Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

genuity · Aug 2, 2015

Beemo said:
those were his old packaging. he hated them. he stated that awhile back.

So he sent them his DVG packs,and the packs with kens packaging ......I'm so lost.

These was not made at kens place was they?

I'm about to pop these the funk.

Bean Busy · Aug 2, 2015

Beemo said:
sorry to burst your bubble. i know you want it to be DVG.
dvg separated from ken like in jan maybe late last year.
another red flag. read the description of black cherry og on the tude.
that is not dvg description of blk cherry og

ken got it right on his description.. (unknown)

When do you think the seeds where made 2013 they were probably harvested October last year. Then DV and ken probably had there fall out and the seeds sat around until they where sent to the seedbanks in may just after things started to settle down between the DV and ken.

Beemo · Aug 2, 2015

genuity said:
So he sent them his DVG packs,and the packs with kens packaging ......I'm so lost.

These was not made at kens place was they?

I'm about to pop these the funk.

your making me lost... lol
from what i read. kens never done any work. all the work you see is from dvg.
so when dvg was still partners with ken. they packaged with kens name on it.

sooo you got one of those old ones that I prefer.
i hope that made sense.
keep us posted on that FUNK

genuity · Aug 2, 2015

Beemo said:
your making me lost... lol
from what i read. kens never done any work. all the work you see is from dvg.
so when dvg was still partners with ken. they packaged with kens name on it.

sooo you got one of those old ones that I prefer.
i hope that made sense.
keep us posted on that FUNK

It's all good,the make up of the funk is just bad as,and I want them to be right.....
That pic DVG posted sold me fast..

Beemo · Aug 2, 2015

Bean Busy said:
When do you think the seeds where made 2013 they were probably harvested October last year. Then DV and ken probably had there fall out and the seeds sat around until they where sent to the seedbanks in may just after things started to settle down between the DV and ken.

when cherry og dropped at the tude. so did everything else. gdp, honeydew?, bay lotus?, cherry og with a different description?
thats why doubt it. BUT i could be wrong.
dont worry. DVG will chime in when he see's this.

Bean Busy · Aug 2, 2015

Dungeons_Vault said:
Black Cherry OG was one of my creations. I grew out the mom which was labeled as GSC from the jump. I found out it wasnt as I had forum and animal at the same time. SO, this plant was sort of a mystery at that point. It had black leaves, crazy amounts of trichome coverage, and just bag appeal off the chart. It was lacking a smell that I personally found appealing. So, I hit it with my tahoe/gdp male and thats what created black cherry OG.

Ken isn't behind in anything...
I made my seeds, released them 4/20/14, and then in July 2014 K** decided to make his own line. Problem is, he did all the breeding outdoors. I have a video of the backyard with plants everywhere. His kids walked around with paintbrushes and just spread pollen wherever. There was a "Kens Kush" "Candyland" and "GDP" male all in the backyard just hanging out, blowing in the wind. I warned him that there would be cross pollination and that there no way of guaranteeing a legitimate F1 cross of two parents. He released them anyway.

Here's the list of what I made while working there:
Black Cherry OG
Grandpa Larry
The Funk
Grand OG
Kendawg
Flowerchild
CoOGies
Candyland V2
Purple Champagne
Phantom Kush
Confidential Purp

The strains ken let cross pollinate in his backyard are mentioned above. The strains DVG made are also mentioned above. I'm pretty sure my black cherry og seeds from the tude in the unbranded packaging where made by DVG and are legit. I could be wrong, but the only person in this thread that truly knows is DVG.

Bean Busy · Aug 2, 2015

Beemo said:
when cherry og dropped at the tude. so did everything else. gdp, honeydew?, bay lotus?, cherry og with a different description?
thats why doubt it. BUT i could be wrong.
dont worry. DVG will chime in when he see's this.

Black cherry og dropped on the 2nd of june 2015 at the tude I know that for a fact coz I had clicked the notify me when back in stock button. It sends an email the second it drops. Also that was the first black cherry og drop on the tude. The other new strains from GDP from the tude dropped in like February this year.

hayrolld · Aug 2, 2015

Bean Busy said:
The strains ken let cross pollinate in his backyard are mentioned above. The strains DVG made are also mentioned above. I'm pretty sure my black cherry og seeds from the tude in the unbranded packaging where made by DVG and are legit. I could be wrong, but the only person in this thread that truly knows is DVG.

How is DVG supposed to know if Ken sent legit seeds months after he left? If DVG tells you they might not be his are you going to return them? If not, you might as well just grow them out and hope you got what you wanted.

Bean Busy · Aug 2, 2015

hayrolld take a breath dude. Im asking DVG if thats the packaging he last seen the black cherry og in. If the seeds look sort of similar in the photo I posted to black cherry og seeds he remembers working with. And no I'm not going to return them. Have you ever returned seeds.

Dungeons_Vault · Aug 2, 2015

georgio838 said:
thanks for the advice, ive just come up with a new breeding plan of crossing my 5yr old original GDP with about 8 different platinum & forum cut crosses so theres gotta be something akin to the good candyland come out of it?...cheers for the tip sir

Well thats not really how it works. We took a solid Platinum Cookie clone that had proven itself time and again to be some killer herb, and hit that with GDP. First time produced great plants, but the new version, I believe shows way more cookie dominance in the line. Sure, if you take a cookie plant and hit it with GDP youre gonna have some good herb, but theres no telling what the other parents in the cross are gonna produce. What genes are gonna really show themselves?

Dungeons_Vault · Aug 2, 2015

akhiymjames said:
Damn thats sucks to hear that the other banks beans are bogus. Was hoping it was real stock that Ken took and sold but it just seems like too many of the banks have those strains in stock and always in stock. Whats all the official place to get DVG gear at. I know them mostly but I want you to let us know what they are so the people here and see straight from DVG mouth where to get legit seeds

OH dont get me wrong... HE HAD legit stock from me. I have the EXACT NUMBERS of what he took still. If my math is right, he would have sold out long ago. There are far too many banks claiming to have those, and it would mean they only purchased a small amount each. Who knows, but I think Ken is on a smear campaign now, and that's fine... He doesnt have any of the new strains and I will be releasing them to chosen banks, not some wholesaler where I have no clue where my stock goes.

Dungeons_Vault · Aug 2, 2015

Bean Busy said:
Would the attitude have legit stock or there also selling fake gear. Also was the black cherry og for the tude legit.
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Attitude was probably one of the first to get the stolen beans and I would say they are more than likely legit. Ken didnt have packaging, and so he sent them out just like that, in the clam style plastic containers I packed them in.

georgio838 said:
thanks for the tip, i never thought of the DVG grandpas breath so ill ad that to the brood, already got the platinum huckleberry cookies, platinum delightes, nightmare cookies, east coast cookie wreck, animal cookies, the cannaventure cookie mix, cookies & cream, flaming cookies

So, back to your first question, and my last post... IF you want cookies, and something even remotely close to Candyland, you need a VERY cookie dominant mom. So out of the above list, Platinum Delights from SCS, Animal Cookies (from seed?), and Flaming Cookies would be what I go to first.

hayrolld said:
Attitude is to blame because DVG explained the whole situation, and they were still happy to sell crap beans of mixed genetics as long as they had a GDP package. The bogus stock is from an open pollination that made a bunch of mixed f2s. If you go back a bit in the thread, we all asked about both of these situations and DVG gave explanations.

E X A C T L Y
I hit up multiple banks and warned them. Ken was taking money before he even sent out seeds and then playing dumb when asked about it.
Attitude said Ken has a great reputation, and they couldn't just take my word for it. They said they dont participate in drama... No problem, they would just rather sell bullshit seeds and make money.

Just so there's no confusion, I really don't know for sure who has what. In utter desperation Ken got rid of everything and he did it quick. Seedsman got stock too and then who knows where it all went from there.
I will say that was almost a year ago and I would assume most have been sold. If you don't get your seeds through me, or a trusted source that has been mentioned previously, then you can't be certain you're getting what you paid for.

Dungeons_Vault · Aug 2, 2015

hayrolld said:
A lot of the stuff he made, Ken sent in. Not sure how he could know if iits the stuff he made, or the crap Ken made after he left. That was sort of the point of don't trust attitude.

I have to agree with that. It's been a year and attitude MOVES seeds.

Beemo said:
im pretty sure thats not dvg gear you got from tude.
dvg just stated only a couple places has dvg. tude wasnt included

I already answered this above, but then made another point ^ so just to be clear, I HAVE NO CLUE if those are legit, but they are in the same packaging I gave to Ken. Attitude added the bag and label.
But to the point of me not stating who has DVG... Attitude DID have my original creations. A YEAR AGO... Do they still? Who knows, and they would be labeled under grand daddy genetics.

hayrolld said:
He made them originally. That does not mean Ken did not keep selling beans labeled black cherry og after he ran out of the ones DVG made. So it could be either. The only person who could tell you for sure is Ken, and I doubt he will. Why not just run them and find out? You could have some of the only good black cherry that got released.

You would be one if few people growing it. I have seen some fire come from it though

Beemo said:
sorry to burst your bubble. i know you want it to be DVG.
dvg separated from ken like in jan maybe late last year.
another red flag. read the description of black cherry og on the tude.
that is not dvg description of blk cherry og

ken got it right on his description.. (unknown)

I separated from him in December, and I wrote that description... I have always said it was an Unknown x Kens OG aka Tahoe x GDP
Here's my original description from my email:
"BLACK CHERRY OG"
The Black Cherry cut as I call it, came to us as a "GSC" clone and was found to not be. What she did offer was worth keeping and working with. The plant had black leaves, purple buds and extreme trich production. We added Kens OG to bring out more funk.
Lineage: (Unknown GDP cross) x Kens OG
Flowering: 9-10 weeks
Yield: Low-Medium

here's attitudes:
Black Cherry OG marijuana strain a combination of unknown GDP cross and Kens OG. Black Cherry OG cannabis seeds are suitable both for indoor and out and take 9 to 10 weeks of flowering. The plant will have black leaves, purple buds and show extreme trichome production.
Genetics: (Unknown GDP cross) x Kens OG
Grows: Indoors / Outdoors
Flowering Time: 9-10 weeks
Yield: Low-Medium

Their full of shit though, cause they are using pics of other plants for Ken. They put a pic of "Phantom" aka "Pink Champagne" up for Coogies, and I just had someone tell me they used his pic of a rare dankness plant as one of Kens strains as well. If you cant even provide pics of the strains you're trying to sell, its hard to trust.

genuity said:
That's what I'm trying to get at,if he sent ngr/the dank team his beans,why did I get 2 different packs?

Makes no sense to me...

The only reason that is is because I dealt with them before the thievery took place. They had been buying my stock and once the BS went down, they still had stuff left with old packaging.

genuity · Aug 2, 2015

Thanks DVG....I can see clear now.

Beemo · Aug 2, 2015

you should go ahead and change the names like the funk, candyland v2, phantom, and all the old names.
people are getting confused if they have the real FUNK. its everywhere, mws, tude, beeds, etc.
its like ggg joseph, aka, joseph og, ny og kush, underdawg.
we know its underdawg, but we like to call it joseph.
so if you changed the funk to "stank". we would understand.

georgio838 · Aug 2, 2015

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Dungeons_Vault said:
I have to agree with that. It's been a year and attitude MOVES seeds.

I already answered this above, but then made another point ^ so just to be clear, I HAVE NO CLUE if those are legit, but they are in the same packaging I gave to Ken. Attitude added the bag and label.
But to the point of me not stating who has DVG... Attitude DID have my original creations. A YEAR AGO... Do they still? Who knows, and they would be labeled under grand daddy genetics.

You would be one if few people growing it. I have seen some fire come from it though
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I separated from him in December, and I wrote that description... I have always said it was an Unknown x Kens OG aka Tahoe x GDP
Here's my original description from my email:
"BLACK CHERRY OG"
The Black Cherry cut as I call it, came to us as a "GSC" clone and was found to not be. What she did offer was worth keeping and working with. The plant had black leaves, purple buds and extreme trich production. We added Kens OG to bring out more funk.
Lineage: (Unknown GDP cross) x Kens OG
Flowering: 9-10 weeks
Yield: Low-Medium

here's attitudes:
Black Cherry OG marijuana strain a combination of unknown GDP cross and Kens OG. Black Cherry OG cannabis seeds are suitable both for indoor and out and take 9 to 10 weeks of flowering. The plant will have black leaves, purple buds and show extreme trichome production.
Genetics: (Unknown GDP cross) x Kens OG
Grows: Indoors / Outdoors
Flowering Time: 9-10 weeks
Yield: Low-Medium

Their full of shit though, cause they are using pics of other plants for Ken. They put a pic of "Phantom" aka "Pink Champagne" up for Coogies, and I just had someone tell me they used his pic of a rare dankness plant as one of Kens strains as well. If you cant even provide pics of the strains you're trying to sell, its hard to trust.

The only reason that is is because I dealt with them before the thievery took place. They had been buying my stock and once the BS went down, they still had stuff left with old packaging.

reckon 1 mths cash flow from the tude would set me up for life..just guessing probably a million +?

georgio838 · Aug 2, 2015

hayrolld said:
@georgio438 you are going to have more cookies than the keebler elves! Love it bro! Did you run the CV cookie mix yet?

thanks, ive never ran any of those before, only read about them here and elsewhere, i like to do big crossups because it basically wipes out one season just doing that, then i got enough for yrs to come without breeding every few years, lots of casualties where i am outdoors here & possibly end up going through a 100+ seeds in a season

hayrolld · Aug 2, 2015

Bean Busy said:
hayrolld take a breath dude. Im asking DVG if thats the packaging he last seen the black cherry og in. If the seeds look sort of similar in the photo I posted to black cherry og seeds he remembers working with. And no I'm not going to return them. Have you ever returned seeds.

Hey brother, I know you think I was getting down on you but that was not my point. All of us have had bad experiences with seedbanks. Since you already have those, why not just run them? Even if you got some random mix from ken, they are from good genetics. One good female, even if its not black cherry, will cover that packs cost.

Dungeons_Vault · Aug 2, 2015

Beemo said:
you should go ahead and change the names like the funk, candyland v2, phantom, and all the old names.
people are getting confused if they have the real FUNK. its everywhere, mws, tude, beeds, etc.
its like ggg joseph, aka, joseph og, ny og kush, underdawg.
we know its underdawg, but we like to call it joseph.
so if you changed the funk to "stank". we would understand.

Ive already thought about this and have chosen to NOT change the names. If people are confused, then they should ask around or do some research. I have done my part to make it clear. Its up to the consumer to do their homework. I spent a year on those projects and I'm not gonna just sit back and forget what I made. I could easily change all the names, but thats gonna confuse the hell out of everyone too

georgio838 · Aug 2, 2015

Dungeons_Vault said:
Ive already thought about this and have chosen to NOT change the names. If people are confused, then they should ask around or do some research. I have done my part to make it clear. Its up to the consumer to do their homework. I spent a year on those projects and I'm not gonna just sit back and forget what I made. I could easily change all the names, but thats gonna confuse the hell out of everyone too

i bet you get more than a few migraines lately man...it can all be a shitfight sometimes...

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