ProdigalSun
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I should be getting the funds to purchace the ingredients for the soil in a couple weeks. Meanwhile, I read TLO. , and I'm reading Teaming With Microbes now.
Keeping It Real: An Organic Journey
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DonTesla
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Tell me bout da sweet shift to ORGANICS! yea The Revs book is the one that really peaked my interest.. my bro's mix really stemmed from there… then simplified as to remove unnecessary spikes and layers, followed by the ousting the commercial products that could be replaced by natural, more affordable, alternatives, (Like cal-Mag, no need, brothamon) and from there evolved into a truly all natural organic super mix, and its matching, vegan counterpart. If you have any questions, thoughts or insights to share, including anyt'in' on either of those cool reads, we're all ears, mon!
DonPetro
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The following is adapted from a post by member Rrog who posts in the Michigan Medi forum.
I have yet to try it but have heard great things so here goes...
Lactobacillus is collected from the air around us. First, place 1/2 cup of uncooked rice in a bowl. Add 1 cup cool water(distilled, r/o) and let sit for about an hour. Stir again so that the water will become cloudy with the settled starches from the rice. Pour off the rice wash into a clean mason jar.
Place the open jar at about 2 feet off the floor somewhere in your house where it won't be easily disturbed. After 2 days, loosely put a lid on the jar and keep it in a dark place at room temperature for two more days. After two days there will be a stinky film on the top. This is perfect. You have all sorts of wild bacteria, fungus, and yeasts.
We selectively feed Lacto B the lactose in milk. The rest of the organisms in that rice wash don’t do so well in that environment, and Lacto B dominates.So we have 2 cups of room temp milk. Skim, whole, 2%, whatever. Not hot and not cold. 70F is great. To that milk, add just a teaspoon or so of that stinky rice wash. Throw away the rest of the rice wash.Two days later, the Lacto B will have separated much of the protein from the yellow whey (serum). Scoop out the cheese-like protein so you can get at that yellow serum.
Mix the yellow serum 1:1 with molasses, and 20 parts water. It’s ready to store in the fridge. The molasses will also feed the Lacto B. This is still concentrated. You can add a couple tablespoons of this to a gallon of water for soil or foliar. You can add this to soil to start the microbes after a new soil mix. You can spray as a foliar in veg or early flower.
I have yet to try it but have heard great things so here goes...
Lactobacillus is collected from the air around us. First, place 1/2 cup of uncooked rice in a bowl. Add 1 cup cool water(distilled, r/o) and let sit for about an hour. Stir again so that the water will become cloudy with the settled starches from the rice. Pour off the rice wash into a clean mason jar.
Place the open jar at about 2 feet off the floor somewhere in your house where it won't be easily disturbed. After 2 days, loosely put a lid on the jar and keep it in a dark place at room temperature for two more days. After two days there will be a stinky film on the top. This is perfect. You have all sorts of wild bacteria, fungus, and yeasts.
We selectively feed Lacto B the lactose in milk. The rest of the organisms in that rice wash don’t do so well in that environment, and Lacto B dominates.So we have 2 cups of room temp milk. Skim, whole, 2%, whatever. Not hot and not cold. 70F is great. To that milk, add just a teaspoon or so of that stinky rice wash. Throw away the rest of the rice wash.Two days later, the Lacto B will have separated much of the protein from the yellow whey (serum). Scoop out the cheese-like protein so you can get at that yellow serum.
Mix the yellow serum 1:1 with molasses, and 20 parts water. It’s ready to store in the fridge. The molasses will also feed the Lacto B. This is still concentrated. You can add a couple tablespoons of this to a gallon of water for soil or foliar. You can add this to soil to start the microbes after a new soil mix. You can spray as a foliar in veg or early flower.
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~Dankster~420
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~Dankster~420
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I hear that. Me 2 
DonTesla
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GLAD YOU BOYS LOVE DA PIC, I DO TOO…WOWWWWWWWW WAS MY WORD AS I RAAN FOR A CAM..WAS VERY LUCKY TO CAPTURE DAT ONE.. HARD TO BELIEVE HOW MUCH POWER LIES INNA DEM SINGLE COCOONS, MON, OR WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE SINGLE EGGS… BORN INNA DA WORKING POOR CLASS, IF U COULD GET JUST ONE COCOON AND ONE FEMALE SEED.. WITH SOME NURTURING AND STEADY PROGRESS... U COULD EVENTUALLY BECOME ANYTHING U IMAGINED.. ALL NATURALLY ALL THE WAYI have to say bro.. Great work..nice pics to..
~Dankster~420
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I agree 100%. I try n keep it 100% organic when it comes to my grows. 
here's my Marie's Sapphire (purple pheno) sticky goodness --> 
here's my Marie's Sapphire (purple pheno) sticky goodness -->
DonPetro
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Always an honour to have you stop by, brother! I hope to someday be a grower and breeder of your calibre. What kind of light you rocking these days?I agree 100%. I try n keep it 100% organic when it comes to my grows.
DonTesla
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HOW FITTING..
IN THE KEEPING IT REAL FORUM TO PLACE DIS NICE PICTCHA MON… KEEPIN DA FERTILIZER AND PESTICIDES ALL NATURAL MON! AND TO THINK THEY GOT GROWTH HORMONES TOO! LOVE DAT INSECT FRASS! WHOEVER COMPLAINS ABOUT THE $10 A LB DOESNT REALIZE IT HAS ABOUT 5 000-10 000 APPLICATIONS AT A WEAK STRENGTH IF U INCLUDE DA FACT DAT ONE APPLICATION HAS BENEFITS FOR MULTIPLE WATERIN'S!!.. NO DISRESPECT ITS ALL LOVE BUT TO DA HATERS, I PITY DA FOO!
IN THE KEEPING IT REAL FORUM TO PLACE DIS NICE PICTCHA MON… KEEPIN DA FERTILIZER AND PESTICIDES ALL NATURAL MON! AND TO THINK THEY GOT GROWTH HORMONES TOO! LOVE DAT INSECT FRASS! WHOEVER COMPLAINS ABOUT THE $10 A LB DOESNT REALIZE IT HAS ABOUT 5 000-10 000 APPLICATIONS AT A WEAK STRENGTH IF U INCLUDE DA FACT DAT ONE APPLICATION HAS BENEFITS FOR MULTIPLE WATERIN'S!!.. NO DISRESPECT ITS ALL LOVE BUT TO DA HATERS, I PITY DA FOO!
DonPetro
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Who can deny the power of organics?! 
This beauty (LemonHaze×Chernobyl) is looking like she may go beyond ten weeks. As such, she was hit with a mild molasses/worm cast tea to see her through to the end. She had been top-dressed with worm casting and insect frass early in flower and is a day from 6 weeks of flower. Other than that it has been straight water. Really looking forward to using the bigger containers and letting the soil mix (and the microbes) really shine. Overall, seeing amazing results and i am sold on these "Intelligent Pots". Never have i seen healthier plants and considering these are only in 1 gallon containers it really is amazing.
This beauty (LemonHaze×Chernobyl) is looking like she may go beyond ten weeks. As such, she was hit with a mild molasses/worm cast tea to see her through to the end. She had been top-dressed with worm casting and insect frass early in flower and is a day from 6 weeks of flower. Other than that it has been straight water. Really looking forward to using the bigger containers and letting the soil mix (and the microbes) really shine. Overall, seeing amazing results and i am sold on these "Intelligent Pots". Never have i seen healthier plants and considering these are only in 1 gallon containers it really is amazing.
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DonPetro
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Humus and its Benefits:
Humus is often described as the 'life-force' of the soil. Yet it is difficult to define humus in precise terms; it is a highly complex substance, the full nature of which is still not fully understood. Physically, humus can be differentiated from organic matter in that the latter is rough looking material, with coarse plant remains still visible, while once fully humified organic matter becomes more uniform in appearance (a dark, spongy, jelly-like substance) and amorphous in structure, and may remain such for millennia or more.
Benefits of Humus
●The mineralization process that converts raw organic matter to the relatively stable substance that is humus, feeds the soil population of micro-organisms and other creatures, thus maintaining high and healthy levels of soil life.
●The rate at which raw organic matter is converted into humus promotes (when fast) or limits (when slow) the coexistence of plants, animals and microbes in terrestrial ecosystems.
●Effective and stable humus (see below) are further sources of nutrients to microbes, the former providing a readily available supply while the latter acts as a more long-term storage reservoir.
●Decomposition of dead plant material causes complex organic compounds to be slowly oxidized (lignin-like humus) or to break down into simpler forms which are further transformed into microbial biomass (microbial humus) or are reorganized (and still oxidized) in humic assemblages which bind to clay minerals and metal hydroxides.
●There has been a long debate about the ability of plants to uptake humus from their root systems and to use it for their nutrition. There is now a consensus about humus as playing a hormonal role rather than a nutritional role in plant physiology.
●Humus is a colloidal substance, and increases the soil's cation exchange capacity (CEC), hence its ability to store nutrients by chelation as can clay particles; thus while these nutrient cations are accessible to plants, they are held in the soil safe from leaching away by rain or irrigation.
●Humus can hold the equivalent of 80–90% of its weight in moisture, and therefore increases the soil's capacity to withstand drought conditions.
●The biochemical structure of humus enables it to moderate — or buffer — excessive acid or alkaline soil conditions.
●During the humification process, microbes (bacteria and fungi) secrete sticky gums and mucilage’s; these contribute to the crumb structure of the soil by holding particles together, allowing greater aeration (porosity) of the soil.
●Toxic substances such as heavy metals, as well as excess nutrients, can be chelated (that is, bound to the complex organic molecules of humus) and prevented from entering the wider ecosystem, thereby detoxifying it.
●The dark color of humus (usually black or very dark brown) helps to warm up cold soils in the spring.
source:http://www.thesoilguy.com/SG/Humus-Technical-1
Humus is often described as the 'life-force' of the soil. Yet it is difficult to define humus in precise terms; it is a highly complex substance, the full nature of which is still not fully understood. Physically, humus can be differentiated from organic matter in that the latter is rough looking material, with coarse plant remains still visible, while once fully humified organic matter becomes more uniform in appearance (a dark, spongy, jelly-like substance) and amorphous in structure, and may remain such for millennia or more.
Benefits of Humus
●The mineralization process that converts raw organic matter to the relatively stable substance that is humus, feeds the soil population of micro-organisms and other creatures, thus maintaining high and healthy levels of soil life.
●The rate at which raw organic matter is converted into humus promotes (when fast) or limits (when slow) the coexistence of plants, animals and microbes in terrestrial ecosystems.
●Effective and stable humus (see below) are further sources of nutrients to microbes, the former providing a readily available supply while the latter acts as a more long-term storage reservoir.
●Decomposition of dead plant material causes complex organic compounds to be slowly oxidized (lignin-like humus) or to break down into simpler forms which are further transformed into microbial biomass (microbial humus) or are reorganized (and still oxidized) in humic assemblages which bind to clay minerals and metal hydroxides.
●There has been a long debate about the ability of plants to uptake humus from their root systems and to use it for their nutrition. There is now a consensus about humus as playing a hormonal role rather than a nutritional role in plant physiology.
●Humus is a colloidal substance, and increases the soil's cation exchange capacity (CEC), hence its ability to store nutrients by chelation as can clay particles; thus while these nutrient cations are accessible to plants, they are held in the soil safe from leaching away by rain or irrigation.
●Humus can hold the equivalent of 80–90% of its weight in moisture, and therefore increases the soil's capacity to withstand drought conditions.
●The biochemical structure of humus enables it to moderate — or buffer — excessive acid or alkaline soil conditions.
●During the humification process, microbes (bacteria and fungi) secrete sticky gums and mucilage’s; these contribute to the crumb structure of the soil by holding particles together, allowing greater aeration (porosity) of the soil.
●Toxic substances such as heavy metals, as well as excess nutrients, can be chelated (that is, bound to the complex organic molecules of humus) and prevented from entering the wider ecosystem, thereby detoxifying it.
●The dark color of humus (usually black or very dark brown) helps to warm up cold soils in the spring.
source:http://www.thesoilguy.com/SG/Humus-Technical-1
DonTesla
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BRO, THESE ARE FOR YOU!
WE NEED TO START A DON WIGGLER THREAD
I CAN BARELY BARELY STOP CHECKING OUT THESE WORM PICS HAHA
ADMIRE THE BABIES GALORE IN TOP PIC, AND THE ALMOST-LIQUIDY PURE-POOL OF CASTINGS IN BOTTOM PIC.
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DonPetro
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Yea you got those worms crankin out the best almost-humus there is. Here's one for you my fellow worm farmer.
DonPetro
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Look at all the babies in that first pic!