lack of bees

SnapsProvolone said:

And Bayer

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and Syngenta

There are over 340 species of bees and bumblebees' native to North America and surprise, honey bee's aren't one of them. Flies also account for over 17% of all pollination that occurs. Throw in butterflies, wasps, moths and others, and we have a bigger picture than just bees.
We are fucking up pollination for other systems as well.

Three things are happening in the bee world, CCD, mites and circuits.

CCD isn't very well understood and has been attempted to be correlated to Neocotinids, but not quite yet.

Mites have also become a rising factor in some cases, imagine being constantly gnawed on throughout the day, this is what the mites do.

3rd and this never gets brought up, is that most commercial pollination in the states is done with bees, travelling bees. There a only a few companies that do the majority of the work, transporting their bee colonies all across the states in pollination season. There is talk of poor inbreeding in queens from these facilities to buffer travel, that escape into wild populations.

If the honeybee goes away from our own stupidity, it will be a keystone event, however, I don't think it is doomsday either.

We still need a clearer picture, blaiming Monsanto's ilk only closes the shutter around the subject we want to frame.

My pops contracted cancer in Vietnam from something called "Operation Shadd' so believe me I aint defending Monsanto, just the opposite in fact.

My advice is to plant bee plants known for attracting them in.

I use mint. Every year I get thousands of bees around my garden with a mint border.

Look up bee and butterfly gardens for ideas.

I self pollinated my peppers.. Simply took finger stuck in flower and repeated process on every single flower... i m not sure if it works for all.. but indoor peppers had over 200 flowers on it and nothing.. till i did that method.. give it try...

I have catmint in my garden at work...there are dozens of bumblebees init every day. Ya know, anything, well, most things in the mint family are insect attractors. Also bee balm, an attractive perennial. Milk weed is another. Flies also pollinate. But don't shit in the garden. Lol. There are many species of flies besides house flies. Some are iridescent blue and beautiful.
I have never triedmhand pollinating my own flowers. It isn't difficult though.

Here are a couple of photos I took a few days ago.....applemint. The honeybees attack the peppermint and the pineapple mint like crazy too.



pineapple mint, applemint and sage all border the garden...


Here is this crazy wasp that was buzzing around with the beez too...

Deusracing said:

I self pollinated my peppers.. Simply took finger stuck in flower and repeated process on every single flower... i m not sure if it works for all.. but indoor peppers had over 200 flowers on it and nothing.. till i did that method.. give it try...

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Someone may have told this story recently, I don't know, but in parts of China the pollinators of peaches aren't alive or around anymore, so people climb up into the trees and pollinate with feathers.

Abiqua said:

Here are a couple of photos I took a few days ago.....applemint. The honeybees attack the peppermint and the pineapple mint like crazy too.

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pineapple mint, applemint and sage all border the garden...

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Here is this crazy wasp that was buzzing around with the beez too...
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Is that the famed "weed mint" I keep hearing about?

Abiqua said:

Here are a couple of photos I took a few days ago.....applemint. The honeybees attack the peppermint and the pineapple mint like crazy too.

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pineapple mint, applemint and sage all border the garden...

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Here is this crazy wasp that was buzzing around with the beez too...
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i`m not sure about the wasp due to the pic, but that bee is on the hit list of most people in the usa it a destructive pest. thats a wood bee or carpenter bee, very hard to kill. i know in my part of the world honey bees aren`t dying with the so called virus, the biggest threat to them are the african killer bee.

thank you everyone for your responses. That is some scary shit for sure. Back in the early spring when my orange tree was in bloom, there were hundreds of them. The tree was buzzing. Now, no honey bees at all, and very few yellowjackets. A good amount of those big black bees that love my hosta flowers, but don't go to the veggies.

I don't think it is too much nitrogen or too heavy with nutes. I use Kellog's soil.

so weird about the chemtrails. I was asking my guy if maybe our area was sprayed or something without our knowing about it. I hope not. Maybe someone in the neighborhood used something that killed them? sigh...

I have torn down all my tomatoes, the cucs, and will probably take down the green beans too if they don't start to produce soon. I can replant with veggies that don't need to be polinated. Can't I?

fumble said:

thank you everyone for your responses. That is some scary shit for sure. Back in the early spring when my orange tree was in bloom, there were hundreds of them. The tree was buzzing. Now, no honey bees at all, and very few yellowjackets. A good amount of those big black bees that love my hosta flowers, but don't go to the veggies.

I don't think it is too much nitrogen or too heavy with nutes. I use Kellog's soil.

so weird about the chemtrails. I was asking my guy if maybe our area was sprayed or something without our knowing about it. I hope not. Maybe someone in the neighborhood used something that killed them? sigh...

I have torn down all my tomatoes, the cucs, and will probably take down the green beans too if they don't start to produce soon. I can replant with veggies that don't need to be polinated. Can't I?

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Can u hand pollinate urself fumble? If u have a small garden it should be ez enough

Yeah, I can give it a try. The green beans are still flowering so I will try on them tomorrow. I am planting sugar snaps and shelling peas next - self pollinators

fumble said:

thank you everyone for your responses. That is some scary shit for sure. Back in the early spring when my orange tree was in bloom, there were hundreds of them. The tree was buzzing. Now, no honey bees at all, and very few yellowjackets. A good amount of those big black bees that love my hosta flowers, but don't go to the veggies.

I don't think it is too much nitrogen or too heavy with nutes. I use Kellog's soil.

so weird about the chemtrails. I was asking my guy if maybe our area was sprayed or something without our knowing about it. I hope not. Maybe someone in the neighborhood used something that killed them? sigh...

I have torn down all my tomatoes, the cucs, and will probably take down the green beans too if they don't start to produce soon. I can replant with veggies that don't need to be polinated. Can't I?

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Just was talking to a neighbor a few days ago about an american linden tree [basswood] that supposedly makes the best honey. I helped them identify it, with an ID guide in the past. Then they read up on it. Well a few days ago he talked about how no yellowjackets were on the thing this year and last year it was infested. Kind of interesting.

I referred to it as the Fukushima effect, since we are on the Left Coast.

Get yourself a little pack of tiny paint brushes, even the ones meant for kids paint-by-numbers setups, they work great for making the pollen rain

good luck

Good time to plant winter root crops and things like carrots and maybe even potatoes. Greens, definitely pea's, even garlic and onions too.

thanks Abiqua I am just gonna have to paint myself some veggies. I do have some rainbow colored carrots and butternut squash to plant. Would also like to get some more potatoes in. I have spinach and broccoli and brussels sprouts too

dannyboy602 said:

Ive watched vids on bees and chem trails, bees and alluminum poisoning from chem trail sprays, bees and pesticide toxicity, bees and UVB and UVC coming in through holes in the ozone and the fact is I just don't know. Science doesn't seem to know definitively, and apiarists can't agree on a cause either. So if these professionals can't agree on a cause I don't know how you or I can either. Perhaps it's all of those reasons or maybe it's none of those reasons. I feel though that we've messed with mother nature so much that no species short of cock roaches can survive the changes we've brought to our ecosystem. We've fucked it all up to put it mildly. And some species are not gonna survive. Its as simple as that.

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yea and we are one of the species that wont .

fumble said:

Is anyone else having trouble getting any fruits or veggies? I have/had tomatoes, cucs, and green beans. The toms were putting out hella flowers, but nothing was happening, they would just dry up and fall off. The tomatoes I did get, were cherry sized instead of the big beefsteak they should have been. I was getting all kinds of cucs, now they have stopped and green beans have lots of flowers, but no little beans starting.

I only use organic products. Nothing harmful. I have noticed a lack of bees though. There were tons of them in the spring, but now I may see one if I am lucky. What happened to my bees?

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Hey fumble. Yes, I've noticed a lack of bees this year. I feel that if it wasn't for the big black carpenter bees. Which I cannot recall having ever seen when I was younger... nothing would have been pollinated in my garden this year. Those carpenter bees put in some real work this year and I'm thankful. I think I'll end up with a shitload of gourds this year

We can't lose the bees! What a shame. I have noticed more and more of those Carpenter Bees too, Wooten. I was thinking about getting a bee hive, but then I would be too damn scared to go near it. Then I saw a Mason Bee house! No need to do anything with it but house individual bees.

http://www.nwf.org/How-to-Help/Garden-for-Wildlife/Gardening-Tips/Build-a-Bee-House.aspx

that was really cool Abiqua...awesome link. I had no idea there were so many different kinds of bees. Thanks!

I haven't seen this gathering in a 4 years.
There is an old lilac tree where the bees and flies would gather for a few weeks in late August.
No idea why they would gather like this.



There were also these big black and white wasp types that would hang up high in the bush.
Never got stung thank goodness.