its focked already...so why not fock it some more

gb123

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Facility in Fenwick, Ont., on Tuesday, June 26, 2018. (Tijana Martin/CP)


Kate Robertson has covered Canada’s cannabis industry for three years. She has written for the Globe and Mail, The Guardian, NOW Magazine, as well as cannabis-focused publications such as Leafly and Weedmaps.

Conservative pundits are already blaming Justin Trudeau’s Liberals for the latest scandal to hit Canada’s burgeoning cannabis industry. After a whistleblower tipped off Health Canada that Ontario-based CannTrust had grown cannabis plants in unlicensed rooms, a Globe and Mail investigation indicates that company executives were not only aware of the situation since last fall, some of them suspiciously sold off $6 million in shares the same day the chairman was notified of the unlicensed grow. Insider trading, in other words.

“The legalization of cannabis for adult recreational use was an opportunistic, ill-considered, policy by the Liberals,” wrote Financial Post columnist Diane Francis on July 30. “Corporations went public in haste, and this first scandal should make investors cautious.”

Sorry, but it’s way too late for investor caution. Thousands of Canadians, many of whom have never and will never even try cannabis—people like my electrician and my next-door neighbours—have invested their hard-earned coin in Canadian weed companies, convinced by mainstream media and [mostly] men in suits that the industry is a legitimate one.

MORE: The reason that cannabis is now legal in Canada

Scandals like CannTrust’s—along with OrganiGram, Bonify, Aphria, Agrima, and yes, Canopy Growth—affect a lot of Canadians. They, along with the sizable and sophisticated illicit market, are solid ammunition to direct at the Liberal party.

Conservative leader Andrew Scheer has walked back statements he made last year about re-criminalizing cannabis (likely from pressure from the numerous members of the weed world that are card-carrying Cons), the last thing the industry desires is more regulatory oversight and expensive rules to comply by.

What’s not too late is for Conservatives to politicize challenges with the Liberals’ weed plan in this October’s election and pitch radical changes to the program.

But what, exactly, would Andrew Scheer’s team do with the already highly regulated, very-expensive-to-comply-with Cannabis Act and Health Canada regulations? As it turns out, mandating that a camera needs to record and account for every single centimetre of a licensed grow room doesn’t prevent bad behaviour.

If not more compliance, then what? Harsher penalties for offenders? I don’t agree Trudeau is to blame here. Instead, we need to ensure that the consequences for offenses are consistent and fair.

MORE: Cannabis is legal. Now about those pardons for pot possession?

The weed community tends to loathe any kind of criminalization associated with cannabis, but we’ll be watching two things very closely: how authorities deal with legal cannabis market offenders and how they compare to those who make parallel offences in the illicit market; and how an insider trading scandal in the weed industry is dealt with compared to other insider trading scandals in other industries.

How authorities proceed should send a warning to the industry to follow securities law and the Cannabis Act while also protecting shareholder interests. That’s a delicate balance, and will likely create another unfair schism between the black and legal markets: public, legal companies are already facing fewer and less harsh consequences to the same offences under the Cannabis Act seemingly for that reason.

On July 29, Toronto Police charged a 37-year-old for possessing one gram of illicit cannabis outside a dispensary while three executives at Winnipeg-based Bonify did not face any criminal charges after it was alleged that 200 kg of illicit product was purchased to resell to medical consumers. Instead, they lost their jobs and the company’s licence was suspended.

A National Post report revealed that the RCMP chose to keep an illicit cannabis seizure “of unfathomable quantity” on a Canopy Growth plane a secret. Why? Partly out of concern for how the company’s shareholders would be impacted, according to documents.

MORE: The Maclean’s Quiz: How much do you know about cannabis?

As for everyone in Canadian cannabis, please try to remember that you wouldn’t exist without people investing in you. Most public cannabis companies are “pre-revenue.” Their operations, salaries, the flights to panel discussions at pricey, international conferences, and the coveted free swag that consumers are collecting? It’s funded by shareholders, many of whom just lost a huge chunk of dough gambling on you.

The reported actions by CannTrust executives have let them down most of all and should be sobering news to the cannabis industry. Stop worrying so much about pushing the envelope or not being the most egregious offender—think long-term, not short-term, and learn to grow stellar, regulated bud. That will win us over.
 

gb123

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the black and legal markets: public, legal companies are already facing fewer and less harsh consequences to the same offences under the Cannabis Act seemingly for that reason.

37-year-old for possessing one gram of illicit cannabis outside a dispensary while three executives at Winnipeg-based Bonify did not face any criminal charges after it was alleged that 200 kg of illicit product
 

gb123

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A National Post report revealed that the RCMP chose to keep an illicit cannabis seizure “of unfathomable quantity” on a Canopy Growth plane a secret. Why? Partly out of concern for how the company’s shareholders would be impacted, according to documents.
 

gb123

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As for everyone in Canadian cannabis, please try to remember that you wouldn’t exist without people investing in you.(:8):idea::hump::clap:
 

Jefferson1977

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HAH who was it saying Scheer and the cons would re criminalize? Looks like they realized you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once it's out. Common sense prevails, go figure..........:bigjoint:
True, but I bet they have ideas to make it so its almost impossible to grow and harder to buy or sell. And they could nix personal 4 plants under a variety of guises. Basically they could make it legal but impossible to get from legal sources, kinda like it is now but worse. Voted cons quite a bit but not this time, won't be voting liberal either. Going with Maxime. At least I know he is pro legalization with minimal government interference (even if he stands no chance of winning maybe they will get some seats). It's also who Mark Emery is backing not that that means anything in particular.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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True, but I bet they have ideas to make it so its almost impossible to grow and harder to buy or sell. And they could nix personal 4 plants under a variety of guises. Basically they could make it legal but impossible to get from legal sources, kinda like it is now but worse. Voted cons quite a bit but not this time, won't be voting liberal either. Going with Maxime. At least I know he is pro legalization with minimal government interference (even if he stands no chance of winning maybe they will get some seats). It's also who Mark Emery is backing not that that means anything in particular.
I agree with everything except Bernier - that guy is fucking scary! Fortunately his party will be a one-and-done. None of the parties or their leaders do anything for me or legalization, so I think I'm voting Green this time. Can't be any worse than the others.
I'm positive the CPC will attempt to re-criminalize many aspects of cannabis law if elected - after their performance in the House for a year, how could they not? We'll see harsher driving laws, age limits raised to 21 or 25, no home grows, no sharing, no consumption outside of your home, etc, etc. imo. Scheer 'walked back' what he said because he was getting flak - it doesn't mean he's actually changed his mind and he's lied to us before.... Hopefully we never get the opportunity to find out.
 

CalyxCrusher

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True, but I bet they have ideas to make it so its almost impossible to grow and harder to buy or sell. And they could nix personal 4 plants under a variety of guises. Basically they could make it legal but impossible to get from legal sources, kinda like it is now but worse. Voted cons quite a bit but not this time, won't be voting liberal either. Going with Maxime. At least I know he is pro legalization with minimal government interference (even if he stands no chance of winning maybe they will get some seats). It's also who Mark Emery is backing not that that means anything in particular.
Possible? Technically. Likely? Not very. It's definitely going to be an interesting election that's for sure.
 

GreenHighlander

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True, but I bet they have ideas to make it so its almost impossible to grow and harder to buy or sell. And they could nix personal 4 plants under a variety of guises. Basically they could make it legal but impossible to get from legal sources, kinda like it is now but worse. Voted cons quite a bit but not this time, won't be voting liberal either. Going with Maxime. At least I know he is pro legalization with minimal government interference (even if he stands no chance of winning maybe they will get some seats). It's also who Mark Emery is backing not that that means anything in particular.
If Emery is backing him that is all the reason I need not to. I also don't kid myself into thinking any sack of shit in a suit gives a fuck. Fuck each and everyone of them, no matter what color they claim.

Cheers :)
 

Jefferson1977

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I agree with everything except Bernier - that guy is fucking scary! Fortunately his party will be a one-and-done. None of the parties or their leaders do anything for me or legalization, so I think I'm voting Green this time. Can't be any worse than the others.
I'm positive the CPC will attempt to re-criminalize many aspects of cannabis law if elected - after their performance in the House for a year, how could they not? We'll see harsher driving laws, age limits raised to 21 or 25, no home grows, no sharing, no consumption outside of your home, etc, etc. imo. Scheer 'walked back' what he said because he was getting flak - it doesn't mean he's actually changed his mind and he's lied to us before.... Hopefully we never get the opportunity to find out.
I get Bernier can seem scary to people who are left leaning....but free market small government people would like his platform.
 

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VIANARCHRIS

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I get Bernier can seem scary to people who are left leaning....but free market small government people would like his platform.
He was happy collecting a paycheque as part of the weed-ophobic government he belonged to before he split. Either he was lying and fear-mongering then, or he's lying about his sudden reversal now. Don't trust him. Besides...NO MORE PM"S FROM QUEBEC! lol
 

The Hippy

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How about this from that story..

" Thousands of Canadians, many of whom have never and will never even try cannabis—people like my electrician and my next-door neighbours—have invested their hard-earned coin in Canadian weed companies, convinced by mainstream media and [mostly] men in suits that the industry is a legitimate one. "

And I hope they all lose their shirts and pants.

Ya these are the same assholes who looked down their noses at us weed smokes. You know making jokes about us when we would go for a doob or whatever. While they stay inside getting pissed.
Anyways these fucktards figured we were good to make a few dollars on eh. NOT !!!! Locked out by us and our culture. Thought we were a waiting gold mine for the taking huh? Not so fast straight dick wads.
Go to hell you fucking jerks. You should have embraced us years ago. Instead of all the stoner stigma we had to endure.
I laughed and laughed and laughed at all the pain they must be feeling..and worry. So sweet.
Jail the LP executives I say.
 

gb123

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How about this from that story..

" Thousands of Canadians, many of whom have never and will never even try cannabis—people like my electrician and my next-door neighbours—have invested their hard-earned coin in Canadian weed companies, convinced by mainstream media and [mostly] men in suits that the industry is a legitimate one. "

And I hope they all lose their shirts and pants.

Ya these are the same assholes who looked down their noses at us weed smokes. You know making jokes about us when we would go for a doob or whatever. While they stay inside getting pissed.
Anyways these fucktards figured we were good to make a few dollars on eh. NOT !!!! Locked out by us and our culture. Thought we were a waiting gold mine for the taking huh? Not so fast straight dick wads.
Go to hell you fucking jerks. You should have embraced us years ago. Instead of all the stoner stigma we had to endure.
I laughed and laughed and laughed at all the pain they must be feeling..and worry. So sweet.
Jail the LP executives I say.
Im that electrician and I didnt lose one penny because Im not dumb enough to invest in a losing business........................ Cannada style ..
you win some and you lose some...
If yer not smart enough to see a bubble and know it.. tough shit. Ive seen many cryin about their losses :weed:
investing in CORRUPT ORGANIZED GOVERNMENT CRIME will only see you lose :idea::hump:

The Media is clearly not informed.
 
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