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k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
A lot of clear trichomes still there.

I would wait.
Get as close to 100% cloudy / milky trichomes as possible.
 

vicious canid

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this is my first grow
had a hard time with this one almost killed it with some bad bloom stuff I found in my grandma's shed(she died 2003)so it was way old. dirt was lousy didn't drain so was always over watering but I learned a lot of what not to do. the buds are pretty dense but not hard like I read they should be but I microwaved a bud and got a pretty good high only smoked one of the two joints I rolled cause I didn't need two and I'm a smoke two joints before I smoke two joints kinda guy

I killed the other 6 which made about 10 total but I'm learning
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Agreed, I woulda pulled it when he first asked... a few ambers here and there depending on everything else is usually good enough for me. A lot can happen in a week...
So you would've pulled based on the first pictures which clearly show around 80% clear trichomes at least.
Good advice to say people should harvest when 80% of the trichomes have no psychoactive effect..




OP: Why are you drying outside in the light?
Light breaks down THC, as does high temperatures and high RH.
You should dry in a proper drying space otherwise you'll end up with hay.
 

vicious canid

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I had just out it there to take a pic it's in the garage now and last week the buds had no weight but this week they did they were much denser. and like I said I learned a whole lot of what not to do. and I did really fuck it up it almost died lost all the fan leaves at one time if the plant wasn't over 6 feet tall it would have died along with the rest of them. next year will be different gonna dig a 4' sqaure hole and fill it with one of the soil mixtures I see on here. anyone from the sacramento area have a mix for this crappy soil?
 

wbd

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So you would've pulled based on the first pictures which clearly show around 80% clear trichomes at least.
Good advice to say people should harvest when 80% of the trichomes have no psychoactive effect..
Me: the sky is blue
You: no, it's purple

Those pics show cloudy with some amber. 1 week later he's all amber. Hmmm...

Go ahead and argue some more, I know how you can't stand differences of opinion...
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Me: the sky is blue
You: no, it's purple

Those pics show cloudy with some amber. 1 week later he's all amber. Hmmm...

Go ahead and argue some more, I know how you can't stand differences of opinion...

The pictures are bad and it's somewhat hard to see the true nature of the trichomes but the majority are surely clear.
The third picture is crap and almost impossible to see any but two of the trichomes.
The first two pictures however show trichomes that are clear, some borderline cloudy and a few amber.

1 week later he's all amber? What are you on about.
The last picture (which is so distorted it's hard even see the shape of the trichome) shows nothing but a lot of cloudy pixels and some amber ones.
I don't see how you can so categorically (based on blurry, out of focus pictures) state your 'facts'...





if amber is more toward couch lock I'm all for it.

It isn't.
Amber trichomes are a sign of THC being degraded into CBN (which isn't as psychoactive and not a pleasant high at all, more of a hangover 'high').
Which is why you want as close to 100% cloudy trichomes (where the THC is fully realized) as possible.
 

wbd

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1 week later he's all amber? What are you on about.
The last picture (which is so distorted it's hard even see the shape of the trichome) shows nothing but a lot of cloudy pixels and some amber ones.
I don't see how you can so categorically (based on blurry, out of focus pictures) state your 'facts'...
This doesn't look all amber to you?



And here you go again...

My only comment earlier is that I would have advised him to pull his plant. Based on his initial pics which while I agree they are shitty pictures appear to be cloudy with some the beginnings of amber. That is when I pull my own plants, can I not advise him the same?

So you thought they were clear and cloudy, so what? You were wrong unless this amazing plant went from clear/cloudy to amber in 5 days... It's OK, life goes on man... chill. :)
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
No that picture doesn't look all amber at all.
Just because you can see some amber smudges and a lot of cloudy smudge doesn't mean it's all amber trichomes..
You can't possibly be arguing for this with that picture as your main argument. You can't even make out the individual trichomes..

I don't agree with you. I think the first pictures show clear trichomes with some cloudy and a few amber.
First of all it wasn't 5 days it was 7, and trichomes can change rather quickly, I've seen clear trichomes go dark blue / purple / amber in a matter of a week.
That reason is also why most people check their plants every day near harvest time to make sure the trichomes don't 'run away' with amber.

Patronizing isn't getting you anywhere.
 

wbd

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No that picture doesn't look all amber at all.
Just because you can see some amber smudges and a lot of cloudy smudge doesn't mean it's all amber trichomes..
You can't possibly be arguing for this with that picture as your main argument. You can't even make out the individual trichomes..

I don't agree with you. I think the first pictures show clear trichomes with some cloudy and a few amber.
First of all it wasn't 5 days it was 7, and trichomes can change rather quickly, I've seen clear trichomes go dark blue / purple / amber in a matter of a week.
That reason is also why most people check their plants every day near harvest time to make sure the trichomes don't 'run away' with amber.

Patronizing isn't getting you anywhere.
It wasn't patronizing, I really didn't believe you don't think that his pics from Nov 5th don't show a plant with heavy amber. Now it's clear you you really, actually don't see a shitload of amber trichs there...

I mean hell there were already a couple of ambers back on the 29th? Yes? No?

Shocking.

Agree to disagree I guess.
 

wbd

Well-Known Member
You don't see all the amber trichs here? Like, too many?




Cmon man, I know you can see that. Stop fucking with us. :)
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
It wasn't patronizing, I really didn't believe you don't think that his pics from Nov 5th don't show a plant with heavy amber. Now it's clear you you really, actually don't see a shitload of amber trichs there...

I mean hell there were already a couple of ambers back on the 29th? Yes? No?

Shocking.

Agree to disagree I guess.

I don't see a shit load of amber no, I see some amber trichomes.

I already said I saw there being a few back on the 29th pics.





You don't see all the amber trichs here? Like, too many?




Cmon man, I know you can see that. Stop fucking with us. :)

Yes I do but you can't just take one picture (the one with most amber trichs) and thereby prove that the plant is covered in amber trichs..
The first two pictures clearly show clear trichomes and are probably his best pictures (in regard to focus and the less blurry shot etc.).
 

wbd

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I don't see a shit load of amber no, I see some amber trichomes.

I already said I saw there being a few back on the 29th pics.








Yes I do but you can't just take one picture (the one with most amber trichs) and thereby prove that the plant is covered in amber trichs..
The first two pictures clearly show clear trichomes and are probably his best pictures (in regard to focus and the less blurry shot etc.).
Fair enough but then how can you accuse me of giving crappy advice? Seems like a double-standard if what you see is accurate, but what I see is not...
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Fair enough but then how can you accuse me of giving crappy advice? Seems like a double-standard if what you see is accurate, but what I see is not...
There is no double standard, I just don't think he should've pulled them the 29th (by the looks of the first pictures).
If he ended up with amber trichomes on some buds, well then maybe I should've explained to him that he should harvest in stages to achieve the best yield, but then again I might as well spend all day here, which is not in my best interest.
 
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