In a very bad trouble need Professional HELP

Hi,

I have a indoor grow and need help, i have 3x 1000w hps and 2x600w hps and one 200w led (just to get the heat down) i have a burner (combustion system) the room is sealed and there is no air coming in or out.
I have had the burner on 1500ppm but i just changed it to 1000 because i was reading it on the internet that its better.




so i have been in a very bad trouble because the plants are not feeling good and dying. It´s like the leaves get little bit down and then the whole plant goes down and dies.





I am using Atami nutrience now there is in 100l
100ml Hydro A
100ml Hydro B
200ml Atazyme
50ml Root stimulator

the root lies in a 100l tanks wit 3 big air stones in each tank.

the heat is around 26°

it´s not root rot, the root look fine can someone please tell me what could possible be wrong.

here are some more pictures of the system

Too many lights for tiny plants, water is too hot, water level could be low hydroton looks dry. lets see those roots. feel them for slime.

i will buy thermometer tomorrow for the water and check the heat, the water is full though. I am not at the place now but i will take picture tomorrow of the roots. But should they die because of this ?

thanks for the answer

If the water is hot they will die. look for a clear slime. You can get by with florescent lighting right now. You want the water temps below 68f/20c. You don't want the light getting into your water and you should change the water out every week. check the ph regularly.

hi,

i got some pictures

there is some slime the, how do i get it off ?

Tham bruh the plants are hot i know theres major nute burn and ph is off.
Now what is ur ppm.

Ok just saw them pics. U better start all over.
That set up isnt too efficient.
Just get some buckets and releave the heat

Siggi said:

hi,

i got some pictures

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Not good! You probably need to change the water every week. root rot will cause the ph to drop and lock out the plants. You need to cool the water off somehow after you change it out.

Add small amounts of Hydrogen Peroxide with each water or nute add.

This pathogen soup is the reason the plants look like crap and are dead or dying. Get some H202 35% grade + in there every 4 days to control this mess .

High temps are the root of the problem. I'm not sure what the dilution rate is for peroxide. I think its 3% diluted down three times with water. You could google it. Root rot peroxide treatment.

That's root rot alright. I had it on my first DWC grow. Dr. Pecker is right. I spent $30 or more on Hydroguard, and it works, but Hydrogen Peroxide is a lot cheaper, and it works, too.

Those roots are in a bad way my friend listen to the pecker .....lol .....for real though listen to pecker

Jesus Christ

Maybe you could dunk them in a peroxide solution at the ratio I suggested. They should foam up drop them right back in the holes for now. ask @Dr. Who , hes johnny on the spot with the hydro.

My advice (you dont have to take it, but it certainly is worth considering or at least reading about it and researching the subject) is to start with Heisenberg thread about beneficial microbes.
What I would do is:
1-Change the res and reduce the nutrients ppm making sure your environment is under control (make sure your res temp is in the high 60s or low 70s for this particular route and theres plenty of air being pumped into the reservoirs)
2-Apply GreatWhite at the recommended dose while waiting for Heisenberg tea to brew which takes 48 hours.
3-Brew the tea as follows:
a-in 2 gallons of water with airstones in to aeratr, add a half scoop of Great White a handful of Earthworm castings in a sock and dip it in the brew and a tablespoon molasses.
b-let this bubble for 48 hours. This will activate the beneficial organisms and get them ready to fight the bad slime organisms. Brewing the tea multiplies the organisms and diversifies your population to combat the slime then to prevent it.
c-apply the brew around the base of each plant to inoculate the roots. I cant remember the dose to combat disease but its in his thread. Good luck brother .... i know how devastating slime can be, but having tried the tea, I can assure you that with Heisenberg tea slime doesnt have to be THAT hard to fight

Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/

My advice you probably dont want to hear. Cut your losses. Turn every one of those dying plants into clones. Get as many clones as you can off every plant. Then switch to coco or some other grow medium. The room looks great. Plants look an inch away from death and you dont seem to be a pro yet. Id do something simple and then hit the hydro after a couple of successfull grows...like one table at a time until you get it dialed in with chillers and all the rest if thats the way you want to go. Hydro can be a total loss so quickly, soil or soiless, not so easy to kill off like youve done here. Good luck.

I'd use 50% h202 not food grade but proper hydro grade it's called oxy plus here's the directions I'd go 10 ml per 10 litres straight up then
After u have nice white roots drop it back to 1 ml per ten litres everyday

Alienwidow said:

My advice you probably dont want to hear. Cut your losses. Turn every one of those dying plants into clones. Get as many clones as you can off every plant. Then switch to coco or some other grow medium. The room looks great. Plants look an inch away from death and you dont seem to be a pro yet. Id do something simple and then hit the hydro after a couple of successfull grows...like one table at a time until you get it dialed in with chillers and all the rest if thats the way you want to go. Hydro can be a total loss so quickly, soil or soiless, not so easy to kill off like youve done here. Good luck.

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I agree with this u have so much light Iam jealous u should grow like 20 plants under mobile scrog screen and u would have a carpet of weed u have so much potentional
Hempys easy as fck mix nuts ph around 5.5 water till u get run off out hole and u only gotta feed every 2 to 4 days
I do 100% perlight 3 gal hempys
And screen em ea plant with. 50cm by 50 cm scrog I make outa bamboo and and plastic trellis Ea screen can be picked up cleaned under watered ect
Perlight is cheap 30 bucks gets me 100 litres of it
This is what it looks like 5 weeks into flower

I'll pull around 1 to 2 pounds off 4 plants using 1 600
Imagine what u could pull and it's easy as fck once u 2 weeks into flower u can do nothing but watch and water I use the h2o2 every second feed no organics just chems and h2o2
Plants healthy as fck

Thanks all for your answers
It has been very helpfull