Is this a good set?

SimplySmokin

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Looks Okay to me though I'm kind of a Newbie myself. I would shop it a bit and if I were you would probably piece meal it out buying my lights and nutrients individually because I think you can do better on both if you did. Nutes like Advanced Nutrients or Flairiform and the light looks a lil on the cheesey side but I'm sure it'll grow weed.

Good Luck with it and let me know
 

6Barrel

Member
Thanks Simply Smoking. Anything has to be better than my last set up using 2 23watt cfls that did actually work well until i took my plant on holiday and used different water an forgot nutes then got home just drowned it in nutes haha.
 

SimplySmokin

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Never a problem, Hell its what friends do. Anyrate, check out my basement in my signature link, The mother (Purple Buddha) was started under 3 4' flourescent tubes and is flowering under 5 tubes and a 150 watt Hps so ya dont need a whole lotsa money to have fun with this lil smokeable hobby. Check ya later "bud" ;-)
 

McFonz

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Why don't you start simple?
get a 250W mixed spectrum light with a basic hood, a vent, a 5 gallon bucket with a few holes in the bottom and a place to grow in.
For the medium use a simple mix like 1part good nute-free soil mix (I heard root organics works well but I never tried any US brand so I don't really know), 1 part chunky perlite, 1 part high quality compost or worm castings.
With that use just dechlorinated water for a few months.
At week 4 of flowering start feeding with 1ml\L of BioBizz BioBloom or any low dose of any flowering fert.

Only water when the pot is light. If the pot is heavy it has enough water in it.

Don't check the pH. Don't check the EC. Don't use veg nutes. Don't touch the plant if it doesn't need it.


This method might sound way too simple, but it works. Not the best yields, not the best quality, not the best anything - but not bad either.


For genetics go with something SOLID. Something that can take abuse.
Dinafem's Sweet Deep Grapefruit is very forgiving. I bet their White Widow is even stronger.


Cheers.
 

6Barrel

Member
Thanks McFonz, that does sound like a good plan, low cost and by the sounds of it not much can go wrong :) Just one question though, my friend has given me some autoflowering seeds so my question is, normally when you grow a non autoflowering strain, you change the light cycle aswell as the ligth source for a different spectrum. I know you dont have to change the light cycle for autoflower but do you need to change the light spectrum? And don't suggest a dual spectrum because I can't find any of those. By the way I'll be using cfls and am in the UK. I read alot of things that seem to be American. Thanks again McFonz and SS!
 

McFonz

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Autoflowering genetics usually grow best under 20\4 light (which you seem to already know) and go through a short veg time. (usually 2-3 weeks)
In the veg time its better to use blue spectrum, but considering the plants are pretty darn small at this stage they would do with a red spectrum CFL if you use enough.

http://www.basementlighting.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=1/PROD/LA9
and
http://www.growell.co.uk/p/1084/Budget-Lighting-Systems.html

are the first ones I found in the UK.

HID is much easier (and rewarding) compared to CFLs, at least for me.
With CFLs you need to do a lot of wiring, buying all the sockets and stuff, its a pain in the ass to cool properly and you pay twice the electricity for the same light.
If you still wish to use CFLs remember that the bigger ones (45+W) are much more effective than the small ones. You better use only 45-60w (or higher, but the cost is pretty close to HID when you go up) with CFLs.


Why are you going to grow AFs?
You'r indoor, you could use normal ones...
 

6Barrel

Member
Thanks for the tips, I'll have a look at HiDs, i did see one twice for the power for the same cost so you've given me something to think about.
The choice of AF wasn't my choice, i was talking to a friend and he gave me a packet of Afghan Kush Ryder fem AF and he has found those easy to grow so I thought I'll give those a go before purchasing my own seeds. Seemed logical.
 

McFonz

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Thanks for the tips, I'll have a look at HiDs, i did see one twice for the power for the same cost so you've given me something to think about.
The choice of AF wasn't my choice, i was talking to a friend and he gave me a packet of Afghan Kush Ryder fem AF and he has found those easy to grow so I thought I'll give those a go before purchasing my own seeds. Seemed logical.
I run with 1000w of light (600+400) and somewhat expensive nutrients. Running AF would yield lower at most cases, be of lower potency in most cases and would require much more light hours that isn't cheap anyway. The price of normal seeds seems pretty low considering those points.
But you could start with anything. If you run AF you might wanna make some seeds and throw them (you will get tons from one small plant) somewhere far away from your grow (so male pollen doesn't find his way to your cab) and come back after a while to see if no one found them :-)

I wouldnt, buy them seperatly. When you buy kits its always low quality.
Thats a good point. But in the kits i've linked the bulb is very good and usually magnetic ballast are provided with at least 5 year warranty.
The wiring might be of lower quality but its just 250W so it doesn't really matter.
The hood however is crappy. I would call them and ask to upgrade the reflector in the same kit and add some bucks.
the links were basically just to show that such lights available. If they got a kit with something they are likely to sell it by its own as well.


Cheers :-)
 
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