I'm poor an can't afford ph down any other ways of lowering ph?

fir3dragon

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Late cell phone bill does not affect your credit, nor does rent, most utilities, or anything that is billed to you aside from revolving credit cards, unless it goes through collections unsuccessfully then its put on your report..I agree with him you should pay your grow first put off bills if you absolutely have to because the grow can pay them many times over but not if you mess it up!
im glad someone agrees with me...
 

kermit2692

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antisemitism is soooo cooool, gosh i wish i could be like you kermit!
If I call you a Fag i'm not being homophobic...the meanings of words change with time calling him a Jew was obviously the same as calling him cheap for peeing in his plants and not buying something for eight dollars..if someone is offended by my stereotype too bad stereotypes are derived from truth, if the truth hurts wear a helmet.
 

fir3dragon

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Yes there is, Ka equillibrium equation. pass a basic chem. course before asserting something like this.


certainly you gave a lot of your opinion and you did it in not the nicest of ways; your advice also did not address the actual question: what can i use instead of store-bought pH down?
then the piss flaming and irrational fallacious 'reasoning'

keep backpedaling...
since theres a formula to ph down.. i want to know how much to add to bring it from 7.0 to 4.0...
 

rwbrock

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This right here is a great example for all you noobs to be careful of the questions you ask and advice you receive on these boards. It is the blind leading the blind around here and just because you have however many posts in whatever amount of time or have lots green bubbles by your name doesn't mean a thing. There is some good advice in this post and it is fairly easy to figure who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't. It is a common theme around here but I will admit this thread is like that accident on the side of the road you don't want to see but have to look at! lol Good luck to you all in your grows, money or no money, piss or no piss.....lol
 

Dr.J20

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Late cell phone bill does not affect your credit, nor does rent, most utilities, or anything that is billed to you aside from revolving credit cards, unless it goes through collections unsuccessfully then its put on your report..I agree with him you should pay your grow first put off bills if you absolutely have to because the grow can pay them many times over but not if you mess it up!
late cell phone payments do in fact affect your credit, although, like i said, perhaps minutely (that means "not a whole lot"); not gonna argue this just look it up.

harming my credit? honestly.. fuck credit.. cash and carry...
good luck buying a home, big 23year old badass...you know what's what in the world eh?
Good luck brittle, i'm sure the acetic or citric acid will work, as will the fish-tank pH down; think about going organic though! far fewer moving parts!
be easy,
:leaf:
 

Nizza

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again i re-state...
urine will be bad in any hydro medium
coco, perlite, clay pebbles

you need something with an active biology for it to even work without screwing up your plants in the long run
like dr.J recommended, use soil next run, study the food web, keep your soil active. Urea nitrogen will work but it causes problems

there are organic growers that eat organically, and use their septic to fertilize crops. If you go to their house, you aren't allowed to use the shitter if you aren't 100% organic. understand this..

urea nitrogen is finicky, because the amount of nutrient in your pee depends on how you're eating, something else to understand

as i said earlier, you can make a lifetime supply of pH down with the link i provided , and as dr.j and others recommended, get a more forgiving medium (such as a buffered soil) to start with.

Coco will require pH meter or pH drops, and proper hydroponic nutes. If you use the wrong sources of NPK, they will do bad things to the medium because they don't break down (invite bad stuff)

hope that helps
 

Dr.J20

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This right here is a great example for all you noobs to be careful of the questions you ask and advice you receive on these boards. It is the blind leading the blind around here and just because you have however many posts in whatever amount of time or have lots green bubbles by your name doesn't mean a thing. There is some good advice in this post and it is fairly easy to figure who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't. It is a common theme around here but I will admit this thread is like that accident on the side of the road you don't want to see but have to look at! lol Good luck to you all in your grows, money or no money, piss or no piss.....lol

indeed.........*like*......and i know i'm contributing to the flames, for that, i apologize
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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precisely Mr.M, precisely; fir3dragon will continue to backpedal out of here like he offered perfectly reasonable advice to Brittle (OP) because trolls are incapable of self-assessment. that's how they stay trolls. He'll delude himself that he wasn't doing anything trollish and go on to the next thread to troll again, using his extraordinarily limited capacity for reason and discourse.
ha same^ "like"
 

fir3dragon

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late cell phone payments do in fact affect your credit, although, like i said, perhaps minutely (that means "not a whole lot"); not gonna argue this just look it up.



good luck buying a home, big 23year old badass...you know what's what in the world eh?
Good luck brittle, i'm sure the acetic or citric acid will work, as will the fish-tank pH down; think about going organic though! far fewer moving parts!
be easy,
:leaf:
im not a bad ass lmfao. never said i was.. and im not 23 i said i was 19... you got me mixed up for the op....

and im not interested in buying a home. i got a long ways to go before that...and also.. money talks.. save up 10-15k to put down on the house and im sure ull get it...
 

Dr.J20

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If I call you a Fag i'm not being homophobic...the meanings of words change with time calling him a Jew was obviously the same as calling him cheap for peeing in his plants and not buying something for eight dollars..if someone is offended by my stereotype too bad stereotypes are derived from truth, if the truth hurts wear a helmet.
while i generally actually agree with your take on language politics, it sadly is still considered homophobic (or antisemetic), by the majority of society, for you to use the terms "fag" (or "jew") derogatorily.
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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im not a bad ass lmfao. never said i was.. and im not 23 i said i was 19... you got me mixed up for the op....

and im not interested in buying a home. i got a long ways to go before that...and also.. money talks.. save up 10-15k to put down on the house and im sure ull get it...
one thing you have to think of, you have to figure a way to tell the IRS where that came from on your taxes, u buy a house, and there this extra money from a house purchase, that isn't adding up with your reported income vs expenses. theyre gonna look into that. what'd you think you think ya just hand a home owner a wad of cash??
 

Dr.J20

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so about.com blog posts now count as good research? i can find blog posts that say it does harm your credit. indeed, the link you posted says it could harm your credit, just as you pointed out, in the event that you have to go through a collection agency because the cell company sends one. but this has all gotten way too far afield. be easy
 

fir3dragon

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one thing you have to think of, you have to figure a way to tell the IRS where that came from on your taxes, u buy a house, and there this extra money from a house purchase, that isn't adding up with your reported income vs expenses. theyre gonna look into that. what'd you think you think ya just hand a home owner a wad of cash??
this is why i say fuck the government too. not even gonna go to the issue on taxes cause i can ramble on for weeks...
 

Dr.J20

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how much ph down do i need to bring it from 7.0-4.0? a cup? two cups? seven gallons???
ok so i can reply now that you quoted me, yes?
did you read the page from UC-Davis? you want to see a change from 7.0 to 4.0 so that would go in which ICE column?
 
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