Incomplete ballast sent by htgsupply

LoudBlunts said:

i'd ebay that shit...lol

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someone here would end up with it. then they start another one of these threads.


i think he may assemble his own shit. my ballast and hood have his name and logo painted all over them. you put your name on something you better be able to back it up.

see i didnt know all that. i only ordered name brand shit from him...well known names

LoudBlunts said:

see i didnt know all that. i only ordered name brand shit from him...well known names

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all the cheap stuff has his name on it......High Tech Garden Supply

that must suck to put your name on something and its shitty

LoudBlunts said:

that must suck to put your name on something and its shitty

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i wouldn't know.

panhead said:

Im not trying to bust your balls but you cant have done much buying off ebay, if you'd have read the entire auction/buy it now you'd have seen where it say's buyer is responsible for return shipping,this is standard with all ebay sellers including myself & it does say this in all htg's auctions,i just checked.

Sounds to me like you were in a hurry & are pissed over the shipping so you wrote several threads on 2 sites to bitch about something that you overlooked,not cool,going by your first post in this thread you also intend to hold them hostage over feedback until they satisfy your unfounded expectations,again not too cool.

Im on the sellers side here 100% for several reasons,the first being that you have offered no proof that htg has not lived up to their end of the bargin you both agreed to,defective/faulty/incomplete products are just something that happens,even when you buy from Wallmart.

Secondly im on the sellers side because you used this forum & the other forum as a weapon to hurt a much needed business in our hobby when if you had read the entire auction you'd have known it is your responsibility to pay return shipping.

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How did you infer I was in a hurry through my writings? And I did them a favor by buying their poor ballast, it's quite easy to create your own ballast but like you said I very much support companies like HTG because they offer us the opportunity to grow to our imaginations. And if the capacitor, igniter, or transformer was defective I'd be more than OKAY with shipping it back out of my own pocket, but they sold me a product that did NOT match the description.

And where is this ransom business your adding in? I never said I wanted anything in return for my troubles nore do I expect anything, I simply was being considerate and giving them a chance to speak for themselves.

Sorry if explaining my situation gave you the wrong impression of me, but I am a very generous and kind person, and the only reason I didn't raise hell over this is because the man I talked to on the phone was a great guy and tried his best to help. Kudos to him, if anyone knows his name please tell me.

I wanted to let the community be aware, I am in no way using this post or thread as a leverage to gain something out of this ordeal.

Oh and for the guys saying it's not the suppliers fault, they do indeed assemble the ballast because HTG supply is slapped right in the ballast on the transformer.

I'm sorry no matter how you look at it this is just bad business.

Joe I am going to order a new light because the one they sent me is just cheap shit. Is "Alternative Garden Supply" your store? If so I will gladly order from you for all my needs, it's also nice to know your posts have intelligence and thought behind them.

LMAO @ 'it's also nice to know your posts have intelligence and thought behind them.'

so because others dont agree or cosign, their post arent relevant? intelligent? nor thought out?

ha! blasphemy !!!

bghydro.com

horticulturesource.com

and worm's way

are all good stores....


sorry for the misunderstanding!

panhead said:

it say's buyer is responsible for return shipping,this is standard with all ebay sellers including myself

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So your also in the habbit of selling people crap and then making them pay the price for dealing with you....Seriously, you can hide behind your little disclaimers however, people should get what they pay for.....of coarse if you want do justify that its ok to screw this guy out of 30 bucks because your not responsible for your crap products....well don't be suprized when people start spreading the word...what is this shit....BUYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RETURN SHIPPING....Heres a crazy Idea...STAND BEHIND YOUR PRODUCTS...and stop with the shady lawyer disclaimers!!!!!

pompeii said:

Is "Alternative Garden Supply" your store? If so I will gladly order from you for all my needs.

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no, I just shop and "hang out back " with some of the workers.I brew and was looking for a retail,found one within a mile from my house.I really lucked out,I walked in and BAM 5 large tents with flowers,a long line of fox farm everything(place is pretty big)the newest ballast/lights/hoods displayed... like I died and went to heaven when I saw the midy cloner(size of a shoe box that holds 16 clones with mini air pump)
these guys really know der sheet too

Ive seen first hand them opening boxes of ballast and testing lights..
the only thing they don't open and check are the tents(they can't get it back into the box)

LoudBlunts said:

LMAO @ 'it's also nice to know your posts have intelligence and thought behind them.'

so because others dont agree or cosign, their post arent relevant? intelligent? nor thought out?

ha! blasphemy !!!

bghydro.com

horticulturesource.com

and worm's way

are all good stores....


sorry for the misunderstanding!

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..and the new RIU chaaaaamp!!!!

want us to pay shipping twice, sell broken shit on ebay?
you want to kick my dog too?

LoudBlunts said:

LMAO @ 'it's also nice to know your posts have intelligence and thought behind them.'

so because others dont agree or cosign, their post arent relevant? intelligent? nor thought out?

ha! blasphemy !!!

bghydro.com

horticulturesource.com

and worm's way

are all good stores....


sorry for the misunderstanding!

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He used intelligence because his posts have more thought and quality behind them then say someone like yours.

Lets look at what you have posted so far starting with

LoudBlunts said:

how can you fault the RETAILER over a manufacturer defect?
i could see if he actually built the ballast....but he doesnt.... how can you fault him?
AT LEAST he offered to replace the ballast. Tony is a great guy and he stands behind all his products. ALOT ALOT of people order from him. Defects happen time to time.... that is why you hear about recalls and shit.

Dont shoot the messenger."

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They DO assemble the ballasts that's why their name is stuck on the transformer INSIDE the metallic housing. Lets move onto your next lustrous gem of a post.

LoudBlunts said:

"joepro...what the hell are you talking about....

why would a retailer check something before he sells it? LMAO!!!! that is like walmart opening up your bag of skittles to make sure there arent more reds than greens...sealing it back up and trying to sell that shit!!!

that is like me going to barnes and nobles and me getting mad at them because they sold me an xbox 360 magazine and the demo disc that came with it doesnt work or the disc is plain with no decorations.... yall are ridiculous

you all are retarded. how can you hold a retailer at fault for something he didnt fabricate?"

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This post speaks for itself, but I'll go ahead and point it out. Receiving an incomplete ballast is not the same as walmart opening your skittles bag and sorting by preference, or a free demo disc not working. This is the same as buying a bag of wal-mart sorted candies, and not having any candy in the bag. Or buying a barnes and nobles brand book who's ink is missing on the pages. What I paid for I did not receive. Oh and once again it was fabricated by them.

LoudBlunts said:

"i most definitely agree he needs to answer his damn email.

you sell me this shit online....why the hell cant you communicate with me online....

i broke down and called...lol"

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Now you act like your against them because fdd posted something against the company. Do you read posts or do you just look at a members post count and agree or disagree if they don't exceed a certain number? Start formulating your own ideas and thoughts and that will lead to creativity and originality, try it sometime and it will earn you more respect than your post count. Who knows you may contribute useful information to this fine community.

Now look at Joe's posts. There is evidence of thought. Joe appears to be a much more credible poster than you, so I will take his advice over yours. I don't say he's intelligent because he agrees with me, he just doesn't make foolish comments and posts like you.

xbravoz said:

So your also in the habbit of selling people crap and then making them pay the price for dealing with you.

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What im in the habit of doing is dealing with asshole customers who want returns for invalid reasons, like their wife is bitching, so now their stupid ass wants me to eat $60 shipping cause they f-ed up,i dont think so.

Im also in the habit of dealing with people who are in a hurry,dont read the item description only to find out AFTER BUYING that the item isnt designed to do what THEY thought it should do,even though i clearly write what the unit is capable of.

Ive been a powerseller on ebay for a long time & ive found out that the story most buyers & sellers give does not always match what the truth is.

This story isn't made up, you can look at my ballast and clearly see the wires connected in twist connectors and the light cable was cut too short.

This product was very poor and I am letting the community know.

when you PAY money for something and it doesn't work you return it. it is the responsibility of the person who sold it to you. regardless who manufactured it. they are representing the product by selling it. if it fails the store where purchased must take it back. then they in turn can return it to the manufacturer.

if i went to walmart and bought my son a Schwinn bicyle and got it home and found something wrong with it then i would return it to WALMART, not Schwinn.

panhead said:

What im in the habit of doing is dealing with asshole customers who want returns for invalid reasons, like their wife is bitching, so now their stupid ass wants me to eat $60 shipping cause they f-ed up,i dont think so.

Im also in the habit of dealing with people who are in a hurry,dont read the item description only to find out AFTER BUYING that the item isnt designed to do what THEY thought it should do,even though i clearly write what the unit is capable of.

Ive been a powerseller on ebay for a long time & ive found out that the story most buyers & sellers give does not always match what the truth is.

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well, now your comparing apples to oranges....Dude bought an item based on the description and received poorly manufactured merchandise....Is it unreasonable to expect a power seller to deliver what they promise...sounds like you approve of passing on the expense and disappointment of poor quality control to the customers/victims....Maybe you should post your ebay buisness name about now....I'm sure we'll all flock to be fleeced by you!!!!!

Ahh the beauty of a free market in action.

LoL at this thread beleave me HTG is the worst online site for grow equipment ever!

pompeii said:

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Now you act like your against them because fdd posted something against the company. Do you read posts or do you just look at a members post count and agree or disagree if they don't exceed a certain number? Start formulating your own ideas and thoughts and that will lead to creativity and originality, try it sometime and it will earn you more respect than your post count. Who knows you may contribute useful information to this fine community.

Now look at Joe's posts. There is evidence of thought. Joe appears to be a much more credible poster than you, so I will take his advice over yours. I don't say he's intelligent because he agrees with me, he just doesn't make foolish comments and posts like you.

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see i wasnt going to go there with you....but i see you've provoked it.

first off, your perception of thought-out conversations and intelligence is purely opinionated. everybody is entitled to their own opinion....just like you are entitled to your pitiful opinion. with that said... why in the flying fuck would i give a fuck about you comparing me to joepro in the intelligence field? i laugh at you and your retarded ballast.

second, are you implying that i am a dickrider? an ass kisser? brown nosing? well if you are....let me take the time to give you a BIG FUCK YOU dude. I kiss no ass around here. ITS KNOWN THAT I SPEAK MY MIND. I'm blunt as fuck, and i refuse to bite my tongue.... that shit hurts. With that being said... i bet you didnt know that Fdd recently banned me for speaking my own mind. So before you sit here and accuse and assume...maybe you should shut the fuck up and read some. Fdd knows i kiss no ass.... me and him have gotten into a few times, he knows how opinionated i am.

Third, how do you draw some stupid ass conclusion that 'im against them now because fdd posted' all because i said that TONY DOESNT ANSWER HIS EMAIL....... please tell me how you came to that conclusion, because if that isnt reaching and assuming, then i dont know what is.

Also i admitted i was wrong, because i had no knowledge of Tony making his own ballast. Shit i wouldnt even attempt or even think about ordering them cheap looking ballast. Learn how to go name brand. You go cheap, you will grow cheap.

Fourth, now i wasnt going to touch on this, but i said hey...fuck it..why not? Okay, you are talking all that shit, but why the hell did you buy a crappy looking ballast in the first place. You cant honestly sit up here and be mad because you went the cheap route and got a cheap product. IF ya didnt know, you get what you pay for..... nothing more, nothing less

LAST but not least. LMAO @ forming my own ideas and thoughts and choosing joepro's advice over mines..... you say that like imma cry if you dont take my advice or like i really care if you think im forming or not forming my ideas .... haha i really could give a fuck less.... you're nobody. nobody relevant to me

If I bought a new electric guitar off the internet and it showed up at my house in a non-working condition, I would immediately expect the store I bought it from to:

A. Issue a call tag so that the defective item is returned at their expense.
B. Immediately send a proper replacement via expedited shipping (without waiting for the defect to return).

Don't ask me to fix it, that's not my job.

Don't ask me to send it back at my expense, I didn't break it.

Treat me right, and I'll let everyone know you did and come back for more.

Treat me wrong, and I'll let every person I possibly can know that you did and never ship at your establishment again.

But what really blows me away, is that the owner of a hydro shop is actually participating openly on this board. Dude, you have got balls, big balls. You must need a wheelbarrow to carry those balls around.

Anyone doing business with a hydro storeowner that actively participates on a mj growing board ought to have their head examined.

VG