John Evans' Bountea

hey guys, going back to soil after a few problems with hydro. tons of issues with the equipment, bacteria, rockwool, etc.. i tried it and i'm gonna keep fiddling around with it but the big floer room is switching back to soil. gonna be testing out a couple mixes for medium until i see which one works best. trying out sunshine #4 and worm castings (my old favorite), sunshine with 30% coco, and straight coco.

anyway, i've decided to start using bountea by john evans. specifically his humisoil, bioactivator, and the m3 for veg and b3 for bloom. i have a friend who uses this recipe and he gets amazing results. he uses a "tea, feed, tea, feed, water..." schedule so i think i am going to follow that. i will be using house and garden soil a&b and coco a&b for the feedings. just wanted to see what you guys thought and if anyone else has experience using john's teas. any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

This is the huge pumpkin huge everything guy with his tea garden in alaska right? If so, I've been wanting to try it myself and ask the same questions!

hea, that's him. his stuff really isn't that expensive at all. my buddy uses the humisoil and the bioactivator only. he says maybe 1 box of b3 for every 4 harvest. when you look at the prices on the stuff it's not bad at all. he's doing 80 plants too. he doesn't use the m3 cause he's only in veg for 2-3 weeks. i'm gonna try it out cause i veg a little longer. you basically make the tea and then dilute it in water. he does enough tea for all 80 plants in 1 5gallon bucket. the results are amazing. apart from that guys crazy vegetables my buddy has the best smoke i have ever had. hands down. just really great shit and his plants are always so healthy looking.

Starting to doubt the validity of this "Organics" section. Has no one really ever heard of this stuff? I may have to quit RIU if no one responds. Could be a sign of the lack of actual knowledge here.

I thought this stuff was all the rage in northern cali. guess my boy was WAY off.

Yea that guy rocks, he is like the one of the god fathers of tea.....I think everyone knows about him............... I would like to know GH's Ancient Forest is from the same deposites as Humisoil.

yea, he grows some crazy veggies. trying to get some input on his additives and stuff but no one seems to use him in this forum. never tried out ancient forest. have you? do you use it as a tea or amendment to the soil?

They are humate deposite products.....yes, i use, they are good to brew and amend to ur soil.......They claim lots of microbials but it's ancient shit. I still also add compost and castings tho.

Ancient Forest is a General Organics product, no?

Yes it's General Organics, same company tho as GH.......

InfidelUniversity said:

Yes it's General Organics, same company tho as GH.......

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Right. I guess I'm just confused, I thought it was being referred to as a Bountea product. Carry on.

Was talking about ancient forest vs. humisoil.......Might be the same humus deposites..............

InfidelUniversity said:

Was talking about ancient forest vs. humisoil.......Might be the same humus deposites..............

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Oh oh oh! That fact escaped me. I'm interested, as the Ancient Forest is really just peat. It's loaded with microlife, but I read a study a while back showing microscope slides of the beneficial fungi in AF vs straight peat moss and there was virtually no difference. Now having said that, I'm still using AF but only until my current supply runs out (I overbought). I am curious to know how folks do with the humisoil though, not sure what it's composed of...

All these just seem like products with fancy websites...

I am confident that I could make a tea just as good, without spending...$24.99 for each 12 gallons of tea I brew.

If you have a worm bin, and half-way decent backyard composting system, you could make thousands of gallons of tea virtually for free...with some know how, an air pump and a bucket.

All this hype about inoculants and bacteria is just because science is catching up with folk organic technology, and most of these "must have, wonder inoculants" are just ordinary parts of a healthy compost pile. Science is just now realizing that these are actually worth paying attention to, and more and more products and people to capitalize on this "new" information.

Rising Moon said:

All these just seem like products with fancy websites...

I am confident that I could make a tea just as good, without spending...$24.99 for each 12 gallons of tea I brew.

If you have a worm bin, and half-way decent backyard composting system, you could make thousands of gallons of tea virtually for free...with some know how, an air pump and a bucket.

All this hype about inoculants and bacteria is just because science is catching up with folk organic technology, and most of these "must have, wonder inoculants" are just ordinary parts of a healthy compost pile. Science is just now realizing that these are actually worth paying attention to, and more and more products and people to capitalize on this "new" information.

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You're absolutely right, and the finished product will almost always be superior to store bought (provided it's properly made). The thing for me is time, I don't haz it, so I compromise.

Rising Moon said:

All these just seem like products with fancy websites...

I am confident that I could make a tea just as good, without spending...$24.99 for each 12 gallons of tea I brew.

If you have a worm bin, and half-way decent backyard composting system, you could make thousands of gallons of tea virtually for free...with some know how, an air pump and a bucket.

All this hype about inoculants and bacteria is just because science is catching up with folk organic technology, and most of these "must have, wonder inoculants" are just ordinary parts of a healthy compost pile. Science is just now realizing that these are actually worth paying attention to, and more and more products and people to capitalize on this "new" information.

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He use to be pretty small time, his teas have gotten a bit pricey....

Wolverine97 said:

Oh oh oh! That fact escaped me. I'm interested, as the Ancient Forest is really just peat. It's loaded with microlife, but I read a study a while back showing microscope slides of the beneficial fungi in AF vs straight peat moss and there was virtually no difference. Now having said that, I'm still using AF but only until my current supply runs out (I overbought). I am curious to know how folks do with the humisoil though, not sure what it's composed of...

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Yea I was thinking they weren't to great in microbes but was just guessing............. Great for "leaching" humates out off....I think thats the kicker!?!

I just ordered his bucket since my own homemade ones are not living up to microbial standards. However, with good vermicompost from bokashi-fed red worms and a swig of molasses, a handful of alfalfa meal and a capful of thrivealive I fully intend NOT to buy his products. Besides the crazy savings of making my own tea formulas, why are we using fossil fuels to make something we have in our areas locally?

singingcrow said:

I just ordered his bucket since my own homemade ones are not living up to microbial standards. However, with good vermicompost from bokashi-fed red worms and a swig of molasses, a handful of alfalfa meal and a capful of thrivealive I fully intend NOT to buy his products. Besides the crazy savings of making my own tea formulas, why are we using fossil fuels to make something we have in our areas locally?

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for the same reason i don't have cows on my property and make my own milk. just don't have the time to do everything. the alska humisoil and bioactivator costs me like $100 to run an entire crop of 18 plants. seems pretty reasonable to me. also saves me money on nutes so it's basically free. doesn't sound like overpriced at all.

nuglets said:

for the same reason i don't have cows on my property and make my own milk. just don't have the time to everything. the alska humisoil and bioavtivator costs me like $100 to run an entire crop of 18 plants. seems pretty reasonable to me. also saves me money on nutes so it's basically free. doesn't sound like overpriced at all.

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Yeah, if it is not convenient, then sure, that's a good point for buying the ingredients. But just one thing: even in an apartment, a tupperware full of vermicompost, a bottle of molasses and a ziploc bag full of humic acid or alfalfa meal is on hand, no? You might just be able to whip up your batch of one of the recipes here for, maybe $1 or less. But that's only if you have the desire, otherwise the price is a small one for convenience when you factor it like you did for your needs.