Issues with dyna-gro.

srfjay

srfjay

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I am on my first run with dyna-gro and so far so good. But I have noticed that my new gallon jug of bloom has a lot of solids in after about a month of purchase. it does say on the bottle that if it freezes you can mix 50/50 with water and run double strength. But the room it is in never gets below 50 degrees.
Anyone else have this issue? Kind of a let down after reading some good stuff about dyna-gro. After years of growing never had this issue with other company's.
 
Izoc666

Izoc666

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oh yeah its called precipitates. It doesnt affect any performance for sure...its perfect fine with Bloom product that you can still feed your plants :)

You can always call Dyna Gro for tech support, they will glad to explain you depth of precipitates. You shouldnt worry about it, buddy.

happy gardening.
 
eDude

eDude

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HB, you should sit on on this..

What's happened is called precipitation. This can happen with 'one' part liquid foods. You can take it back and get a new bottle. If they give you any shit call the company. Once precipitates are formed it's all down hill. It's a chain reaction. You can't dilute precipitates just like you can't remix set cement. Elements are being lost and not available to your plants. You paid for those, you should get those.

If you can, take it back. The maker will gladly get you a new one.
 
srfjay

srfjay

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That is what I was thinking. You figure you pay a good amount of money to know exactly what is going in your solution That it would be a little more stable.. So by it crystalizing I am losing some important minerals and changing the NPK ratio, or so I would assume.
Not sure if I should be upset with dyna-gro or the shop that sold it to me.
 
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SSHZ

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I think exposure to light and certain temperature conditions lead to the solution precipitating......... watch, they'll claim it was your fault. You should move on a "cleaner" fertilizer, maybe GH or Botanicare. I have never had this kind of problem with either of these...
 
srfjay

srfjay

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I have used a couple fert's over the last couple years and not had this issue. Now to be fair it is only a issue in the bloom for whatever reason. And looking around online it seems like others are having the same issue with the bloom.
Guess I will give dyna-gro a call. Just hoping they don't tell me that 50/50 dilute awnser , because to me that is not acceptable.
 
Milovan

Milovan

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dyna grow works very well for plants and
i get some precipitation but very little.
probably not a factory mistake
i get this with ff grow big and cal/mag containers also.
i think it is storing conditions that cause this
precipitation.
 
srfjay

srfjay

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Ok so what I did was pour out the bottle into glass jars then the very last jar was full of precipitates. So I warmed it up and mixed it well. Seemed to work for the most part. So I guess time will tell if it worked. Still hoping dyna-gro works out .
 
eDude

eDude

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srfjay said:
That is what I was thinking. You figure you pay a good amount of money to know exactly what is going in your solution That it would be a little more stable.. So by it crystalizing I am losing some important minerals and changing the NPK ratio, or so I would assume.
Not sure if I should be upset with dyna-gro or the shop that sold it to me.
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Not super important.. and not a lot but.. I know that DG is a good company and they don't want you to not like it. A good hydro store will work with you too.

What's happening is that it's making chalk or drywall out of the Ca and sulfates.
 
inhaleindica

inhaleindica

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SSHZ said:
I think exposure to light and certain temperature conditions lead to the solution precipitating......... watch, they'll claim it was your fault. You should move on a "cleaner" fertilizer, maybe GH or Botanicare. I have never had this kind of problem with either of these...
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You calling GH "cleaner"? Shit, lol. I don't for a min disagree about Botanicare, but GH??? I don't know about that. I am a big Dyna-gro user and a lot of top growers around use Dyna Gro. I get fantastic results and much better yield with Dyna-gro than I get from FF. I have no experience with GH but have smoked few that were grown with GH. Botanicare CNS17 is bullshit. What about PBP? Dyna-gro is much cost effective. A little goes a long way.

Take the bottle back to the vendor or call the company to talk about the crystalizing.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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I've had the precipitate issue with only a few bottles of bloom. It's from improper storage which means the distributor is probably to blame (unless your hydro store's backroom is so big that they can't afford temp control). You might want to call DG and ask them if the 50's is 'proper storage'. This could be your fault.

Before I buy a bottle of bloom, I turn it upside down and listen for chunks. Before I use a bottle of bloom, I measure its potency by taking 5mls and adding it to 1 gallon of RO, then I'll divide by 5. That gives me the ppm contribution of 1ml which should be in the 120's (.7 scale). I've used bottles as low as 90ppm and I've had bottles with zero precipitate that measured 125ppm. My plants did great either way but from a cost perspective, I want minimal precipitate. I'd suggest you measure yours.

In regards to 'cleaner' formulas, well GH definitely isn't. I never had any precipitation with GH but it's a salty formula. Given the same feeding levels, I'd get salt buildup on my pumps, on the sides of my res, and the tops of the GH bottles would be pretty crusty by the time I was done with them. Salts would also buildup to a greater degree in my rockwool which was measured when I leached my medium. The GH 3part is a good plant food choice but H&G and DG are a lot less salty.

EDIT: If the precipitate bothers you, don't use their bloom formula any more. I rarely use bloom in promix and I'm currently running a 'no bloom' grow in hydro by only using the 7-9-5 Grow formula. While it's too early to tell if the lower lower phosphorus levels will affect overall yield, the plants could not be any healthier here at week 3.
 
eDude

eDude

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homebrewer said:
I'm currently running a 'no bloom' grow in hydro by only using the 7-9-5 Grow formula. While it's too early to tell if the lower lower phosphorus levels will affect overall yield, the plants could not be any healthier here at week 3.
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I predict that you will have lower yields. Just wanted to be on the record for this. :eyesmoke:
 
Izoc666

Izoc666

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I love this 7-9-5 its grow/bloom in one bottle and it got complete food along with Pro-Tekt, from start to finish, i got more yields than 3 part GH, Botaincare, or even organic..it will unlock the gene to the maxium and the result is highest quality. I rather have quality over quanity , but this is my perosnal meds that im looking for finest bud, flavor, aroma, and of course potency.

Its ultimate K.I.S.S. with this DG products, IMHO.


any non DG food plant that works great for you, then its all good ! :)

happy gardening
 
srfjay

srfjay

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homebrewer said:
I've had the precipitate issue with only a few bottles of bloom. It's from improper storage which means the distributor is probably to blame (unless your hydro store's backroom is so big that they can't afford temp control). You might want to call DG and ask them if the 50's is 'proper storage'. This could be your fault.

Before I buy a bottle of bloom, I turn it upside down and listen for chunks. Before I use a bottle of bloom, I measure its potency by taking 5mls and adding it to 1 gallon of RO, then I'll divide by 5. That gives me the ppm contribution of 1ml which should be in the 120's (.7 scale). I've used bottles as low as 90ppm and I've had bottles with zero precipitate that measured 125ppm. My plants did great either way but from a cost perspective, I want minimal precipitate. I'd suggest you measure yours.

In regards to 'cleaner' formulas, well GH definitely isn't. I never had any precipitation with GH but it's a salty formula. Given the same feeding levels, I'd get salt buildup on my pumps, on the sides of my res, and the tops of the GH bottles would be pretty crusty by the time I was done with them. Salts would also buildup to a greater degree in my rockwool which was measured when I leached my medium. The GH 3part is a good plant food choice but H&G and DG are a lot less salty.

EDIT: If the precipitate bothers you, don't use their bloom formula any more. I rarely use bloom in promix and I'm currently running a 'no bloom' grow in hydro by only using the 7-9-5 Grow formula. While it's too early to tell if the lower lower phosphorus levels will affect overall yield, the plants could not be any healthier here at week 3.
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What up HB, you are one of the main reason I wanted to test out DYNA. And when I say 50 degrees. That means that is the lowest it could get but never got there almost always around 70. And the gallon test sounds like a good idea the problem I see with it is not that I don't have enough ppm but that I can't calculate what I am missing out of that ratio. It might be missing some important minerals that you can't read with such a simple test.
Don't get me wrong I am not bashing Dyna-gro. It is a good product and I liked the nutrient read out on the product. Issue is I am not getting all those ingredients if they become solid. And like you said you have dealt with the issue also. And many others. So I think it is something that can be fixed with out trying to be a home chemist.
 
venacular

venacular

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homebrewer said:
I've had the precipitate issue with only a few bottles of bloom. It's from improper storage which means the distributor is probably to blame (unless your hydro store's backroom is so big that they can't afford temp control). You might want to call DG and ask them if the 50's is 'proper storage'. This could be your fault.

Before I buy a bottle of bloom, I turn it upside down and listen for chunks. Before I use a bottle of bloom, I measure its potency by taking 5mls and adding it to 1 gallon of RO, then I'll divide by 5. That gives me the ppm contribution of 1ml which should be in the 120's (.7 scale). I've used bottles as low as 90ppm and I've had bottles with zero precipitate that measured 125ppm. My plants did great either way but from a cost perspective, I want minimal precipitate. I'd suggest you measure yours.

In regards to 'cleaner' formulas, well GH definitely isn't. I never had any precipitation with GH but it's a salty formula. Given the same feeding levels, I'd get salt buildup on my pumps, on the sides of my res, and the tops of the GH bottles would be pretty crusty by the time I was done with them. Salts would also buildup to a greater degree in my rockwool which was measured when I leached my medium. The GH 3part is a good plant food choice but H&G and DG are a lot less salty.

EDIT: If the precipitate bothers you, don't use their bloom formula any more. I rarely use bloom in promix and I'm currently running a 'no bloom' grow in hydro by only using the 7-9-5 Grow formula. While it's too early to tell if the lower lower phosphorus levels will affect overall yield, the plants could not be any healthier here at week 3.
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I have also had precipitate at the end of a few bottles. Thanks for the tip to check before buying HB. I usually just mix with water before using. I don't believe losing a small amount of chemicals will make a difference as the price comes in much better than others. Also the plants which I have given "revived" precipitates showed not one adverse affect.

I have used GH flora in the past and I agree with what HB is saying about "salt buildup". It gets so thick without an everyday scrub with GH. My 3x2 DG trays have much less buildup even at the end of bloom. So i know from personal experience that GH is much worse in that department than DG.

I would like to share my personal experience with grow in bloom. I tried two separate trays during bloom (same breed) one had my normal ratios of bloom to grow and the other contained a much higher level of grow to bloom. The mostly grow tray turned out to make some huge calyx but yield was affected greatly, the tray had to be one of the healthiest I have ever seen at end days, but this is not recommended.

Over all I would suggest DG to friends as the cost is low and performance has been at least on par with other brands that I have used. I have found the Pro-tekt to be of considerable significance to my grows and I do recommended it. My breed may just benefit from it more so than others but i doubt it.
 
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