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Bubblegum31

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EPES is responsive to measurements of energy managers... Energy companies give a signal on the cable , after which they can measure the power consumption per property / connection. Once the company will perform this measurement, the EPES will pick up this signal and shut downs all installation behind the EPES module. This allows measuring the energy then no strong capabilities and the garden will not be discovered. The EPES switches all major power consumers . Except EXHAUST !!! (optional).
Or disable a backup system for your garden Since everything is being turned off after the EPES picks asignal...

500euro worth each penny.

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augusto1

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EPES is responsive to measurements of energy managers... Energy companies give a signal on the cable , after which they can measure the power consumption per property / connection. Once the company will perform this measurement, the EPES will pick up this signal and shut downs all installation behind the EPES module. This allows measuring the energy then no strong capabilities and the garden will not be discovered. The EPES switches all major power consumers . Except EXHAUST !!! (optional).
Or disable a backup system for your garden Since everything is being turned off after the EPES picks asignal...

500euro worth each penny.

Success.
Do you know any place that sell this in USA?. thanks

I believe they only can do that kind of check when there is only one house connected in the transformer, in USA they use to connect 5 to 6 houses to one transformer.
 
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bottletoke

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EPES is responsive to measurements of energy managers... Energy companies give a signal on the cable , after which they can measure the power consumption per property / connection. Once the company will perform this measurement, the EPES will pick up this signal and shut downs all installation behind the EPES module. This allows measuring the energy then no strong capabilities and the garden will not be discovered. The EPES switches all major power consumers . Except EXHAUST !!! (optional).
Or disable a backup system for your garden Since everything is being turned off after the EPES picks asignal...

500euro worth each penny.

Success.
This makes no sense to me unless your on a flat rate or nonmetered system. We are metered for every watt we consume so it wouldn't work here.
 

HydroNito305

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This makes no sense to me unless your on a flat rate or nonmetered system. We are metered for every watt we consume so it wouldn't work here.
This is only to be used on any/all connections made onto the electricity that is being meter bypassed, so if the electric company decides to do a power reading on the power cables running into your home to check if you're stealing power, the EPES will shut the entire operation down and the only thing that will show up on the reading is the legally obtained power that you're actually paying for.
 

augusto1

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This is only to be used on any/all connections made onto the electricity that is being meter bypassed, so if the electric company decides to do a power reading on the power cables running into your home to check if you're stealing power, the EPES will shut the entire operation down and the only thing that will show up on the reading is the legally obtained power that you're actually paying for.
By any chance do you kow any place where to buy the EPES in USA?, but I believe if the cable going to the house is check with a clamps Meter the EPES won't be able to detect it.
 

HydroNito305

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By any chance do you kow any place where to buy the EPES in USA?, but I believe if the cable going to the house is check with a clamps Meter the EPES won't be able to detect it.
Yea, I dont think it'll detect a clamp meter neither. But anyways the way that i see it, is that the EPES or similar device is unnecessary. If they're checking out your power lines it's just for confirmation that you're actually diverting unmetered power into your home, because they've already been on to you since you either blew a transformer or a meter reader guy smelled a funny odor or something. I don't think the power company is running random checks on houses across the country unless they're at the very least fulfilling a work order at a certain property.
 

bottletoke

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This is only to be used on any/all connections made onto the electricity that is being meter bypassed, so if the electric company decides to do a power reading on the power cables running into your home to check if you're stealing power, the EPES will shut the entire operation down and the only thing that will show up on the reading is the legally obtained power that you're actually paying for.
It won't work here, if there is an unaccounted loss of consumed power they send out a tech that installs a data logger which meters every output from the distribution point (multiple clamp on meters after the transformer). Every transformer has a meter recording total current going in and every once in a while they add up all the outputs and see if everything adds up. The good thing is there are ground faults everywhere which use tons of hydro so the simple addition game doesn't add up unless they want to spend $$$ on repairing all those cables but excessive losses they look into, small amounts aren't worth it.
I'm an electrician, worked municipal hydro for 5 years as a lineman.
 

HydroNito305

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It won't work here, if there is an unaccounted loss of consumed power they send out a tech that installs a data logger which meters every output from the distribution point (multiple clamp on meters after the transformer). Every transformer has a meter recording total current going in and every once in a while they add up all the outputs and see if everything adds up. The good thing is there are ground faults everywhere which use tons of hydro so the simple addition game doesn't add up unless they want to spend $$$ on repairing all those cables but excessive losses they look into, small amounts aren't worth it.
I'm an electrician, worked municipal hydro for 5 years as a lineman.
The step down transformer at my house is one of those white bucket looking ones on top of the pole, and it looks quite old, from 1986 I believe, there is about 4 or 5 houses hooked up to it, and it doesn't have a meter. Only those newer big green box looking "padmount-transformers" seem to have a meter around here.
 

augusto1

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The step down transformer at my house is one of those white bucket looking ones on top of the pole, and it looks quite old, from 1986 I believe, there is about 4 or 5 houses hooked up to it, and it doesn't have a meter. Only those newer big green box looking "padmount-transformers" seem to have a meter around here.
Were exactly are those meter installed ?, I haven't seen it. Thanks in advance.
 

bottletoke

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The step down transformer at my house is one of those white bucket looking ones on top of the pole, and it looks quite old, from 1986 I believe, there is about 4 or 5 houses hooked up to it, and it doesn't have a meter. Only those newer big green box looking "padmount-transformers" seem to have a meter around here.
There will be a current transformer at the distribution point that feeds that circuit.(high voltage side).
 

Bubblegum31

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Here ya go:
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This is like what's at my house:
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This is how the newer ones look:
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Those boxes distrbutes to more than one home.. When they make the check the EPES will disconnect everything behind it..

They will know that there is energy loss but they cant know (where) till they make checks on those boxes to know which block or houses using high amounts of power.

When they have high reading in a box, they will search all the Appartments/ homes that is being feed by this box...

If no high reading cames out of that box they will move to the next box..
 

Bubblegum31

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Do you know any place that sell this in USA?. thanks

I believe they only can do that kind of check when there is only one house connected in the transformer, in USA they use to connect 5 to 6 houses to one transformer.
Its no probleem..

Here each building have his own box.
 
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