I'm an older adult who has never taken a single puff.

meee223

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Well, I finally ran into a guy who was into pot and we passed around a joint a few times. So, let me ask you guys. Why do you enjoy doing this? I inhaled deeply, held it in a bit, and did this every single time, but I can honestly say I didn't feel any different at all. How much and how long do I have to smoke in order to feel anything? Am I unusual or what?
 

beans davis

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If you slammed 4 shots of tequila then drank a shot at least every 10 min for an hour like you said and didnt feel anything youre wasting your time with weed.
Get some acid 600-1000ug like back in the day....if you dont feel that double the dose.
 

JackDraak

Member
How much and how long do I have to smoke in order to feel anything? Am I unusual or what?
Many, many people report "not getting high" the first time(s) they try cannabis. The first time I tried it, I didn't identify any changes in perception or thought processes either.

I've been an off-and-on cannabis user since I was 17. Recently I went a decade without using once, and now I use on a daily basis. Note that - I use every day, from within the first couple hours of getting out of bed until an hour or two before going back to bed. Now, note this: I "get high" with as little as one small puff off of a pipe. Often, I get significant relief from pain, spasms, nausea, insomnia and lack of appetite (to name a few things that cannabis helps me with) without using enough cannabis to be overwhelmed with "being high"... in-fact, being high is rarely overwhelming... when I'm "doing it right" I typically only like to be very mildly stoned like that... where you don't necessarily even notice that you're altered... If I go "beyond" that degree of stoned I quickly enter into the "couchlock zone" where physical motivation begins to be sapped (this, I only do at night, in order to help with my insomnia).

So - at this very moment I've been out of bed an hour. I had about six small drags from a vaporizer (had some Jack Herer left-over in the crucible from last night). If I'm "distracted" I wouldn't even notice that I'm high... if I pause a moment and take inventory (pain level under a 5? have that "inner glow" feeling?) then I can tell I'm high (yes, pain is 5 or less, and I have what I can only describe as a deep internal warmth that radiates positive energies through my body OR no, pain is a 5+ and I lack any "high" in my central nervous system).

As others have said, probably half or more of the people you see each day have smoked pot before. Of those, a great many do so with some regularity. Most don't know most of the others because the powers that be continue to reinforce the stigma associated with cannabis.

I would hardly argue that "pot is for everyone", even though it's been shown to have so many positive health effects... some people can't handle the way it alters their frame of mind or their physical sensations. Most would describe being "high" as having one or more of the following characteristics:

- a generalized euphoric state, perhaps leading to "perma-grin" or the giggles
- a "refinement" of perception... intensifying and/or clarifying link between your conscious mind and your perceptive channels (vision, taste, smell, etc.)
- the potential to facilitate the user achieving "separation" from deeply held convictions and beliefs, and the tandem construction of empathetic links/concepts that may be rather foreign to you (arguably it's "most dangerous" effect, because it can permanently awaken people to some of the things that are seriously broken in our culture; between that and the fact that legal hemp production would yank vast amounts of market-share from some of the largest corporations on the planet it's not really all that shocking that it remains prohibited world-wide)
- at higher doses, a feeling of being sucked into your seat ("couchlock") possibly even mental lethargy or sleepiness

Keep in mind, as well, that as a natural product with a great deal of variety in it's chemical composition (the effect doesn't come from a single active ingredient... every time you smoke the herb you get different levels of MANY different cannabinoids) and this is why the advent of quasi-legal dispensaries saw such an increase in "named strains"... as horticulturalists select for specific traits, they have the ability to produce seed with a phenotype expressing a fairly specific balance of active ingredients. In general, pot smokers recognize two general categories for the different strains allowing for any given strain to be discussed (in part) as a ratio of these two characteristics. You've got Indica and Sativa... the Indicas are denser plants that grow faster, while the Sativas tend to be tall and lanky and grow more slowly. To simplify matters, think of a pure and potent Indica as a bud that can provide great benefit to people who tend to have too much energy and too little focus while a pure Sativa would generally be a more "social" or "brain" high (vs. the "body" high characteristics of Indica). Some people find a Sativa helps with social anxiety, while others find it makes them paranoid -- fairly opposite effects.

So, while there is a "simplicity" to discussing the effect of this herb vs. that herb, once you factor-in how each individual responds to it, you can toss-out all of your assumptions.

I would encourage you to go to a locality with a dispensary; talk to a doctor who knows about cannabis to determine if it may be beneficial for you. Talk to the budtenders about their product. Grab a gram each of a few different products, and a bong a pipe or a vaporizer. Start SLOW. Take one "hit".... literally within seconds (if it's got decent potency) you *should* be able to perceive some of the effects of the active ingredients. Wait at least 5-15 minutes before taking another hit, and again get in your head and interrogate your senses and thoughts... notice how the cannabis is effecting you. I would expect that you'll notice at least 3 states:

1 - I'm not high yet
2 - Ahhh.... this is nice....
3 - Oh shit, I'm really stoned, man.

Once you get to know yourself and your herb you'll find there are many levels between 2 and 3.... past 3 is sleep. The next day (or several hours later) try a different product and repeat the process of "getting to know" it and how it works in your body.

Now, if you are ONLY interested in this as a recreational activity, some of what I've said may seem immaterial. High is high, right? Well, not really... you can't really compare intoxication by alcohol to being altered with cannabinoids, in my opinion, but perhaps that's because I'm a connoisseur who perceives, understands and enjoys the subtle nuance from toke to toke -- be it the qualities of the flavour, the scent or the high, each bud is unique... there is more to appreciate here than in a selection of fine wines, if that's what appeals to you.
 

MrDank007

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This happened my first couple times. Nothing happened. I was the dork that kept saying am I high? And then I think it was the 4th attempt....I knew!
 

LordRalh3

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Ive been an almost constant smoker for almost 20 years now, I enjoy many different aspects of it, mainly I like how I can ignore my back enough to function almost completly normaly (something I couldnt do with vicoden, oxycodone, or tylenol3, but I also love the neural aspects as well, thc and other cannabinnoids really do wonders for the senses...litterally things are just more enjoyable, bad things are more tollerable.
 

mindphuk

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This happened my first couple times. Nothing happened. I was the dork that kept saying am I high? And then I think it was the 4th attempt....I knew!
Same thing with me. I have never read an explanation of why this seems to occur so often. Some people definitely get super high their very first time and others report no effect. I wonder if for some reason we have to 'wake up' the cannabinoid receptors or something. :???:
 

Pipe Dream

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Hey, we have an annual Global Marijuana March followed by an all day thing in a park. For this event, smoking weed is ok and the law never bothers anyone. I've seen it on tv and in the papers and I think it's sometime in April or May. Maybe I should go down and even though selling it is strictly prohibited there, maybe I can ask someone for a joint, emphasizing I've never had one before. Think they'd give me one for free?
I'm sure they would just to see the reaction. There's nothing wrong with being curious epecially with all the misinformation out there. See for yourself what it is all about and remember to enjoy yourself. It shouldn't take much a couple hits and the effects should kick in. It's not just the high that we enjoy, it's the intoxicating aromas and the experience itself. Good luck.
 

NoDrama

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I am in my 50's also, I have smoked since I was 14. Most people could never tell. Some of my lifelong friends don't even know.
 

dannyboy602

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50's here. Good genetics. Read what guys are growing. See the top sellers on Attitude. You may have to try a few dif strains before you find one you like.
 
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