Kurt Cobain

oggunna

Active Member
kurt cobain "commited suicide" by writing a suicide note then shooting himself with a shotgun but explain this...

When kurt cobain died he had 225mg of herione in his body 3 times the lethal dose. Medical experts say with so much heroine in your system it will cause you to be incapacitated and cause you to lapse into a coma within seconds, if not kill you instantly. Kurt would of not been able to do this, neatly pick up all his things, roll up his sleeves, and pick up a shotgun and shoot himself.

According to police reports there were no finger prints on the shotgun he supposedly shot himself with, or the pen found found that was use to write the "suicide" note, or the box of shotgun shells found beside Kurt. This indicates that the crime scene was "swept" clean before the body was discovered.

There is evidence that circumstances were manipulated to prevent Kurt from using his own car and gaining access to his own money in the days leading up to his death. Someone also attempted to use his credit card up until the morning og april 8th. Medical examiners had determined Cobain died on april 5th.

Courtney love was facing a divorce. There is documented proof, including her own voice on recordings, that indicates Kurt wanted out of the marriage, out of the music industry, and possibly full custody of their daughter Frances. Dave Grohl confirmed that Nirvana were about to break up at the time. Courtney's father claims Kurt was going to divorce her on adultery charges. Cobain also took steps to write her out of his will.

Eldon Hoke, singer of the band called Mentors, claimed he was offered $50,000 by Courtney to kill Cobain in December 1993. On March 6, 1996 Hoke was administered a lie detector test by Dr. Edward Gelb, who is one of the countries leading polygraph test expert and teaches the advanced polygraph course for the FBI. Hoke passed a lie detector test wit 99.7% certainty that he was tellin the truth.

Kurt said he wasn't suicidal to many people in the weeks prior to his death, including the Seatle police, a doctor that treated him in rome, the people at the Exodus rehab center in L.A, his lawyer , and many friends including his best friend Dylan Carlson who bought him the shotgun on March 30th. Kurt told dylan he was afraid of intruders at the house.

Cobain's friend say the only person who started tellin the media he was suicidal, after he died, was Courtney Love. This goes against everything Kurt himself stold people in the weeks leading up to his death. The media decides to go with Courtney's story with no questions asked.

These are just a FEW of the reasons many around the world are wondering just what really happned that first week of April 1994. This information has since been the subject of books, films, television, radio shows, and many articles in the recent years. Major media outlets like VH1 and programs such as Unsolved Mysteries have run stories.
 

oggunna

Active Member
it has to do with politics because the government is corrupt all this evidence and they still say SUICIDE?!??! u gotta b fuckin me ur either a dumbass, hate kurt cobain, or u cant read shit
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Kurt Cobain really didn't have any political stance, so he would be no threat to the government.
Now I have to agree that Kurt Cobain may have been murdered, having seen the Autopsy photos, there was no damage to the fingers or toes (as he would have to pull the trigger of the shotgun some how) and the kick of the shot gun would have ripped either his fingers or toes off had he turned the gun on himself.

BTW the FBI always investigates when a celebrity dies.

And no I wouldn't put it past Cortney Love.
It just goes to show that even a scumbag like Cortney Love can pay off people.

And No I don't hate Kurt Cobain, I have all his albums (CDs) including a whole lot of bootleg albums.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Kurt was a dickhead mate. One day you will grow up and realise exactly why the Nirvana lead screamer was a dickhead, but right now you think that because he took loads of depressants and sang a few songs about how shit and depressing the world is that he should be something to idolise...

Are you over 18? You are aware that this is an over 18 site?

Kill all your idols.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Sorry the Only facts I can find on Cobains political leanings was that he was against school shootings and thus joined a political action committee for just that reason.
 

vervejunkie

Well-Known Member
kurt cobain "commited suicide" by writing a suicide note then shooting himself with a shotgun but explain this...

When kurt cobain died he had 225mg of herione in his body 3 times the lethal dose. Medical experts say with so much heroine in your system it will cause you to be incapacitated and cause you to lapse into a coma within seconds, if not kill you instantly. Kurt would of not been able to do this, neatly pick up all his things, roll up his sleeves, and pick up a shotgun and shoot himself.
Have you ever done Heroin? (btw "heroine" is a female hero). Do you know anyone who does?

Heroin addicts, as kurt conclusively was, classically must up their dosage to maintain their high (or normalcy depending on the level of addiction). 225mg for a depressed rock star about to kill himself is 100% plausable and physically possible. Unlike the movies, it can take a minute after mainlining to feel the full rush.

According to police reports there were no finger prints on the shotgun he supposedly shot himself with, or the pen found found that was use to write the "suicide" note, or the box of shotgun shells found beside Kurt. This indicates that the crime scene was "swept" clean before the body was discovered.

There is evidence that circumstances were manipulated to prevent Kurt from using his own car and gaining access to his own money in the days leading up to his death. Someone also attempted to use his credit card up until the morning og april 8th. Medical examiners had determined Cobain died on april 5th.

Courtney love was facing a divorce. There is documented proof, including her own voice on recordings, that indicates Kurt wanted out of the marriage, out of the music industry, and possibly full custody of their daughter Frances. Dave Grohl confirmed that Nirvana were about to break up at the time. Courtney's father claims Kurt was going to divorce her on adultery charges. Cobain also took steps to write her out of his will.
Never heard of these theories, do you have a source for this info?

Eldon Hoke, singer of the band called Mentors, claimed he was offered $50,000 by Courtney to kill Cobain in December 1993. On March 6, 1996 Hoke was administered a lie detector test by Dr. Edward Gelb, who is one of the countries leading polygraph test expert and teaches the advanced polygraph course for the FBI. Hoke passed a lie detector test wit 99.7% certainty that he was tellin the truth.
I remember this guy, I believe anyone who goes on Springer to profess a crime is dubious and probably a liar. His information on Wikipedia is not sourced - meaning it is plagerized and not to be trusted.

Kurt said he wasn't suicidal to many people in the weeks prior to his death, including the Seatle police, a doctor that treated him in rome, the people at the Exodus rehab center in L.A, his lawyer , and many friends including his best friend Dylan Carlson who bought him the shotgun on March 30th. Kurt told dylan he was afraid of intruders at the house.

Cobain's friend say the only person who started tellin the media he was suicidal, after he died, was Courtney Love. This goes against everything Kurt himself stold people in the weeks leading up to his death. The media decides to go with Courtney's story with no questions asked.
Only pussies act suicidal and tell people they're suicidal before attempting suicide. Real depressed people just fucking do it.

I would love for Kurt to still be alive and it sucks that he's dead, but he killed himself to die for our grungy sins :mrgreen:
 

oggunna

Active Member
i wasnt tryin to get across that kurt cobain is my hero i dont even listen to nirvana but everything was wiped clean and it was still a suicide it shows that some people relly can get away with murder
 

medicinaluseonly

Well-Known Member
Kurt who? wasn't he married to that slut, whats-her-name, the Heroin addict. Fuck kurt and his whore, the world is more than likely better off without him, If she killed him it was probably justifiable homocide!! If your a Junkie, you're just one push of the needle away from suicide anyway!
 

aquanaut37

Active Member
Has anyone read on any other posts about the possibility Kurt wasn't murdered or didn't commit suicide? How about Kurt overdosed? Then when his body was discovered by Tom Grant and Dylan Carlson, they consulted Courtney about what to do. She most likely was considering how to capitalize on the situation and how to best reap the rewards of his legacy.
She probably told them where to find the "suicide note" she saved and Grant being a detective, staged a crime scene and either he or Dylan could have shot Kurt after he was already dead. Hence the wiped gun and all the other details that lead people to believe he was murdered.
The reason for this was most likely legacy and money. Kurt overdosing as an end to his story would have been the wrong ending and a huge let down that wouldn't have done his music or his fans justice. He'd be just another rock star drug casualty and be forgotten more easily. But a shotgun to the head is a statement! The whole world would remember something like that forever. It's more fitting to his music and message. Plausible. Believable. And very conducive to reaping benefits from his shocking legacy for the rest of her and Frances' life. Think of Courtney's need for fame and money.
I thought of this when I heard the tape of Grant and Dylan going through the house looking for Kurt and calling his name, acting like they weren't aware of the room they found him in. Dylan said it was just a tool closet or something. Like they wouldn't look up there or know the room was there! Sounds to me like the audio tape was an alibi. Them playing dumb to cover their asses. He's a detective, he would've looked everywhere possible and not take cues from Dylan.
Of course, I have no proof of this, but as far as possible outcomes that I haven't heard explored, I don't know, it seemed like a plausible speculation to consider. If it has been discussed and disproven, let me know where I can find that info.:peace:
 

ElBarto

Well-Known Member
Just because it's an irrational/paranoid conspiracy theory does not mean it's political.

Try Toke 'n' Talk.

Next.
 

aquanaut37

Active Member
Just because it's an irrational/paranoid conspiracy theory does not mean it's political.

Try Toke 'n' Talk.

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Who the f**k are you? The official debate mediator? I don't see anything political at all on this brain dead thread. I felt like discussing Kurt, you got a problem with that? I guess talking about him playing triangles in jazz trios was stimulating political discourse? What exactly was irrational or paranoid about starting a conversation or asking a question? F***ing condescending prick. Why don't you start a political discussion with me and we'll see who's irrational or paranoid? And yes, we can do it on toke 'n talk since you have a stick up your ass about the forum. Next...
 
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