Is Biden fit for duty?

Does Joe Biden have the cognitive function to run the country for another four years?

  • Yes

  • No

  • I don't believe Joe Biden is struggling with some type of cognitive decline.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I’m not crazy about either candidate from an age perspective and have real concerns about how we in the US have an aging problem in our government as a whole. but cognitive ability no not really, but who knows. we gotta get people like Grassley, McConnell, Feinstein, Pelosi, Biden, Trump, etc, etc. outta office earlier and I would be in favor of a max age restriction at time of the election that matched the retirement age published by the IRS or something. Our population should be represented better from an age perspective. Right now I think the average age of a senator is like 58 with the average American being 39 and the average adult being 45.
With experience comes age, or, better said, people who are good at their job and are allowed to do it for a long time, they get older and gain valuable experience. Should we really use an arbitrary number instead of some other signs of decline, such as poor decision making or other objective criteria rather than something that does not really indicate how an individual is holding up over time?

Look at the policies for obtaining a driver's license. People are screened for visual acuity rather than rejected because older people's eyesight tends to decline to the point where some are less safe behind the wheel. Operative words are "tend" and "some" and yes, many older people should not drive but not because they are old.
 

Dryxi

Well-Known Member
That political hack’s assessment isn’t worth a dry burp.
“Mr. Hur has a long and distinguished career as a prosecutor,” Garland said when announcing Hur as his pick for special counsel. “I am confident that Mr. Hur will carry out his responsibility in an even-handed and urgent manner, and in accordance with the highest traditions of this Department.” Maybe we are just unwilling to hear things we don't want to hear?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
“Mr. Hur has a long and distinguished career as a prosecutor,” Garland said when announcing Hur as his pick for special counsel. “I am confident that Mr. Hur will carry out his responsibility in an even-handed and urgent manner, and in accordance with the highest traditions of this Department.” Maybe we are just unwilling to hear things we don't want to hear?
argumentum ad verecundiam
 

printer

Well-Known Member
You wont find many folks here willing to discuss something like that with any nuance or lack of blatant bias. This section is mostly an echo chamber of same think, whataboutism, mental gymnastics and laughable tribalism, with a whole lot of talking points and false statements from the bought and owned legacy media, who to my surprise is even publicizing this subject lately. Having discussions on things like this with impartial participants like folks from the UK or Europe that laugh as hard at Biden's glaringly obvious mental decline as they did at Trumps insane narcissism is a reminder that putting your head in the sand for issues like this because its "your side" is incredibly laughable.

Just today, in what was surely one of the most unintentionally hilarious/terrifying/sad moments of the year thus far, Biden gave a speech poorly attempting to defend his mental state and memory after a recent investigation, where it was revealed that one of the reasons he was not charged with recently mishandling documents because he is "A well meaning elderly man with a poor memory" which is the absolutely positively most polite, carefully worded way to say that. In his rambling speech in response to the statement, seconds after saying "My memory is fine", Biden incorrectly referred to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi as "the President of Mexico", as well as having to defend the fact that he publicly forgot key moments of his life like his sons death, what years he was VP, and more.

So although its been about 5 years since itd be absurd to brush this off as being "a stutter", its now a record in a report from a special counsel of the United States government.
And how has this affected policy?
 

printer

Well-Known Member
“Mr. Hur has a long and distinguished career as a prosecutor,” Garland said when announcing Hur as his pick for special counsel. “I am confident that Mr. Hur will carry out his responsibility in an even-handed and urgent manner, and in accordance with the highest traditions of this Department.” Maybe we are just unwilling to hear things we don't want to hear?
Actually there are not a lot of people on the maga side here as we question their evidence and they fold like a cheap suit. On not wanting to hear what they do not want to hear, the maga crowd hardly goes to CNN for an alternative opinion on the news of the day. Here on the other hand we have posted articles from Fox, Newsmax, (we will not go so far as the daily Caller though), news organizations from the Middle East, the Far East, Russia. Maybe you are short on facts when painting us in a corner?
 

ooof-da

Well-Known Member
With experience comes age, or, better said, people who are good at their job and are allowed to do it for a long time, they get older and gain valuable experience. Should we really use an arbitrary number instead of some other signs of decline, such as poor decision making or other objective criteria rather than something that does not really indicate how an individual is holding up over time?

Look at the policies for obtaining a driver's license. People are screened for visual acuity rather than rejected because older people's eyesight tends to decline to the point where some are less safe behind the wheel. Operative words are "tend" and "some" and yes, many older people should not drive but not because they are old.
I agree with you 100% that there are differences in cognitive ability at different rates in different people as they age. The difference for me is the POTUS is responsible for a shit ton more lives then a driver of a car if set side by side and both perished simultaneously or whatever and there would be a larger shockwave from the politicians passing. Both would be horrific but that not the point. am not as much concerned about cognitive ability as I am about the sheer odds of health, after some age. I am not concerned about either biden or trump in a cognitive ability way in particular. Maybe the IRS is not a good metric….idk.
 

madvillian420

Well-Known Member
so far in response to documented analysis of the presidents mental decline, and him confusing Mexico and Egypt in the very speech to persuade us otherwise, weve got: its just a stutter, that prosecutor is a hack, How did that affect policy? and last but not least: but what about Trump?

Holy shit lol
 

Dryxi

Well-Known Member
Actually there are not a lot of people on the maga side here as we question their evidence and they fold like a cheap suit. On not wanting to hear what they do not want to hear, the maga crowd hardly goes to CNN for an alternative opinion on the news of the day. Here on the other hand we have posted articles from Fox, Newsmax, (we will not go so far as the daily Caller though), news organizations from the Middle East, the Far East, Russia. Maybe you are short on facts when painting us in a corner?
Not sure what you are talking about. Where am I short on facts, or painting the proverbial 'us' into a corner, so far?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
so far in response to documented analysis of the presidents mental decline, and him confusing Mexico and Egypt in the very speech to persuade us otherwise, weve got: its just a stutter, that prosecutor is a hack, How did that affect policy? and last but not least: but what about Trump?

Holy shit lol
Yes, the mistake Biden made was embarrassing and distressing for me to hear.

If Republicans are so worried about that, I don't understand why they are still behind Trump after his completely disoriented speech where he confused Haley with Pelosi. He was talking about an event that affected the security of our government and was completely unhinged at the moment. You are trying to have it one way and not the other. Your logic fails and it makes me believe you aren't arguing in good faith.

I completely understand why you'd prefer that Trump run against somebody who did not beat him the last time. What I don't understand is how you can get behind Trump after he tried to overthrow our government after the last election. I don't understand how Republicans are so willing to accept Trump back.
 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
It was significant enough to be included by the prosecutor. They only interviewed him for a couple hours, and most likely misinterpreted his disability when writing the report.
They interviewed him 5 hours total.

Also, its not up to the prosecutor, to make psych evaluations, as that is not his place, his expertise, nor pertinent to his determinations. Bidens possession of classified files, was either Criminal, or It Wasnt. Simple as that.

Prosecutor, is supposed to stick to the facts, and nothing but, the facts.

Prosecutor is on record stating, there WERE INNOCENT EXPLANATIIONS, about the files..
Prosecutor spoke out of both sides of his mouth.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
so far in response to documented analysis of the presidents mental decline, and him confusing Mexico and Egypt in the very speech to persuade us otherwise, weve got: its just a stutter, that prosecutor is a hack, How did that affect policy? and last but not least: but what about Trump?

Holy shit lol
So how does it effect policy?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Joe might want to give pressers in his Vette or an EV with the aviators on and point out the fact that he has a driver's license and Trump does not and couldn't even pass the driving test or exam, taunt him on it. When he goes to get one in Florida, Meatball Ron will be there with vengeance in his heart... :lol:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Joe might want to give pressers in his Vette or an EV with the aviators on and point out the fact that he has a driver's license and Trump does not and couldn't even pass the driving test or exam, taunt him on it. When he goes to get one in Florida, Meatball Ron will be there with vengeance in his heart... :lol:
Nah. He has more class than that.
 

CANON_Grow

Well-Known Member
so far in response to documented analysis of the presidents mental decline, and him confusing Mexico and Egypt in the very speech to persuade us otherwise, weve got: its just a stutter, that prosecutor is a hack, How did that affect policy? and last but not least: but what about Trump?

Holy shit lol
So instead of blabbing on about being a super intelligent rebel that knows better, explain why you think what the prosecutor stated doesn’t make him a hack? It doesn’t follow Justice Department protocol and certainly appears like a political hit job.

If someone was trying to use the death of my child as a way to attack me, I think I’d be putting that Presidential immunity claim to good use in my defence, not worrying about misspeaking.
I would question the character of anyone that would bring that up, especially because it has no relevance to the case at hand.

Holy shit is right, there is no shame in what some people support.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top