Is she trying to talk to me, or am I trippin?

NebulousPLM

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My last grow was my first grow, and I had some problems with overfert. I wasn't checking my PPM's, which lead to some problems. This time, I've been following a PPM chart, and also trying to listen to my plants.. If I see any burning, I try to back off.
Yet, I still see little leaves that are starting to become discolored... Is this normal?
It's not effecting the outside leaves, but the more mature leaves on the inside are starting to discolor. It looks worse when the HPS is on.

Am I just being paranoid?
I'm at the beginning of week 5, thinking Orange Crush is a 10 week strain from size.

Something I should note is that I haven't been feeding to runoff... I don't know if this could cause any problems.

Any advice?
 
astronautrob

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How much are you feeding right now? Maybe a little def but more likely it's just because you're getting late in to flowering, it's not uncommon to have some yellowing as you reach the late stage of flowering. Want to make sure you're feeding her enough though at this crucial stage of growth
IMO watering until runoff is not really necessary, unless you want to check the ppms of your runoff of for some unknown reason check the pH of your runoff, but you do want to make sure that you are watering enough to get the soil sufficiently moist/wet all the way to the bottom of course

*edit: she's look good though dude, I wouldn't overreact at all
 
NebulousPLM

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fabizpwn said:
It will start losing color as it ends its life cycle. I have one that's 42 days in and looks like death lol
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Man, I'm like 30-some days into flower and my buds are nowhere near that big.. That's why I assumed that this is a 10 week strain. Last time, my buds were much larger at this point... I think I may have a temp issue after lights go off. I changed out my heater, hopefully that encourages them. I can't imagine it was getting any colder than 65 before though.
Thanks for the response though man, makes me less nervous.

astronautrob said:
How much are you feeding right now? Maybe a little def but more likely it's just because you're getting late in to flowering, it's not uncommon to have some yellowing as you reach the late stage of flowering. Want to make sure you're feeding her enough though at this crucial stage of growth
IMO watering until runoff is not really necessary, unless you want to check the ppms of your runoff of for some unknown reason check the pH of your runoff, but you do want to make sure that you are watering enough to get the soil sufficiently moist/wet all the way to the bottom of course

*edit: she's look good though dude, I wouldn't overreact at all
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I'm feeding about 1000 PPM, minimal burnt tips. I'm thinking of moving up to 1100 PPM this next water. I was just making sure it didn't look like I was OVERFEEDING.
The bottom holes are wet when I press into the medium.
Yeah, I was reading that some dude called advanced and they said his problem was runoff. Sounded like BS to me, after this crop I'll probably be switching. These dudes (at AN) have some pretty suspect responses.... Thank you for the response.
 
fabizpwn

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I have some plants that are 35 days into 12/12 with similar size nugs as yours, I have some other ones that are 42 day into with nugs not much bigger then yours. It's a strain dependent. They'll pack on the weight when it's time about the same time they'll really start getting yellow lol.
 
fabizpwn

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NebulousPLM said:
Man, I'm like 30-some days into flower and my buds are nowhere near that big.. That's why I assumed that this is a 10 week strain. Last time, my buds were much larger at this point... I think I may have a temp issue after lights go off. I changed out my heater, hopefully that encourages them. I can't imagine it was getting any colder than 65 before though.
Thanks for the response though man, makes me less nervous.



I'm feeding about 1000 PPM, minimal burnt tips. I'm thinking of moving up to 1100 PPM this next water. I was just making sure it didn't look like I was OVERFEEDING.
The bottom holes are wet when I press into the medium.
Yeah, I was reading that some dude called advanced and they said his problem was runoff. Sounded like BS to me, after this crop I'll probably be switching. These dudes (at AN) have some pretty suspect responses.... Thank you for the response.
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I called AN also one time, dude didn't know shit lol. He just agreed with everything I said and didn't give me any advice. I do like their nutrients though, not so much for soil but they kick ass in hydro.
 
NebulousPLM

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fabizpwn said:
I called AN also one time, dude didn't know shit lol. He just agreed with everything I said and didn't give me any advice. I do like their nutrients though, not so much for soil but they kick ass in hydro.
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You're the first 'well known' person on RIU that has said that you like AN, haha. They're expensive though man. I have soil and hydro (just got into hydro). My hydro rez is 55 gallons... I can only imagine 4 ML/L... I haven't flowered with it yet, but I'm hoping they don't drink that much.
 
astronautrob

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NebulousPLM said:
Man, I'm like 30-some days into flower and my buds are nowhere near that big.. That's why I assumed that this is a 10 week strain. Last time, my buds were much larger at this point... I think I may have a temp issue after lights go off. I changed out my heater, hopefully that encourages them. I can't imagine it was getting any colder than 65 before though.
Thanks for the response though man, makes me less nervous.



I'm feeding about 1000 PPM, minimal burnt tips. I'm thinking of moving up to 1100 PPM this next water. I was just making sure it didn't look like I was OVERFEEDING.
The bottom holes are wet when I press into the medium.
Yeah, I was reading that some dude called advanced and they said his problem was runoff. Sounded like BS to me, after this crop I'll probably be switching. These dudes (at AN) have some pretty suspect responses.... Thank you for the response.
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I'd say you could up the feeding 1100ppm and be fine, keep doing what you're doing though and look out for more signs of burn. Yea I know I've read some threads around here people raging about AN. I don't know anything about that I has jacks classic haha, but yea I know a lot of people have hate for AN
 
fabizpwn

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NebulousPLM said:
You're the first 'well known' person on RIU that has said that you like AN, haha. They're expensive though man. I have soil and hydro (just got into hydro). My hydro rez is 55 gallons... I can only imagine 4 ML/L... I haven't flowered with it yet, but I'm hoping they don't drink that much.
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Late in flower they drink a ton but at that time you're using overdrive only or running straight water flushing. Yes it's super expensive lol. I run almost everything at about half strength. thats around 800ppm. Can average 1.5-2# per 1,000w on se bulbs.
 
a mongo frog

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fabizpwn said:
Late in flower they drink a ton but at that time you're using overdrive only or running straight water flushing. Yes it's super expensive lol. I run almost everything at about half strength. thats around 800ppm. Can average 1.5-2# per 1,000w on se bulbs.
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No you can't. Only cob led can do that kind of weight.......
 
NebulousPLM

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a mongo frog said:
No you can't. Only cob led can do that kind of weight.......
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My grow shop I go to competes in the cannabis cup or something.
They swear that 2# per 1000w light is the standard for them. SE HPS. Coco+Perlite.

To me, that's insane but @ 1 GPW, it's actually a little over 2#..

What do I know though lol I just repeats what I hears
 
a mongo frog

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NebulousPLM said:




My last grow was my first grow, and I had some problems with overfert. I wasn't checking my PPM's, which lead to some problems. This time, I've been following a PPM chart, and also trying to listen to my plants.. If I see any burning, I try to back off.
Yet, I still see little leaves that are starting to become discolored... Is this normal?
It's not effecting the outside leaves, but the more mature leaves on the inside are starting to discolor. It looks worse when the HPS is on.

Am I just being paranoid?
I'm at the beginning of week 5, thinking Orange Crush is a 10 week strain from size.

Something I should note is that I haven't been feeding to runoff... I don't know if this could cause any problems.

Any advice?
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Are you growing in soil?
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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NebulousPLM said:
My grow shop I go to competes in the cannabis cup or something.
They swear that 2# per 1000w light is the standard for them. SE HPS. Coco+Perlite.

To me, that's insane but @ 1 GPW, it's actually a little over 2#..

What do I know though lol I just repeats what I hears
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I was just joking around with him. There right 1.5-2 is standard depending on strain with hps.
 
NebulousPLM

NebulousPLM

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fabizpwn said:
Late in flower they drink a ton but at that time you're using overdrive only or running straight water flushing. Yes it's super expensive lol. I run almost everything at about half strength. thats around 800ppm. Can average 1.5-2# per 1,000w on se bulbs.
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Really? I was planning to run at .75 - I have 2000W over 12 5-Gallon sites. Hoping to get some weight off these girls
 
fabizpwn

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fabizpwn said:
I have no experience with the cxb3590 or whatever everyone is raving about now lol. .75-1 gram a watt is pretty common with se bulbs. People running 1,000w de bulbs are getting 2.5+ # per 1,000w
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Are you running stand alone buckets or some type of flood or rdwc?
 
NebulousPLM

NebulousPLM

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fabizpwn said:
Are you running stand alone buckets or some type of flood or rdwc?
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Assuming this was directed towards me, I'm using an ebb and flow system w/ hydroton.

a mongo frog said:
Well pro mix is soilless. Are you feeding cal mg every watering with a ph of 6.1-6.3?
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Not feeding cal mg at all.. I've never used cal mg.. I read that typically I won't need to use it bc is in my A+B.
I'm not Phing my nutes because I read that you're not supposed to with Ph perfect. Another reason I was thinking of switching. 'They' (AN) say that you're not supposed to PH your nutes or check PPM's due to the PH Perfect technology. The PPM info is from an email directly to them, and the PH is just what I've seen around different forums...
 
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