Latest legalization status?

mustang519

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I'm in a similar boat, mustang, though I've yet to secure my property. You're fortunate to have been able to purchase land. With all the rules and regs I'll now have to comply with, it looks like I'll have to come up with a friendly rental. Not the easiest thing to find, I might add. I was also thinking of going with a similar setup, 1 veg 2 flower, but now I'm leaning towards a more assembly line setup with multiple stages for the veg and then a single long narrow flower chamber. Now I also plan to keep my numbers down, so my setup will go like this. Everything will be on a 7 day cycle, so every 7 days, each part of the process moves to the next station to make room for the next one coming in. 1 week for cutting to root, 2 weeks in solo cup, then 2 weeks veg in larger container, then off to flower for 9 weeks. Done correctly, with 7 plants in each phase, I should never have more than 98. Harvesting, cloning, transplanting, feeding, trimming, ... all in a days work. I'm shooting for a 1.5-2 lbs/week headed out to a newly licensed retail store near you! And let's not forget the processor side... lots of work to do there, too. Ridiculous that they put that extra step in there to collect more revenue. I'm glad they changed it to the combined producer/processor license and allow a single 25% tax instead of the double that would have been necessary. Hopefully, they will still change some of the other rules, like the ban on hash and extracts being sold without being infused. My attorney seems to believe it will. Anyway, exciting times to be alive!
a rotation would be great. My problem is that I will be running several different strains with different flowering times. I will have to be able to plan a few weeks out to have clones, veg timing, have to adjust for the market... lots of variables but can be managed. Good luck SunJ!
 

SunJ

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Good luck to you as well, mustang! I thought about running as many as 5 strains at first, with 2 dedicated grows each. Over time I decided to just play it safer and keep my numbers down while things play out and with that had to make the call to just choose one. For now. My architectural firm is working on my design concept right now, and I plan to go ahead and construct a facility that will have 4x the capacity of what I will begin with so expansion will be a snap. Meeting with an investor tomorrow about some land... about 200 acres worth in the middle of nowhere... going to go ahead and try to position myself for when outdoor growing becomes allowed. Any chance you'll be going to the conference in Seattle the 26th @ 2?
 

Puma327

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Good luck to you as well, mustang! I thought about running as many as 5 strains at first, with 2 dedicated grows each. Over time I decided to just play it safer and keep my numbers down while things play out and with that had to make the call to just choose one. For now. My architectural firm is working on my design concept right now, and I plan to go ahead and construct a facility that will have 4x the capacity of what I will begin with so expansion will be a snap. Meeting with an investor tomorrow about some land... about 200 acres worth in the middle of nowhere... going to go ahead and try to position myself for when outdoor growing becomes allowed. Any chance you'll be going to the conference in Seattle the 26th @ 2?
Hey SunJ, I haven't heard about this conference. Can you post the details? Thanks! ;-)
 

SunJ

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The attorney's I'm using helped create the cannabis business group, cannabisbusinessgroup.org. They held another seminar some weeks back and a webinar when the initial draft rules came out.
 

silasraven

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well lets see, even with the legal stuffs people still view it as nothing better than a type 1 drug. i had interviews and people from college still causing shit because i smoked weed. but they were all for going to a bar and getting shit faced. perception needs to change. stick to the west side of WA and no one will give two shits. east side still cant come to terms with it.
 

SunJ

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Well, I'm actually interested in the east side, and you'd be surprised how many people are friendly to it here. Now that's not to say that they aren't still nervous about renting under the new law; perhaps that's a remnant of the feds heavy influence in this area from WWII throughout the cold war. Shit, and with all the wineries around here, just give it a little time for the local municipalities to see their extra slice of the cheese wheel and you'll see attitudes change rather quickly.
 

mustang519

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SunJ: I will not be attending. I have too much work to do right now. Still have to get my building finished, then get started on the grow rooms. Good luck, later.
 

SunJ

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Ah, wish I was that busy! Hopefully I will be here in the next couple of weeks. Meeting went well with my investor the other day, and he wants to pull the trigger. He just has to get it past his wife first. But, if that doesn't work out, I have other investors to pitch. But I figure in my 'downtime' I should get myself as educated and prepared as I can.
 

ReefBongwell

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Well it looks like a few things got better... glad to see they eliminated the double 25% tax for growers/producers... big incentive to do both now. Still with all the regulations it seems like many people will just stay medical and skip legal altogether...
 

PurpleBuz

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as far as federal deductions, most people aren't saying that they're a cannabis business when they file their returns for obvious reasons. They take their deductions and there's no problem with that until the IRS figures out what you do and disallows them.
Yes true up to a point, but the IRS is often used by the feds to crackdown on people they don't like or are otherwise squeeky clean.

Biggest problem is that if you have a state license, the FEDS including the IRS will know who you are and how much your producing.
 

TWS

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Yes true up to a point, but the IRS is often used by the feds to crackdown on people they don't like or are otherwise squeeky clean.

Biggest problem is that if you have a state license, the FEDS including the IRS will know who you are and how much your producing.
Al Copone .
 

Grojak

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heres from the seattle pi 5-17-13

See that dumb bitch "scoping" buds? Fucking shit, people, everyone involved in medical... do not handle yo donated buds without gloves... for fuck sake it's medicinal pot, lets keep it contaminate free!!!
 

PurpleBuz

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it seems that $2000 per pound is a reasonable wholesale price. Anything less would require very large volume production to be viable.
The one thing you may be missing from your analysis is the amazing productivity of cannabis if given the space, light and time to grow. Being not artificially restricted by state plant count rules, and creative production oriented growers there is a good chance of a large increase in volume. I can see seasonal flushes from greenhouse grows that don't have the overhead of the SUN. I can easily see doing multiple crops a year in a controlled env greenhouse, the only large overhead expense being trimming labor. Presumably state regulated minimum wage required. Comparison in case is the productivity of MUM growers and the new fangled auto flower varieties now available.
 

silasraven

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well seattle is now pushing a public weed smoking ban, and taxes are higher for weed. seems this legal thing was nothing more then to push pot heads to giving up more cash for less.
 

ReefBongwell

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smoking in public was really never part of the legalization though... never has been legal to do that.

They actually decreased bud taxes if you pay attention to their most recent changes -- they merged the tax on growers and processors for people who have both licenses, so instead of 2x25% tax, it's now just 25% tax IF you hold both the grower and processor license... so they are listening some
 

colonuggs

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See that dumb bitch "scoping" buds? Fucking shit, people, everyone involved in medical... do not handle yo donated buds without gloves... for fuck sake it's medicinal pot, lets keep it contaminate free!!!
you don't know how many people have touched your buds prior to you buying them... the trimmers... the growers.. the retailers.... the budtenders ...the list goes on...some people even peee in the soil for the weed
 
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