If plants need 100% darkness during flowering, how do they do it outside?

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col.forbin

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...withoutbecoming hermies? The stars and the moon are usually bright enoughto where u can see, but when I tell someone how there is a dim crack of light getting into my flowering room during darkness, im not I have no chance and will get hermies. This makes no F^#^*(# sense to me....will someone be kind enough to explain this?
 
AllAboutIt

AllAboutIt

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col.forbin said:
...withoutbecoming hermies? The stars and the moon are usually bright enoughto where u can see, but when I tell someone how there is a dim crack of light getting into my flowering room during darkness, im not I have no chance and will get hermies. This makes no F^#^*(# sense to me....will someone be kind enough to explain this?
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good point..not to mention bright lightning
 
h8red1

h8red1

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yeah moon and stars dont have enough lumen to let OFF enough for plants 2 STRTESS and turn HERMIE..kinda make sense???? SUN extracts way more light THEN MOON
 
Got#'sbutstillsmokeroache

Got#'sbutstillsmokeroache

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I don't get it either but I can tell you this, I have turned plenty of plants into hermies by letting some light in during dark hours. I always thought the same thing as you about the moon and all that but take it from experience, don't let any light in on your ladies during dark hours.
 
MrFishy

MrFishy

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IMO, only plants exposed to complete blackness are prone to hermie from interruption.
I mean, plants moved to a dimly lit area daily for 12-14 hrs, like a curtained room, will start to flower naturally.

It's the complete blackness that demands same.
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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A small amount of herm on a plant isn't bad, gives you seeds to grow your next crop :) Now if you're talking the whole plant pollinates its self well that's bad.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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The light at night from sunlight reflected off the moon and the light from stars has traveled so far and is so weak and it has been reflected and refracted and diffused so much that to a plant it is virtually nonexistent. To the plant it is almost the same as not being hit by any light at all.

But when you have yourself a nice little light leak where what seems to be only a small amount of light but is still a more direct more focused type of light leaking in and striking plants and you have hermies.
 
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col.forbin

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Got#'sbutstillsmokeroache said:
I don't get it either but I can tell you this, I have turned plenty of plants into hermies by letting some light in during dark hours. I always thought the same thing as you about the moon and all that but take it from experience, don't let any light in on your ladies during dark hours.
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My problem is that light is getting through the A/C vents (its a window unit). ?Im trying my best to cover all light, but its not working. Not to mention, this damn zipper I bought for the tarp - it lets light in!! I really need to get a good camera, which will be soon. I may have to construct my room differently - I use the A/C unit for my fresh air, but mainly to keep the plants cool.

Any suggestions?

Thanks everyone:)
 
naked gardener

naked gardener

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My humble and educated guess leads to breeding genetics--decades of breeding seeds/strains to be cultivated indoors--under COMPLETE darkness as to stimulate more intense resin production which happens during dark cycle.
Also, as Brick Top said, moon/star light is relatively weak--but is very natural to any plant growing OUTDOORS--indoors on the other hand--it likely won't be moon and starlight from millions and millions of miles away--it will be more intense and artificial (even if it just a small leak)--unnatural under any circumstances for a plant needing darkness and is thus a signal that the environment may not be stable--life may end--REPRODUCE!!

Again, just a humble guess from a site newbie..so take it as you will :peace:
 
stinkbudd1

stinkbudd1

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:peace::joint::mrgreen:great post im worried about the same thing as well my grow will be flowering in my bed room closet when i walk in the closet and shut the door it is really dark in there yet at the bottom there is som light leakage not much but there so im thinking would a towel be ok at the bottom and go on or what? oh whats up bricktop..peace pot prosperity
 
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GoinGreen09

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Also, for plants in the wild, seeds wouldn't matter as they would need them to continue to reproduce, and would be an important part of continueing in the wild. Just my $.02
 
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snodegd

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col.forbin said:
My problem is that light is getting through the A/C vents (its a window unit). ?Im trying my best to cover all light, but its not working. Not to mention, this damn zipper I bought for the tarp - it lets light in!! I really need to get a good camera, which will be soon. I may have to construct my room differently - I use the A/C unit for my fresh air, but mainly to keep the plants cool.

Any suggestions?

Thanks everyone:)
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If you want to eliminate the lights that are coming through your a/c vents that is simple. Go to hardware store or online and order a a carbon air filter replacement for a furnace(look for ones for pet odors usually a green and black material used) then cut t o size of vent, take the vent off place and thin filter material in the vent put vent cover back on. This will block your light and help clean the air going in to your grow area.


If light is leaking on the sides of the a/c unit then go buy the spray installation in a can or put some velcro strips and attach to all for sides with whatever your using for sides.
 
breakneck

breakneck

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You don't need 100% darkness during flowering... common myth. Those are just the IDEAL/PERFECT conditions. This is the whole reasoning for growing indoors, to create a perfect growing environment.

Also the equation of Light/Distance plays a lot into it. Our lights are VERY close to the plants indoors, outdoors the light travels some 90 million miles before reaching your plants... it takes a much more intense light like the sun to grow outdoors. The light being reflected off of the moon and stars has almost no intensity here on the ground. Somewhere in the 10 lumens per square foot ballpark while the sun puts out about 5000 in the same space.
 
stinkbudd1

stinkbudd1

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breakneck said:
You don't need 100% darkness during flowering... common myth. Those are just the IDEAL/PERFECT conditions. This is the whole reasoning for growing indoors, to create a perfect growing environment.

Also the equation of Light/Distance plays a lot into it. Our lights are VERY close to the plants indoors, outdoors the light travels some 90 million miles before reaching your plants... it takes a much more intense light like the sun to grow outdoors. The light being reflected off of the moon and stars has almost no intensity here on the ground. Somewhere in the 10 lumens per square foot ballpark while the sun puts out about 5000 in the same space.
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so you are saying im going to be ok with my closet for flowering its pretty dark in there i was in there testing it lolthe only light comes from the floor area but when i put a towel on the area its ok..i kind of agree with you what kind of lumen count can you get from a crack in the closet with very little light being introduced into the flowering area.. so i guess im going to go for it..but ill still do all i can to get as much light out as possible...peace pot prosperity:peace::joint::mrgreen:
 
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