Is This Really Happening?

Read my signature, plain and simple.

"Later in his career, Anslinger was scrutinized for insubordination by refusing to desist from an attempt to halt the ABA/AMA Joint Report on narcotic addiction, a publication edited by the sociology Professor Alfred R. Lindesmith of Indiana University. Lindesmith wrote, among other works, Opiate Addiction (1947), The Addict and the Law (1965), and a number of articles condemning the criminalization of addiction. Nearly everything Lindesmith did was critical of the War on Drugs, specifically condemning Anslinger’s role. The AMA/ABA controversy is sometimes credited with ending Anslinger's position of Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics."

It cannot be said enough - addiction is a public health and safety issue, not a moral criminal one.

obama is more of a lying war hawk than jr. bush could ever hope to be. The liberals in CA must have been stoned when they voted for a cia agent. They thought they were electing change and the 1st black president. Here's news he's not black he's related to dick cheney. The word liberal was hijacked and misrepresented from the word liberty. CA can take a stand and vote for Ron Paul and liberty or vote for romney who will be more anti drugs(unless it's big pharma drugs)than bush and obama put together. Or go vote for cain and see higher taxes with his 9/9/9(666)plan. This member of the federal reserve will do what his masters tell him to do, tax slavery for all. You should also recall your governor. Elect a libertarian. That's your party. No difference between republicans and democrats.

We may have to admit the "Industry is the Cart and the Horse of legalization for all Californians" Then in California we have the Cart before the horse..

Perhaps this is a good thing? It will force us to legalize for all and not just the medical Industry types.


So who is ready and willing to organize an Initiative that legalizes "for the people" and skips Commerce?

ford442 said:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/feds-order-all-calif-medical-marijuana-outlets-to-close/1


The Obama administration has ordered all medical-marijuana dispensaries in California to shut down within 45 days or they will be prosecuted and have their property confiscated for violating federal drugs laws, the Associated Press reports.Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown. California's four U.S. attorneys plan an announcement Friday.
AP says the federal prosecutors have notified at least 16 pot shops or their landlords.

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see and that asshole said he would make it legal. how far along the road before it happends in allot of places

I'm told the ones being closed are not business modeled as non profits should be...

In case you do not head over to the Politics side of this forum. Consider going to MPP.org or Norml there is a canned letter over there you can send. I got it yesterday and sent it right away. At lease if you are going to Grouse he can at least hear it.

this makes me think about the time he laughed at the idea of legalizing mj on tv.

looks like these fuckers not only dont give a shit but are sadists too.

I am reading the phrase "not non-profit" in the articles I have read so maybe there will be a core standing left for medical.

Perhaps there is a point to the purge. Maybe many have stepped way over the line.

I do agree that prop 215 never authorized sales and that sales have become what I see rather than folks collectively growing for the most part.

Nonetheless I have no problems with a Cannabis Cafe and would very much like to see that legal in California.

Here is one article I read this morning. http://chatsworth.patch.com/articles/feds-raid-valley-pot-shop-and-charge-6-from-another-with-drug-trafficking

They say two 16 year-olds were smoking inside. What they didn't say is if they had cards.

We still have to pick through the crap reported and see the BS.

It is legal for them to have cards.

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x771640423/Feds-announce-Calif-pot-dispensary-crackdown?utm_source=widget_16&utm_medium=popular_entries_widget&utm_campaign=synapse

Another article some may read.

by closing pot shop you play right into the hands of the cartels and mafia.. is it not obvious that driving the price down is a good thing?

ihatepolice said:

If this is true im done with Obama

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stumpjumper said:

I love how so many people are just now realizing that cock-sucker lied just to get cannabis users votes. This has been evident for months! Wake the fuck up people.

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WWDave said:

Sure glad we have the first half black president out of the way. I want to pour some organic pure maple syrup on his head because he is a WAFFLE.......

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Wolfhound said:

Obummer , plain & simple, did not EVER do the right thing. No one has scammed us worse than this sham of a Prez. His political end cannot come soon enough for our country.

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hellraizer30 said:

I agree 100% cant wait for this to be over

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You guys who are complaining about Obama need to wake up! Do you really think that McCain would be better? If he (or any Republican) were elected, the dispensaries would have been shut down 2 years ago. Bush and Cheney wanted to shut them all down, but decided to only intimidate and hope it would work. Like now, the people doing this are Bushies, and they are not listening to Obama.

rollitup said:

You guys who are complaining about Obama need to wake up! Do you really think that McCain would be better? If he (or any Republican) were elected, the dispensaries would have been shut down 2 years ago. Bush and Cheney wanted to shut them all down, but decided to only intimidate and hope it would work. Like now, the people doing this are Bushies, and they are not listening to Obama.

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PM me when Obama finds out this is being done and he does something about it.

atleast bush/cheyney and mccain were upfront about their stance on this...obama has not delivered on one thing he campaigned on

This is about legalizing not the Politics forum..

I'm just saying....

From all the articles I have read, my understanding is that the only shops being closed down are the ones that aren't in COMPLETE compliance with the law. Nothing I have read so far leads me to believe all of them are getting shit down.

ihatepolice said:

If this is true im done with Obama

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Your not done with him yet??
Anybody that still backs obama or any president for that matter just hasnt educated themselves
plain and simple THEY ALL LIE.
ALL OBAMA HAS DONE IS LIE
people just dont give a shit and go by what they see on fox or yahoo

its fucking pathetic

step up to the plate and give a shit
you dont think it effects you? yea?
look around your home city
I bet its not how it used to be
thats all bc people DO NOT EDUCATE THEMSELVES
STOP WATCHIG THE NEWS ITS ALL BIASED BULLSHIT

and if anybody gives a shit why dont you look up videos of what is going on at wall street

The largest protest america has seen in ages is going on right now
HAS ANYONE HEARD ABOUT IT???????

Yea thats right they are 23 days into protest and the numbers are skyrocketing
over 15,000 people in NYC a week ago protesting against corrupt wall street
and this movement is spreading nationwide

ALL major cities are starting to protest against this broken, outdates monetary system


ANYONE WHO RESIDES IN CALIFORNIA
guess what?
Los Angeles is on the list for protests
and their numbers are growing!!!!!! EVERYWERE!!!!!

Occupy Wall Street is quickly turning into an American Revolution
history is being written right the fuck now!!!!!!!!! so go help write it!!!!

has fox news reported on this at all?
have you heard about it?

remember the arab spring protest that took up every news channel for 2 months straight????

YEAH WELL THATS GONG DOWN RIGHT HERE IN USA RIGHT NOW
so why the fuck is there a media blackout now that its happening in our own country

DEMOCRACY IS NON EXISTENT IN AMERICA
WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU ALL BEEN????????????

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BrockMonday said:

From all the articles I have read, my understanding is that the only shops being closed down are the ones that aren't in COMPLETE compliance with the law. Nothing I have read so far leads me to believe all of them are getting shit down.

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from norml front page -
"Earlier this week, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) issued a long-awaited $2.5 million ruling against a major medical cannabis dispensary in California. Citing an obscure part of the US tax code meant to target drug cartels, the federal agency is barring dispensaries, even those licensed under state law, from taking any business-related tax deductions and is seeking millions in dollars in back taxes."
"U.S. Attorneys in California sent warnings to local dispensaries in San Francisco, San Diego, and elsewhere warning that locally compliant facilities still may be subject to federal prosecution for violating federal ‘drug free school zones’ legislation — leaving these facilities with no choice but to either move or close."
"Federal regulators cracked down on banks in Colorado, California and Michigan that had previously conduct business with medical cannabis dispensaries, forbidding these financial institutions from allowing cash deposits or processing credit/debit cards from state or locally approved canna-businesses." - (my bank closed the other day.. i wonder if it is just coincidence..?)
"Also, federal attorneys in California have sent hundreds of legal warnings to the landlords of properties that rent to medical cannabis businesses (retail, delivery, cultivation and testing) warning that their properties and assets are subject to swift civil forfeiture proceedings, and that they themselves may be subject to decades in prison. Is it likely that federal attorneys do the same in Colorado, New Mexico and Maine; and to the numerous gray area dispensaries in Oregon and Washington?"

ford442 said:

from norml front page -
"Earlier this week, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) issued a long-awaited $2.5 million ruling against a major medical cannabis dispensary in California. Citing an obscure part of the US tax code meant to target drug cartels, the federal agency is barring dispensaries, even those licensed under state law, from taking any business-related tax deductions and is seeking millions in dollars in back taxes."
"U.S. Attorneys in California sent warnings to local dispensaries in San Francisco, San Diego, and elsewhere warning that locally compliant facilities still may be subject to federal prosecution for violating federal ‘drug free school zones’ legislation — leaving these facilities with no choice but to either move or close."
"Federal regulators cracked down on banks in Colorado, California and Michigan that had previously conduct business with medical cannabis dispensaries, forbidding these financial institutions from allowing cash deposits or processing credit/debit cards from state or locally approved canna-businesses." - (my bank closed the other day.. i wonder if it is just coincidence..?)
"Also, federal attorneys in California have sent hundreds of legal warnings to the landlords of properties that rent to medical cannabis businesses (retail, delivery, cultivation and testing) warning that their properties and assets are subject to swift civil forfeiture proceedings, and that they themselves may be subject to decades in prison. Is it likely that federal attorneys do the same in Colorado, New Mexico and Maine; and to the numerous gray area dispensaries in Oregon and Washington?"

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"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." -Thomas Jefferson
My man Thomas would be pissed if he knew what was going on.

BrockMonday said:

From all the articles I have read, my understanding is that the only shops being closed down are the ones that aren't in COMPLETE compliance with the law. Nothing I have read so far leads me to believe all of them are getting shit down.

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That's because all of the articles quote the pigs, and the pigs are professional liars. They lie to the judges and they lie to the public, and the people all say Oh well then, that's OK, because the pigs said so.