Is this a Hermie?

m420p

m420p

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I'm growing some Jack Herer F7's and have a plant showing seeds 8 weeks into bloom. I have checked them weekly in case they were herms and have not found any male nanners. But on the bud that shows a few seeds, there is what I thought was a bud foxtail coming off the bud but I looked closer and there are 3 yellow skinny things poking out the end. They are hard to see in the pic but they almost look like they could be male pollen pods starting. They don't look anything like they should and aren't where they male nanners usually start but since I have searched these plants up and down with no sign of a hermie, I'm starting to suspect it especially since I can see 3 seeds around it in the area. I have 2 plants that show no signs of seeds and one that has one seed visible on the whole plant which is next to the suspected hermie(one with a few visible seeds). Tell me what you think. If it is, IT is getting chopped early before it screws the rest of the plants up. Surprised it hasn't already.

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realghost

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I'd need a better picture of the under side to make a proper judgement, however it definitely appears to be seeding!

I'd cut her down soon!

Ghost
 
m420p

m420p

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realghost said:
I'd need a better picture of the under side to make a proper judgement, however it definitely appears to be seeding!

I'd cut her down soon!

Ghost
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Ya, that's the best pic. I could get with this camera, I even zoomed in on the computer as well as I could without distorting the image too much. But you see the thing I'm talking about? Not the seed that is obvious. It just looks like a flower getting ready to open. Probably going to chop her tonight, what a shame, 4-5 weeks early and my first time growing indoor by seeds. Being a first time seed grower, it is probably the most likely time to have hermies because I did stunt a few when I started them out. Any other thoughts to give more confidence to chop it?
 
m420p

m420p

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Okay, I cut that part in the picture off the bud and tore it apart. I'm about 95 percent positive it is a male flower. What do you think? looks like 3 bananas to me.

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Nootnam

Nootnam

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That's most definitely a male flower.. Ive got a plant flowering who hermied on me :( but its not that bad, you are far enough along to where it wont mess anything up and will still get some great bud with maybe a few seeds, honestly I wouldn't mind having a few free feminized seeds.. Ive been researching cannabis a lot lately and found that it will do anything to survive, a hermaphrodite plant is actually more common then not when there are no males around to help with ongoing survival especially when the plant was from a feminized seed because if the plant pollinated itself, it will be an inbreed seed and be mutated just like humans will or it can just have the trait in its genetics. The "sex" of a cannabis plant is actually 50/50 from the start and can really do whatever it wants whenever it wants, and the only thing you can do is help it lean more towards one side as opposed to both by reducing stress and taking real good care of her. Don't waste a perfectly good smoke because you found one male flower in her
 
m420p

m420p

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Nootnam said:
That's most definitely a male flower.. Ive got a plant flowering who hermied on me :( but its not that bad, you are far enough along to where it wont mess anything up and will still get some great bud with maybe a few seeds, honestly I wouldn't mind having a few free feminized seeds.. Ive been researching cannabis a lot lately and found that it will do anything to survive, a hermaphrodite plant is actually more common then not when there are no males around to help with ongoing survival especially when the plant was from a feminized seed because if the plant pollinated itself, it will be an inbreed seed and be mutated just like humans will or it can just have the trait in its genetics. The "sex" of a cannabis plant is actually 50/50 from the start and can really do whatever it wants whenever it wants, and the only thing you can do is help it lean more towards one side as opposed to both by reducing stress and taking real good care of her. Don't waste a perfectly good smoke because you found one male flower in her
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Thanks for the post, I think you convinced me to let it go and not chop her. Way I look at it is it already has seeds, so the hermie already had it's way and considering I cut off the only male part on the plant and stopped it from further damage, I don't see any harm in letting it go all the way. It's not like it completely seeded the crop or anything anyways. Just a few visible seeds. Thanks.
 
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mrblu

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yeh those nanners can hide inside the bud. the smoke may still be ok and you may get some seeds out of the deal so it is not the end of the world.
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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Every Nanner has the potential to give your plant a thousand seeds....
Look at it this way:
My plant has an infection...
If I let it go, I will end up with a couple of thousand seeds, and almost no bud...
If I chop it now I get imature bud...
If I tweezer pick out the nanners, every day[until plant is finished]... I maybe will miss a few and only get 2-300 seeds...
So be yea careful with the nanners...
And a big GOOD LUCK!
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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And BTW...
Nanners, are not seeds...
The Nanner, in the middle of the bud, will open, and cause that bud they are opening in, to have seed, after seed....100's of...seeds...[plus the pollen will go to some of the other buds]
Your plant is 8 weeks [I assume from flipping the switch] so you have one week to 3 or 4 left...
I vote pull now, and save yourself grief...
The bud will be [IMO] at least 80% of perfect now... with one week + left...
Next week when you pull her, those Nanners will not have polinated the bud "Long" enough to form a seed.
It takes about, one week minimum, up till 4 weeks to form a viable seed...
So if you pull her in a week, prob no good seeds anyway... but you'll have some... no mater how careful...
Unwanted S-e-e-d-s....
 
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brimck325

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why did it herm is the question? that jack is f7, it's pretty fukin stable. find out what went wrong n chalk it up to learning experience.
 
Nootnam

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m420p said:
Thanks for the post, I think you convinced me to let it go and not chop her. Way I look at it is it already has seeds, so the hermie already had it's way and considering I cut off the only male part on the plant and stopped it from further damage, I don't see any harm in letting it go all the way. It's not like it completely seeded the crop or anything anyways. Just a few visible seeds. Thanks.
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No problem, what do the trichs look like on your flowers? I would just continue to pick off all the male flowers and let it finish all the way through.. When is the last time you bought a couple ounces of weed and found a couple seeds in it? Probably the last time you bought that much weed and I can guarantee it was some bomb ass buds grown from somebody who knows not to leave male plants in close quarters. Like sand said, if you are close enough to the peak then I would chop but if you want to wait a little longer than you wont have any more of an issue than you already do, any male flowers that aren't open already probably wont even have enough time left to open before you chop
 
m420p

m420p

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brimck325 said:
why did it herm is the question? that jack is f7, it's pretty fukin stable. find out what went wrong n chalk it up to learning experience.
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I left them in the humidome too long before putting them into netpots, killed two of them and had some mutate. It was my first time growing by seed indoors so it was predictable. You can call it pretty fuckin stable all you want(I figured f7s are stable, thats why I got them) but this is the most touchy fucking strain I have EVER grown. You look at it wrong and it will mutate on you. The clones I took and put in soil I did not stunt at all and a few of them have mutated leaves already. Roots grow really slow in hydro. I honestly have never seen a mutated leaf in over 5 clone only grows but I've seen them on all over this grow, including clones off plants that didn't mutate at all. They eventually grow out of the mutations but it's just odd to me. I just did my second seed pop of some Bodhi Lucky Charms and am having no troubles.
 
m420p

m420p

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Sand4x105 said:
And BTW...
Nanners, are not seeds...
The Nanner, in the middle of the bud, will open, and cause that bud they are opening in, to have seed, after seed....100's of...seeds...[plus the pollen will go to some of the other buds]
Your plant is 8 weeks [I assume from flipping the switch] so you have one week to 3 or 4 left...
I vote pull now, and save yourself grief...
The bud will be [IMO] at least 80% of perfect now... with one week + left...
Next week when you pull her, those Nanners will not have polinated the bud "Long" enough to form a seed.
It takes about, one week minimum, up till 4 weeks to form a viable seed...
So if you pull her in a week, prob no good seeds anyway... but you'll have some... no mater how careful...
Unwanted S-e-e-d-s....
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Believe me I'm no newbie man, I know how things work but I appreciate your post for any newbies who shows up. I've just never seen a male flower poke out of the bud the way this one did.

Here's the bottom line man. I have been searching these plants up and down for nanners all of bloom without luck until now. Since almost all the seeds that are visible are around where that male flower was, I bet that is the only one atm. Since I cut it off before it opened up I don't see any harm in letting them go longer. I can only see about 5 visible seeds on 2 plants. If I start to see more seeds starting or more nanners, it's getting chopped, but I'm going to let it go for now.
 
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