Joe Biden announces he is running for president in 2020

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
there ya go...divide yourselves...save trump the trouble...vote for buttiegieg....harris....orourke...cruz...sanders...warren...booker...gillibrand....while the fucking republicans are voting for trump...all of them...
so don't get behind an electable candidate, hand the republicans 4 more years of fuckery...then we can have 4 more years of listening to smart mouth trumptard cocksuckers yelling MAGA!.....
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We're gonna get fucked in 2020.
I've never seen such a divisive Democratic party in my life.
One BIG factor in the GOP, is they vote as a block (Trump has an over 90% favorability rating amongst Republicans), and that is deadly.
Democrats are all over the spectrum, from Biden, to Sanders, to Harris, and now to Buttigieg
Gotta come down from the clouds and simply win, and not scare people into thinking that the Dem's are a bunch of Crazies bent on installing Socialism as a way of life in America.
1st win, then make changes.
 
Herb & Suds

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Jimdamick said:
We're gonna get fucked in 2020.
I've never seen such a divisive Democratic party in my life.
One BIG factor in the GOP, is they vote as a block (Trump has an over 90% favorability rating amongst Republicans), and that is deadly.
Democrats are all over the spectrum, from Biden, to Sanders, to Harris, and now to Buttigieg
Gotta come down from the clouds and simply win, and not scare people into thinking that the Dem's are a bunch of Crazies bent on installing Socialism as a way of life in America.
1st win, then make changes.
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Easy Jim
We have nearly two years and umpteen debates before we have to choose
 
Fogdog

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Jimdamick said:
We're gonna get fucked in 2020.
I've never seen such a divisive Democratic party in my life.
One BIG factor in the GOP, is they vote as a block (Trump has an over 90% favorability rating amongst Republicans), and that is deadly.
Democrats are all over the spectrum, from Biden, to Sanders, to Harris, and now to Buttigieg
Gotta come down from the clouds and simply win, and not scare people into thinking that the Dem's are a bunch of Crazies bent on installing Socialism as a way of life in America.
1st win, then make changes.
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May we please have our primary before we rally around our candidate?
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Herb & Suds said:
Easy Jim
We have nearly two years and umpteen debates before we have to choose
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I just had a bad feeling about Trump being elected the 1st time, and my nightmare became true.
Now with the young Progressives demanding that the DNC dance to their tune or they will revolt, I have that same bad taste in my mouth.
I feel their demanding too much, too soon, and that will be downfall of the Dems in 2020.
I'm an old hippie that has been demanding change for over 50 fucking years, and SLOWLY I have seen change in the right direction, but slowly is better than none, and if AOC and her friends get their way, we ain't going to move a fucking inch further because the MAJORITY of Americans don't agree with their platform.
Liberal/Progressive Dems (I'm one) are a minority even in the Democratic Party, and they want to call the shots for the direction of the DNC?
Sit the fuck down, and learn how things really work in this country, because no matter how noble the intentions, they still have to deal with a society full of half wits, that are happy being fucked over, and that's why Trump is in the WH.
In a way, Sanders and his crew are the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic party, because until my dying day, I will blame them for Clinton's loss, not the Russians.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Jimdamick said:
I just had a bad feeling about Trump being elected the 1st time, and my nightmare became true.
Now with the young Progressives demanding that the DNC dance to their tune or they will revolt, I have that same bad taste in my mouth.
I feel their demanding too much, too soon, and that will be downfall of the Dems in 2020.
I'm an old hippie that has been demanding change for over 50 fucking years, and SLOWLY I have seen change in the right direction, but slowly is better than none, and if AOC and her friends get their way, we ain't going to move a fucking inch further because the MAJORITY of Americans don't agree with their platform.
Liberal/Progressive Dems (I'm one) are a minority even in the Democratic Party, and they want to call the shots for the direction of the DNC?
Sit the fuck down, and learn how things really work in this country, because no matter how noble the intentions, they still have to deal with a society full of half wits, that are happy being fucked over, and that's why Trump is in the WH.
In a way, Sanders and his crew are the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic party, because until my dying day, I will blame them for Clinton's loss, not the Russians.
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i blame not only the russians and the democrats, i blame the American people for being stupid enough to ever allow trump on the ticket
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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kelly4 said:
If Joe had run in 2016, he would already be president.


But, it was Hillary’s turn.
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He/she should have won, but as history shows us, Americana never votes in Democrats for consecutive terms.
We seemingly forget who actually puts us in a shit show, then elect a Dem to bail us out, he does that, then they elect another Pub who inevitably fucks shit up again, then they elect a Dem again, and the sad story goes on, and on, and on.
So, history teaches me, that Trump will be re-elected.
So sad, but historically a fact.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i blame not only the russians and the democrats, i blame the American people for being stupid enough to ever allow trump on the ticket
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You know why he was elected?
Because of the "un-educated" who watched "The Apprentice" endlessly, and loved watching the guy abuse people, and the wealthy who were expecting more rewards from the GOP for being who they are, and they ALL got what they wished for.
Funny huh, that the poorest of the poor (average Red State), and the richest of the rich, get to jump into the same bed with Trump and play with each other, while the country burns down around them.
Almost unbelievable, but it is a sad fact in Trump World.
 
Herb & Suds

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Jimdamick said:
You know why he was elected?
Because of the "un-educated" who watched "The Apprentice" endlessly, and loved watching the guy abuse people, and the wealthy who were expecting more rewards from the GOP for being who they are, and they ALL got what they wished for.
Funny huh, that the poorest of the poor (average Red State), and the richest of the rich, get to jump into the same bed with Trump and play with each other, while the country burns down around them.
Almost unbelievable, but it is a sad fact in Trump World.
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Here is some good news
His "accomplishments " beyond court appointees are all fixable via Executive order as that as how he created them
But the debt from tax breaks for the wealthy and relationships with our allies are going to require a politician looking out for America not themselves
I see it happening
Tuck Frump
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Herb & Suds said:
But the debt from tax breaks for the wealthy and relationships with our allies
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The Debt is never going away, that is an unfortunate fact for my children, and as far as our previous allies/partners go in trusting the USA not to elect another fool who will set out to actually destroy them, well, that also is a lesson well learned now, and they will never count on America for guidance again. They're on their own, and they know it now (except for Israel)
 
Unclebaldrick

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Jimdamick said:
But he loves a divided Democratic Party even more, and I'll bet he's pretty fucking happy right now.
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Did you catch the NYT stories about how Krtlstjen Neilsen was told by Trump's COS not to tell the President about Russia's increasing efforts to attack the US during the 2020 election season? She could not speak of it in his presence.

Fucking sad. They are penetrating our infrastructure and the President can't know or hell get angry about the implications on his office.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/russia-2020-election-trump.amp.html
 
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Fogdog

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Jimdamick said:
I just had a bad feeling about Trump being elected the 1st time, and my nightmare became true.
Now with the young Progressives demanding that the DNC dance to their tune or they will revolt, I have that same bad taste in my mouth.
I feel their demanding too much, too soon, and that will be downfall of the Dems in 2020.
I'm an old hippie that has been demanding change for over 50 fucking years, and SLOWLY I have seen change in the right direction, but slowly is better than none, and if AOC and her friends get their way, we ain't going to move a fucking inch further because the MAJORITY of Americans don't agree with their platform.
Liberal/Progressive Dems (I'm one) are a minority even in the Democratic Party, and they want to call the shots for the direction of the DNC?
Sit the fuck down, and learn how things really work in this country, because no matter how noble the intentions, they still have to deal with a society full of half wits, that are happy being fucked over, and that's why Trump is in the WH.
In a way, Sanders and his crew are the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic party, because until my dying day, I will blame them for Clinton's loss, not the Russians.
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Sanders voters stuck with the Democratic Candidate in 2016 at a much higher rate (90%) compared to Clinton voters in 2008 (85%)

We will rally around our candidate in July, 2020 and not before then.

Getting back to Biden.

What has he done in the past 10 years that makes him worthy of my vote? What policies or actions has he implemented that shows he's going to be a good Democratic Party's president?
 
Bugeye

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Democrats will come together over whoever the candidate is so long as a brokered convention does not occur. If superdelegates were to go against the popular vote again, that would be bad. Superdelegates sound good on paper but are elitist BS in reality.
 
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