is this rare or what!!!!!!!!!!!

naw not really that was when it was warm inside it says around 79 now b/c my house stays at 60 degrees during the day... plus would it toss my plants into shock to vegg inside and then flower outside i was just going to set them outside 12 hours a day when i am ready to bloom them will this hurt them

i had a plant do this last year. i did some research and found it was called whorled phylotatxy or tri-lateral branching. It turned out to be male for me and only the main stem portrayed this feature. All nodes had 3 leaves and thus 3 branches, but each of those nodes only portrayed the typical bi-lateral branching. Here's a picture of the one that I had.

dont wanna sound like a douche here...but calling this plant a polyploid is like calling northern lights "dro" .

Here .

Single leaf sets (no name - i guess we could call it uniploid hehe)
Double leaf sets (normal - called dipbids)
Triple leaf sets (triploid)
Quadruple leaf sets (tetraploid)

If you want to know even more read this thread:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/174602-must-read.html#post2254927

Polyploidy (favorable traits in Cannabis) has not been shown to occur naturally in Cannabis; however, it may be induced artificially with colchicine treatments. Colchicine is a poisonous compound extracted from the roots of certain Colchicum species; it inhibits chromosome segregation to daughter cells and cell wall formation, resulting in larger than average daughter cells with multiple chromosome sets.

Triploid (3n) strains were formed with great difficulty by crossing artificially created tetraploids (4n) with dipbids (2n). Triploids proved to be inferior to both diploids and tetraploids in many cases. De Pasquale et al. (1979) conducted experiments with Cannabis which was treated with 0.25% and 0.50% solutions of colchicine at the primary meristem seven days after generation. Treated plants were slightly taller and possessed slightly larger leaves than the controls, Anoma- lies in leaf growth occurred in 20% and 39%, respectively, of the surviving treated plants. In the first group (0.25%) cannabinoid levels were highest in the plants without anomalies, and in the second group (0.50%) cannabinoid levels were highest in plants with anomalies.

Seeing as we dont know if we have .25 or .50% I suppose you may get retarded, or accelerated growth...just so you know, my triploid grew really fast then stopped for a bit, then topped itself and out of the tops one was triploid one was dipbid. The bud from the triploid part honestly didnt seem any different than the bud from the other side. There was more bud but definitely not 33% more..and it may have only been more due to that top being closer to the light.

If you call your grow a polyploid grow you will start a trend of people calling triploid polyploid, when as i said..a plant with 12 leaf sets per node is polyploid too! and 2 leaf sets (meaning normal mj IS polyploid!)

The term "whorled phyllotaxy" literally means:

Whorled: Arranged AROUND the stem (as opposed to on top of it, or either side of it)
phyllotaxy: The scientific name for "arrangement of leaves on a stem"

This just means the leaves grow in a circular pattern around the stem.

The term polyploid means more than one leaf per node. so technically you have a cannabis plant displaying classic triploid trait, manifesting in a whorled phyllotaxy. (a plant with 3 leaf sets per node, where the leaf sets are arranged AROUND the stem)

When nodes alternate (branches arent growing 2 at a time evenly anymore, one branch grows then internode then a branch on the other side grows) - This is then called ALTERNATE plyllotaxy. Marijuana by DEFAULT is "OPPOSITE" phyllotaxy.

prot

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Seed treatment is the most effective and safest way to apply colchicine. * In this way, the entire plant growing from a colchicine-treated seed could be polyploid and if any colchicine exists at the end of the growing season the amount would be infinitesimal. Colchicine is nearly always lethal to Cannabis seeds, and in the treatment there is a very fine line between polyploidy and death. In other words, if 100 viable seeds are treated with colchicine and 40 of them germinate it is unlikely that the treatment induced polyploidy in any of the survivors. On the other hand, if 1,000 viable treated seeds give rise to 3 seedlings, the chances are better that they are polyploid since the treatment killed all of the seeds but those three.

^^anyone that cant wrap their head around natural selection thats a perfect example. "only the strongest survive" all the seeds will die except those seeds that adapt to the chemical. Those that adapt are genetically different yes, but their genetic difference caused them to survive where the rest died. Imagine if a disease swept through the world where all humans died except the GENETICALLY blind..as in, the genes that cause that person to be blind just happen to help them fight the disease off...that means now EVERY living human MUST be blind...humans just lost the ability to see. One day we may not even have eyeballs anymore..who knows what we WILL develop tho? So because this blindness is genetic it will be passed on genetically to offspring. 3 things can happen now...we can split again, where a child will be born who can see but is also resistant (yay), or all newborns could be blind (aww) OR all newborns who ARENT blind may not survive..leading back to "all humans are geneticaly blind".

Theres no way to tell if your plant is going to be kickass and have 250% more thc, or if it will be like hemp with no thc. Until you smoke it

bigbudjohn420 said:

i was thinking of using bigbud and some monster bloom 0-40-60 for flowering

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Man, IMHO, I would use a better ballenced nute for flowering! That straight doesn't look healthy! 0-40-60? REALLY? I don't know if I've ever seen that before.....

taken from the FAQs

Polyploidy is the condition of multiple sets of chromosomes within one cell. Cannabis has 20 chromosomes in the vegetative diploid (2n) condition. Triploid (3n) and tetraploid (4n) individuals have three or four sets of chromosomes and are termed polyploids. It is believed that the haploid condition of 10 chromosomes was likely derived by reduction from a higher (polyploid) ancestral number (Lewis, W. H. 1980). Polyploidy has not been shown to occur naturally in Cannabis; however, it may be induced artificially with colchicine treatments. Colchicine is a poisonous compound extracted from the roots of certain Colchicum species; it inhibits chromosome segregation to daughter cells and cell wall formation, resulting in larger than average daughter cells with multiple chromosome sets. The studies of H. E. Warmke et al. (1942-1944) seem to indicate that colchicine raised drug levels in Cannabis. It is unfortunate that Warmke was unaware of the actual psychoactive ingredients of Cannabis and was therefore unable to extract THC. His crude acetone extract and archaic techniques of bioassay using killifish and small freshwater crustaceans are far from conclusive. He was, however, able to produce both triploid and tetraploid strains of Cannabis with up to twice the potency of dip bid strains (in their ability to kill small aquatic organisms). The aim of his research was to "produce a strain of hemp with materially reduced marijuana content" and his results indicated that polyploidy raised the potency of Cannabis without any apparent increase in fiber quality or yield.

Pipe Dream said:

taken from the FAQs

Polyploidy is the condition of multiple sets of chromosomes within one cell. Cannabis has 20 chromosomes in the vegetative diploid (2n) condition. Triploid (3n) and tetraploid (4n) individuals have three or four sets of chromosomes and are termed polyploids. It is believed that the haploid condition of 10 chromosomes was likely derived by reduction from a higher (polyploid) ancestral number (Lewis, W. H. 1980). Polyploidy has not been shown to occur naturally in Cannabis; however, it may be induced artificially with colchicine treatments. Colchicine is a poisonous compound extracted from the roots of certain Colchicum species; it inhibits chromosome segregation to daughter cells and cell wall formation, resulting in larger than average daughter cells with multiple chromosome sets. The studies of H. E. Warmke et al. (1942-1944) seem to indicate that colchicine raised drug levels in Cannabis. It is unfortunate that Warmke was unaware of the actual psychoactive ingredients of Cannabis and was therefore unable to extract THC. His crude acetone extract and archaic techniques of bioassay using killifish and small freshwater crustaceans are far from conclusive. He was, however, able to produce both triploid and tetraploid strains of Cannabis with up to twice the potency of dip bid strains (in their ability to kill small aquatic organisms). The aim of his research was to "produce a strain of hemp with materially reduced marijuana content" and his results indicated that polyploidy raised the potency of Cannabis without any apparent increase in fiber quality or yield.

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1n = 10 chromosomes (haploid, one leaf set. This is the only NON polyploid)
2n = 20 chromosomes (diploid, at this point the plant is SCIENTIFICALLY a polyploid. The WORD polyploid means "at least 2x more chromosomes than haploid".)
3n - 30 chromosomes (triploid)

http://thesaurus.infoplease.com/polyploid said:

1. polyploid (vs. haploid) (vs. diploid), (vs. triploid) usage: of a cell or organism having more than twice the haploid number of chromosomes; "a polyploid cell"; "a polyploid species"

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Try to remember, these words arent marijuana specific, im not getting shit from the growfaq I learned this in biology, the 4 leaf clover is the same mutation as this. So you are as "lucky" to have this, as you are to find a 4 leaf clover.

Im done with this topic, the fact is, everyone has polyploid mj plants, seeing as mj is NOT single leafed (1n, haploid, 10 chromosomes) every mj plant is polyploid. plants with sets of one leaf (as happens when nodes begin to ALTERNATE) from seed would be genetically rarer than triploid or tetraploid.

Im polypedal..so are all humans with more than one leg...but scientists refer to us as BIPEDAL specifically. If we had 3 legs we would be tripedal specifically.
(of course polypedal literally means "multiple legs" and polyploid means "multiple sets of chromosomes" the extra chromosome sets each manifest as a st of leaves, im sure theres a chromosomal reason we have 2 legs, but even if i knew the details i wouldnt bother telling a patient that when he came in, just as i simplified the meaning of polyploid for the OP...His question wasnt about the genetic makeup of his plant, nor chemical processes..I just told him the true name for a 3 leaf set per node plant.

TRIPLOID

prot

bigbudjohn420 said:

well then this is a polyploid PC grow i am growing in MG organic potting soil i am growing in a PC case with three 23watt= 100 watt CFL here is my pic of my grow box

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Very nice! Looking forward to seeing the turn out.

I would do some more reading about nutrients, when flowering. 0-40-60 is quite a radical potency... I don't think I've ever read anyone using that strength of nutes before and would guess you'll be over-fertilizing your plants. There's plenty of info on this site about nutes, so I'm not going to go in to it. Just do some more research before you use that strength... I think you'll have a change of heart. Good luck to you. I hope it turns out female.

-S

naw i like it ... its called moster bloom google that shit i used it on my pic by my name ... but anyways ill update later tonight

well as i said here is a pic update on my two plants.. well tell me what you all think

just to stop some confusion, just because it uses the word "poly" doesnt mean anything really. its just a general category. for instance all shapes are polygons, no matter how many sides, from 3-100000, it doesnt matter. but when you get specific is when you add the other part of the word such as uni, bi, tri, quad, etc...

p.s. im interested in following this so consider me sub'd

thanks for fallowing me on this man.... so what do you think about my 2 babys the one with three leafs has a redish color to the leaves what can this be

looks overwatered let the soil dry out a little.

dose both plants look over water or just the 3 leafed one.. plus my box is runing at awsome temps

pics of the box with plants and a look at temp and humidity

I had a weed plant once that bore the fruit of a watermelon. I was so stoned and had a desperate case of the munchies that I ate it before I realized I should have taken a pic of it.

hmm cracker, sounds a little far-fetched lol either your extremely high right now or your dead serious. given your rep id say both are accurate statements

riddleme said:

nothing rare about an over watered plant

see em here every day

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stop watering you plants so much then .

i water them once every 27 hours and the soil is dry.. i always take pics after i water them... clam down and somg a bong