Karma Genetics

BlackAdderII

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It’s all good. My punctuation and grammar is horrible and my mother tongue is English. This is scientific information that helps people know more about growing this line of Karma’s genetics.
The Biker pheno’s would probably more viney stems and tight golf ball like flowers. Mine seemed to want to flower longer than 10 weeks when I had to harvest them. I’d love to have a tight sour Og again.
My 2 most sour pheno’s had no sweet smell when you put your nose to the flowers. They had more upright structure compared to my floppy biker pheno. They produce serious cola’s of mouth coating sour that everyone loves.
I’m in the process of searching through my F2’s of my favourite sour pheno for a male. I’m using him to pollinate 2 pheno’s of Sunshine Daydream (Bohdi Seeds) for personal seed stock.
right. your description of the biker pheno sounds like #10 very different to the rest
 

thenugget

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Has anybody had any dramas with karma hermies?

Very pissed off as I have 5 sherb bikers in my room at the moment just hitting 2 weeks flower and every single one of them is a full blown true hermie.


This run I made sure my environment was 100% in check and chose too run regular beans as I've had to pull a hermie in both of my last runs but admittedly, im sure they were by fault of my own. (Fucking with light etc) so I got a pack of 12 pack of regular sherb biker and chucked em in some cubes too start, I think 9 Germed and they all grew nicely.
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As I run a 4 site rdwc system I was only after 4 solid girls but have different lids so if I had 8 girls I could potentially run 2 plants in each tub.

Anyway I vegged 8 (2 in each lid ) in the system and chucked the last one in a bigger rockwool cube .. ended up with 5 showing female preflowers one of which was thr one in thr bigger rockwool cube.
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I also have an ak-47 in a cube in the same room.
And here is after getting rid of the males and vegging and training

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Here they are a day or 2 ago roughly 12 days into flower
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I use current cultures full line of nutes with r/o water and chiller. Tds around 400 and daytime temp 28-31c and humidity around 55% Nightime a few degrees cooler and 45% humidity . Have no lightleaks and everything is in check so im extremely annoyed too have to start over this close to a harvest of what were to be perceived as great quality nugs..
Here are some pics of male flowers.
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I cut them all down last night and am extremely passed off with the time, money and energy wasted after only hearing good things about karma... I received 12 king mamba seeds when I made the order they are from Kali kush farms or something so I've got them germing but im quite sure its just another karma strain so fucked if I know but I've got them germing now..
Love too know what anyone thinks or if anyone has a similar experience with running karmas gear.. 1 or 2 id understand but for all 5 too be full hermie while one of thr most abused plants I've ever grown (the serious seeds ak47 in the same room) didn't I can't help but feel it was all down to karmas genetics.
Thanks
 

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JewelRunner

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Has anybody had any dramas with karma hermies?

Very pissed off as I have 5 sherb bikers in my room at the moment just hitting 2 weeks flower and every single one of them is a full blown true hermie.


This run I made sure my environment was 100% in check and chose too run regular beans as I've had to pull a hermie in both of my last runs but admittedly, im sure they were by fault of my own. (Fucking with light etc) so I got a pack of 12 pack of regular sherb biker and chucked em in some cubes too start, I think 9 Germed and they all grew nicely.
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As I run a 4 site rdwc system I was only after 4 solid girls but have different lids so if I had 8 girls I could potentially run 2 plants in each tub.

Anyway I vegged 8 (2 in each lid ) in the system and chucked the last one in a bigger rockwool cube .. ended up with 5 showing female preflowers one of which was thr one in thr bigger rockwool cube.
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I also have an ak-47 in a cube in the same room.
And here is after getting rid of the males and vegging and training

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Here they are a day or 2 ago roughly 12 days into flower
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I use current cultures full line of nutes with r/o water and chiller. Tds around 400 and daytime temp 28-31c and humidity around 55% Nightime a few degrees cooler and 45% humidity . Have no lightleaks and everything is in check so im extremely annoyed too have to start over this close to a harvest of what were to be perceived as great quality nugs..
Here are some pics of male flowers.
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I cut them all down last night and am extremely passed off with the time, money and energy wasted after only hearing good things about karma... I received 12 king mamba seeds when I made the order they are from Kali kush farms or something so I've got them germing but im quite sure its just another karma strain so fucked if I know but I've got them germing now..
Love too know what anyone thinks or if anyone has a similar experience with running karmas gear.. 1 or 2 id understand but for all 5 too be full hermie while one of thr most abused plants I've ever grown (the serious seeds ak47 in the same room) didn't I can't help but feel it was all down to karmas genetics.
Thanks
shit, that sucks. I grew out three ak 47 females from serious and one was a full blown hermie, funny enough. sucks to have to waste all those weeks to figure it out.
 

kwigybo88

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If you're absolutely positive there's no light leaks, or timer issues etc, then yeah its the genes. Karma is a great guy tho so if you contact him A.im sure he'd appreciate the feedback and B.you'll get replacements. He himself has said if everyrhing herms, then yeah there's a problem with those seeds.

I wouldnt bother with the Mamba's. They yield like shit.
 

eastcoastled

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@thenugget the fourth pic you posted shows stressed plants with the leaves all droopy. I don’t know how you get that in your set up, usually means they dried out. some Strains can take more abuse than others, so comparing different strains in the same room is never accurate. Besides the droopy pics, your plants look healthy so it’s tough to say. I would lean towards something environmental before blaming the plants.
 

Kp sunshine

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Has anybody had any dramas with karma hermies?

Very pissed off as I have 5 sherb bikers in my room at the moment just hitting 2 weeks flower and every single one of them is a full blown true hermie.


This run I made sure my environment was 100% in check and chose too run regular beans as I've had to pull a hermie in both of my last runs but admittedly, im sure they were by fault of my own. (Fucking with light etc) so I got a pack of 12 pack of regular sherb biker and chucked em in some cubes too start, I think 9 Germed and they all grew nicely.
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As I run a 4 site rdwc system I was only after 4 solid girls but have different lids so if I had 8 girls I could potentially run 2 plants in each tub.

Anyway I vegged 8 (2 in each lid ) in the system and chucked the last one in a bigger rockwool cube .. ended up with 5 showing female preflowers one of which was thr one in thr bigger rockwool cube.
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I also have an ak-47 in a cube in the same room.
And here is after getting rid of the males and vegging and training

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Here they are a day or 2 ago roughly 12 days into flower
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I use current cultures full line of nutes with r/o water and chiller. Tds around 400 and daytime temp 28-31c and humidity around 55% Nightime a few degrees cooler and 45% humidity . Have no lightleaks and everything is in check so im extremely annoyed too have to start over this close to a harvest of what were to be perceived as great quality nugs..
Here are some pics of male flowers.
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I cut them all down last night and am extremely passed off with the time, money and energy wasted after only hearing good things about karma... I received 12 king mamba seeds when I made the order they are from Kali kush farms or something so I've got them germing but im quite sure its just another karma strain so fucked if I know but I've got them germing now..
Love too know what anyone thinks or if anyone has a similar experience with running karmas gear.. 1 or 2 id understand but for all 5 too be full hermie while one of thr most abused plants I've ever grown (the serious seeds ak47 in the same room) didn't I can't help but feel it was all down to karmas genetics.
Thanks
That’s sucks to get that far into a run. It’s not something you usually see with karma gear. Message him he’s a good guy.
 

thenugget

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If you're absolutely positive there's no light leaks, or timer issues etc, then yeah its the genes. Karma is a great guy tho so if you contact him A.im sure he'd appreciate the feedback and B.you'll get replacements. He himself has said if everyrhing herms, then yeah there's a problem with those seeds.

I wouldnt bother with the Mamba's. They yield like shit.
Yeah man im 100% on the environment, that's why I'm so pissed off is because I made it a priority too never be fucking around in there when lights were on and turned off and was so anal this grow documenting everything and going too the effort off weaning out males with regular beans instead of fem which now it seems after doing alot of reading on the herm subject regular beans are just as likely too herm as their female counterparts? Don't know the truth in that but i was led to believe that regular seeds produced stronger, better plants anyway. Screenshot_20210201-221319_Gallery.jpg
Another shot off the fucking balls they were everywhere. Some worse than others but none the less all 5 plants were 100% hermie and i can confidently say that it had nothing to do with stress.

As for the king Mamba's they are all I've got so im starting them anyway its either them or take some more cuttings off an already revegging cutting that I took off one of my outdoor girls which looked like it could be a keeper but yet too see how she turns out.
Strain is margalope by cannrado
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@thenugget the fourth pic you posted shows stressed plants with the leaves all droopy. I don’t know how you get that in your set up, usually means they dried out. some Strains can take more abuse than others, so comparing different strains in the same room is never accurate. Besides the droopy pics, your plants look healthy so it’s tough to say. I would lean towards something environmental before blaming the plants.
As I said man my environment is 100% in check as I went thr extra mile this go around too be sure of that. And the picture you are referring too was taken right after putting the net over the plants so they obviously were stressed a touch but mind you this was a week or so before flip and thr droopy plant you must be referring too in the back was either one of the plants in a rockwool cube and did need a drink but the plants in thr system were as healthy as can be 20210126_021744.jpg

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SATIVAZOID ROBOT

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Serious concern here! Got two freebies from karma..crumbled lime..Did a whole freebie run this time.Hso Chemdawg..Barney's g13 haze..Lemon Thai.. pineapple xpress a...The two crumbled lime were dead nuts full blown Hermaphrodite plants at first stages of flower...I was excited as karma is one breeder I've never used but have been eyeballing for quite some time..Don't think this steers me completely away from karma as they are seeds..BUT. I've never had a full blown hermy and I'm somewhat of a veteran seed grower..few nanners now and then but not this...WHAT GIVES.. really want to try crumbled lime
 

sandshuru

Member
Has anybody had any dramas with karma hermies?

Very pissed off as I have 5 sherb bikers in my room at the moment just hitting 2 weeks flower and every single one of them is a full blown true hermie.
I'm running 10 sherb bikers from Karma here, its on 3 week flower, I had 5 males, 2 pure females (until now), and 3 hermies, one with a lot of bags, one intermediate, and one I detect only one bag.. but here can have a relattionship with heat stress (~34ºC) and maybe stress by very low light on veg, I don't know... I'm running they with other 8 plants, and have no others hermies.
 

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booms111

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hi guys my headbangers are closing in on 12 weeks but the trics still look mostly clear still should I give it a couple more weeks?
Is this your first run with Headbanger? I found some were ready at 60 days up to 80 days. The shorter fatter bud OG leaners were done earlier. The trics on the Sour leaners will look alittle clear even when there done at 75-80 days. I find they lose there flavor alittle and go towards a tired stone instead of a happy up high after 75 days. Out of 2 packs of Bangers i kept a 60% Sour 40% Og that ive harvested at 65,70,72,75,78,80, and 82 and the 75 day was the best. ive had her for awhile obviously, lol! Shes a tasty bitch!!!
 

BlackAdderII

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Is this your first run with Headbanger? I found some were ready at 60 days up to 80 days. The shorter fatter bud OG leaners were done earlier. The trics on the Sour leaners will look alittle clear even when there done at 75-80 days. I find they lose there flavor alittle and go towards a tired stone instead of a happy up high after 75 days. Out of 2 packs of Bangers i kept a 60% Sour 40% Og that ive harvested at 65,70,72,75,78,80, and 82 and the 75 day was the best. ive had her for awhile obviously, lol! Shes a tasty bitch!!!
yes sir
I had some serious ph problems during this grow
serious foxtailing buds with a lot of new white hairs
guess I'll pull them down today
 

Bakersfield

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Day 70 headbanger, please excuse the roasted leaves. I'm used to heavy-feeding indicas and burnt the shit out of these. Anything with Sour D dominance can be finicky apparently but lesson learnt.

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Those look incredible!

Makes sense they look that way.
Chemdawg also fries up nicely.
Some say she starts eating herself and gives the appearance that she's been overfed.
 
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