin on nitrogen, but that's ok, might be a nice base for a soil, like to make my own stuff when i can
 

DownOnWax

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Leaf compost, is not normally considered a fertilizer as it is too low in nutrient content. It serves primarily as an
organic amendment and a soil conditioner. The nitrogen content of composted leaves on a dry basis is
about 1/2 to 1% by weight. For other materials commonly added to backyard leaf compost piles, the
nitrogen content is: blood meal 10-14%; grass clippings 2-4%; coffee grounds 1 1/2-2%; eggshells 1-2%; horse
manure 1-5%; cow manure 1-1 1/2%; poultry manure 3-5%; ammonium sulfate 20 1/2%; urea 45%; bone
meal 1 1/2-4%; and cotton seed meal 6-7%.

Get some sheep or cow compost and some blood & Bone meal, coco, worm castings.

Peace
Very good comment, it is a soil conditioner.

I collect leaves all fall and dump them in an old dog pen of mine, let it sit for 2 years and add it to my soil. I have a lot of clay in my area and it really helps to break it up but does nothing as far as nutrients.

Its usually called Leaf Humus.
 

Spanishfly

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Leaf humus may not be considered a fertiliser but can be added in quite large amounts to soil. I recycle my soil and leaves are one of the green materials I add to my composter with the soil - my grape vine produces stacks of them.
 

Dinosaur Bone

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Bubbles.. Leaf Compost would be a good amendment just to get some good organic biomass in there. If you can do a windrow compost pile over the fall, winter & early spring, leaf compost and fresh leaves would be a good base. A windrow is a few feet wide and a couple feet high in a row the length of your garden. Layer it like lasagna. "Turn" it ever couple weeks by shoveling it over a piles width over... by the time spring comes you will have shoveled it from one side of the garden to the other, and all the "goodies" will have had a chance to seep into the soil.... the entire garden area gets amended. Its also a good place for the worms to winter over. Especially if you have a few hundred pounds, or better yet a TON of "boutique coffee grounds" {provided by Starbucks, or other boutique coffee purveyor}.

Bat Guano would be a good fertilizer if your ordering stuff in... a pound of guano is easier to carry around than a truckload of cow poo. Also Humic acid... {pure Humus} I suspect that this place >>> http://www.bioag.com/ <<< is the same outfit the big Nute companies order pallet quantities of Humic/fulvic acid from.
 

woodsmaneh!

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[FONT=&quot]Little or no nitrogen will be released from leaf compost[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]for plant use during the season immediately following[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]incorporation into the soil. It is generally necessary to[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]add nitrogen to soils containing compost to prevent the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]compost from &#8220;robbing&#8221; the soil of nitrogen and[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]creating deficiency problems in plants grown in the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]soil. Adding 1 to 1 1/2 lbs. of 10% nitrogen fertilizer[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]to each 100 lbs. (about 3 bushels) of leaf compost is[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]recommended[/FONT]
 

Mazar i Shariff

Active Member
I have a local nursery that sells leaf compost by the cubic yard. Would this be suitable for marijuana to grow in??? I would also add perlite/vermiculite. Should I add any other amendments??? Any and all tips welcome. :blsmoke:

P.S they also sell this stuff called orgro. I'm not sure what it is but it come by the cubic yard too.
You're gonna want to stay away from this form of compost. While it could help, it's nutrient value is not as suitable as other feeds/composts that you could purchase (or make yourself at home???)

My biggest concern, personally, would be that they could spread disease throughout the soil and to my plants

It's up to you, tho!

One love =)
 

madodah

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One important consideration regarding leaf compost offered by vendors is the composition. My county seat city and the county use chemical insecticides on every plant and tree under their jurisdictions. Debris from trimming and loss of leaves by deciduous trees are offered to private entities for their use and resale. Deadly stuff but 90% of the public buyers of those products don't care what happens to their groundwater or environment.
 

cjishigh

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I would buy it from a nursery and its super clean. They also have this stuff called orgro. Not sure what it is and I forgot to ask them when i was there. So if i did get the leaf compost what type of stuff. What could I add to it to make it super rich in nutrients??
 

cjishigh

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I have been usin MG organic garden soil. I would add perlite and vermiculite. The only problem with my mixture is I cant find a really good organic source of nutrients. What could I add that I could get from like walmart, lowes, or home depot? There is a meadows farms nursery and a wentworth nursery I could also go buy from.
 

purpz

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leaf compost is good stuff, just make sure it's well composted & it should be good. I'd also reccomend getting some superthrive( i got mine @ home-depo) to add with whatever fertz you decide to get get.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Leaf compost is about at the bottom of the barrel, as far as food value goes. Good old COMPOSTED Cow and sheep shit are great to grow with, toss in some blood & bone meal, sit back and water......grow with what you got. Just like heating with wood, pine sucks but if all you have is pine it's great.

Peace

[FONT=&quot]Overall, compost improves the physical, chemical,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and biological properties of soils. Leaf compost,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]however, is not normally considered a fertilizer as it is[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]too low in nutrient content. It serves primarily as an[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]organic amendment and a soil conditioner. The[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]nitrogen content of composted leaves on a dry basis is[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]about 1/2 to 1% by weight. For other materials[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]commonly added to backyard leaf compost piles, the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]nitrogen content is: blood meal 10-14%; grass clippings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2-4%; coffee grounds 1 1/2-2%; eggshells 1-2%; horse[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]manure 1-5%; cow manure 1-1 1/2%; poultry manure[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3-5%; ammonium sulfate 20 1/2%; urea 45%; bone[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]meal 1 1/2-4%; and cotton seed meal 6-7%.[/FONT]
 

cjishigh

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Funny you mentioned pine! lol Thats all that grows around here!!! Thanks Every one!!!! I have Plus repped You All!!!
 

madodah

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leaf compost is good stuff, just make sure it's well composted & it should be good. I'd also reccomend getting some superthrive( i got mine @ home-depo) to add with whatever fertz you decide to get get.
Superthrive is banned from sale in Oregon due to pesticide content, so if you're after an organic grow I wouldn't use it.
 
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