Just curious!

alley.walker

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Indoor growers say that there is to be no light at all during dark hours. How do outdoor growers deal with that with car headlights, city or urban lighting or night time feedings with a flashlight??
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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I think for the most part those are all things that outside growers try to avoid. But I see where you are going with this. In the real world, light interruption is nearly impossible to avoid. So why do ppl come to the assumption that it causes significant problems?
 

alley.walker

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I think for the most part those are all things that outside growers try to avoid. But I see where you are going with this. In the real world, light interruption is nearly impossible to avoid. So why do ppl come to the assumption that it causes significant problems?
Exactly!! Is it that big of a deal?
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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personally I don't believe so. I could maybe understand how light interruption during the day could have a negative impact. Or major lighting schedule fluctuation but, uninterrupted darkness just seems hard to believe.
 

SenorBrownWater

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it's all about cycles...the sun is bright...the night is darker...even with,streetlights,head lights..
the plants can tell that it's darker @ night....

also srog your old "bad apple" avatar was better...:leaf:
 

xsavier

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I just have to pitch in my 2 cents on the subject because Im a guy on the fence myself!!! They say that light, wind "fans", Temps, etc put a toll on things. Well in my head I'm thinking ok if I was to do this outside one day its 55 the next 72 and then 85+. With the lights "dark period" there are headlights, street lights, flash lights, but most of all the moon. Then they say blow a fan across your plant to prevent bugs and sturdy the stem, what if theres no wind for 3 weeks. Lets not forget about the people you hear saying dont get to much water on your leaves/buds "other than a light mist" what about when it rains. Well I think what myself and the OP are trying to state is....... By following the guidelines of indoor growers you are giving it a research lab conditions concluding growing conditions at 100%, but your plants will still grow in different conditions just not at their full potential. Theres also things to look at when buying seeds/clones, such has what are the conditions of your grow room or enviorment and find out where the seeds/clones grow the best. Hope this helps a little!!!
 

budlover13

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I just have to pitch in my 2 cents on the subject because Im a guy on the fence myself!!! They say that light, wind "fans", Temps, etc put a toll on things. Well in my head I'm thinking ok if I was to do this outside one day its 55 the next 72 and then 85+. With the lights "dark period" there are headlights, street lights, flash lights, but most of all the moon. Then they say blow a fan across your plant to prevent bugs and sturdy the stem, what if theres no wind for 3 weeks. Lets not forget about the people you hear saying dont get to much water on your leaves/buds "other than a light mist" what about when it rains. Well I think what myself and the OP are trying to state is....... By following the guidelines of indoor growers you are giving it a research lab conditions concluding growing conditions at 100%, but your plants will still grow in different conditions just not at their full potential. Theres also things to look at when buying seeds/clones, such has what are the conditions of your grow room or enviorment and find out where the seeds/clones grow the best. Hope this helps a little!!!

EXACTLY! The "no light" rule comes from TRYING to give the plant the PERFECT conditions in which to grow. That being said, i know a guy who has been trying to replicate moonlight to achieve a more "natural" product (he's REAL into organics). i say "Then grow outdoors!" lol/
 

gioua

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I have been talking to God about the moon and stars light too.. He says dont worry he will take care of that soon..
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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i think its about the cycles and amount of light the plant recieves, during both light and dark cycles. for instance, say ur plant was in complete darkness during its dark cycle, for the beggining of its life, the first few weeks, and then introduced to a minimal light source outside, street light, or maybe even just the moon. since it went from having zero light recieved, to low light recieved during the dark cycle, that would interrupt its cycle. however the same plant having had the same small light source, during its dark cycle from the beginning of its life, will become accustomed to it. hope that makes sense
 

FresnoFarmer

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i think its about the cycles and amount of light the plant recieves, during both light and dark cycles. for instance, say ur plant was in complete darkness during its dark cycle, for the beggining of its life, the first few weeks, and then introduced to a minimal light source outside, street light, or maybe even just the moon. since it went from having zero light recieved, to low light recieved during the dark cycle, that would interrupt its cycle. however the same plant having had the same small light source, during its dark cycle from the beginning of its life, will become accustomed to it. hope that makes sense
I was gonna say this but the way I typed it out seemed to make no sense lol.
 

Caloran

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Man people are just so uptight and overboard in this issue. I force flower plants every year. Ive left them out for an entire day weeks into flowering. Had some small light leaks in my shed at times. Left them out for good later in the season (adding sometimes 2 hours of daylight). And guess what, 3 straight years great crop, zero hermies, zero males have yet to reveg.

Here so many people (usually not the outdoor ones) saying that plants WONT flower unless they get EXACTLY 12 hours of light/dark. Or if you leave your light on one night for an extra 17 seconds they will all reveg!

Not trying to discount everything people say, but really people are nuts about this. Nature is far from perfect and neither do we have to be.
 

BigJon

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Huge difference between indoors and outdoors. There are little subtleties that the plant picks up on outdoors that it can't indoors. Indoors HAS to be so much precise regarding the WHOLE grow from photoperiod to bugs. Outdoors is more forgiving.
 

BigJon

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Man people are just so uptight and overboard in this issue. I force flower plants every year. Ive left them out for an entire day weeks into flowering. Had some small light leaks in my shed at times. Left them out for good later in the season (adding sometimes 2 hours of daylight). And guess what, 3 straight years great crop, zero hermies, zero males have yet to reveg.

Here so many people (usually not the outdoor ones) saying that plants WONT flower unless they get EXACTLY 12 hours of light/dark. Or if you leave your light on one night for an extra 17 seconds they will all reveg!

Not trying to discount everything people say, but really people are nuts about this. Nature is far from perfect and neither do we have to be.
I think the hermie myth must have been perpetuated in the 70s and 80s. Growers were learning all they can about indoors at the time using unstable Mexican or Columbian genetics that will give you hermies no matter what. Just my theory.
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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Man people are just so uptight and overboard in this issue. I force flower plants every year. Ive left them out for an entire day weeks into flowering. Had some small light leaks in my shed at times. Left them out for good later in the season (adding sometimes 2 hours of daylight). And guess what, 3 straight years great crop, zero hermies, zero males have yet to reveg.

Here so many people (usually not the outdoor ones) saying that plants WONT flower unless they get EXACTLY 12 hours of light/dark. Or if you leave your light on one night for an extra 17 seconds they will all reveg!

Not trying to discount everything people say, but really people are nuts about this. Nature is far from perfect and neither do we have to be.
well idk how u did that, this is the first year i force flowerered, had a pretty regular cycle, put away around 4:30 pull out after sunset, and there was literally 2 days i was late to cover them, one day 4 hrs late, the next 2, and then it was back to the regular cycle, and i had three out of 5 of them herm, with 2 of them start revegging. so its not all bullshit, some strains are just more photo sensitive than others,
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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Huge difference between indoors and outdoors. There are little subtleties that the plant picks up on outdoors that it can't indoors. Indoors HAS to be so much precise regarding the WHOLE grow from photoperiod to bugs. Outdoors is more forgiving.
outdoor plants flower due to decreasing light hrs and also a lower light spectrum that the late summer/fall puts off. outdoor plants the light hrs are always changing little by little, going up in the first part of its life, and then down little by little, for the remainder of its life. i dnt think u so much need the strict cycle, it'd just be a pain having to have a timer gradually change, or have to adjust it every week to gradually go down, it could be done, but its alot easier to have the 18/6 or 16/8, all through veg, and then just have a 4-6 hr drop in overall light hrs recieved to trigger flower. remember, indoor gardeneing is trying to replicate an ideal outdoor enviroment as best as possible. replicating outdoor light cycles exactly would be difficult, and why we do the 18/6, 12/12 thing
 
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