ICURBYOUs WhiteWidow CFL dresser growbox

I think overwatering??? I dont know man. I'm not watering it, and it APPEARS to be looking better but it's a little early to tell.. It's very stressful!! I feel for you.

downthedrains said:

Glad to see they perked back up again

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Thanks! I am going to read your journal here soon.

Update: Built my filter

I forgot to let you guys know I built my filter.
I saw this method used on another forum. I'm unsure if it works. I held it over my face and tried to smell my homies pizza the other night, but it was more of a joke.... I didnt smell the pizza though. haha.

Anyways... here are a few pics to stimulate your optics

Sewing panty hose onto a pencil cup


Not too bad. I like to view myself as the Martha Stuart of growing... (not really)


Holes in the bottom of the smaller pencil cup, then I poured in the carbon... as you can tell it got all over the floor... I also stuffed cotton in there to seal it up so the carbon doesnt fall out someday.






I could cut this end off but I kinda like it. Reminds me of a hoodlum robbing a litquor store with panty hose on their face


Deep up inside.. mmmm yeah

they look like they are going to be okay now for sure.

Dude, I am glad that they are doing better! I think maybe they are just going through a rebellious phase... you know how kids can be! That filter looks pretty good! Have your plants started to become noticably smelly outside of the dresser? I love the hoodlum bit! I wish that I could diagnose this problem with your plants.do you think that maybe a transplant will help them? Growth had slowed on my plant until I transplanted and it sped right back up. Maybe your plants are getting rootbound?


Whatchya think?
First off I think "Hell Yeah!" about your cooltube! I, myself, will stick to the CFL's and might just get a couple of t5's after these lights go, but I think that you have a solid plan there! If I could get my fan out of the way I would have room for a whole other Johnnie! Have you done space tests and seen how much extra room you will actually have? You could also nail your power strip with the timers on it to the upper side-wall and that will keep both the timers out of the way and your wiring off the ground! How/where are you going to mount your carbon filter?

Transplant before flower?
I would say definitely! I have only done this once, but it seems to me that if you are extra careful and turn your plants upside down and let the root mass slide out with gravity, you run less risk of causing stress. Just take preventative measures for dirt spills because the loose dirt on the top spreads out real good! LOL I don't mean to sound preachy or anything. I know that you have done transplants before and all that...



Good luck!

hackel said:

Dude, I am glad that they are doing better! I think maybe they are just going through a rebellious phase... you know how kids can be! That filter looks pretty good! Have your plants started to become noticably smelly outside of the dresser? I love the hoodlum bit! I wish that I could diagnose this problem with your plants.do you think that maybe a transplant will help them? Growth had slowed on my plant until I transplanted and it sped right back up. Maybe your plants are getting rootbound?


Whatchya think?
First off I think "Hell Yeah!" about your cooltube! I, myself, will stick to the CFL's and might just get a couple of t5's after these lights go, but I think that you have a solid plan there! If I could get my fan out of the way I would have room for a whole other Johnnie! Have you done space tests and seen how much extra room you will actually have? You could also nail your power strip with the timers on it to the upper side-wall and that will keep both the timers out of the way and your wiring off the ground! How/where are you going to mount your carbon filter?

Transplant before flower?
I would say definitely! I have only done this once, but it seems to me that if you are extra careful and turn your plants upside down and let the root mass slide out with gravity, you run less risk of causing stress. Just take preventative measures for dirt spills because the loose dirt on the top spreads out real good! LOL I don't mean to sound preachy or anything. I know that you have done transplants before and all that...



Good luck!

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Ive been wondering if they are rootbound. I mean, they had TONS of roots just 1 week into their lives. I am definitely going to do the transplant. I just dont have the room until the new shit comes. I realized, its coming on Wedndesday.. I think I said friday on here but that was wrong.

I should hopefully have this all done by Fri night.

Last night my girlfriend said she could smell it in the whole bedroom. I asked what it looked like and she said "Plant and pine".

I could put the strip up on the wall, Its where I have my Light and my fan strips. I am going to overhaul the box. It'll be much better. I just need these damn plants to do better.

Im going to mount the filter on my exhaust fan. Just right up on top. I will take tons of pics of everything when I do it

Plants arent looking as good this evening as they were this morning... but whatever.. I told the guys in my water issue thread that I wouldnt water for 5 days... so... Im 2 days in now.

Days since ground-break: 29 days
Number of plants: 2
Lights: (5)26w, (2)23w CFL
Lumens: 1600 (x7 = 11,200)
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temps: 77ºF
Nutes: On Hold.

The stress and woes of #3 and Ms. Charlotte
My babies arent doing too great. They arent DEAD or anything but that have halted growth for sure. They are no longer BOOMING as they once were.

I have another thread going about my "watering" issue. I was instructed by another member of the forum to attempt to 'not water the plants for 5 days'. Get them good and dry so that I can kind of figure out when I should be watering. I was 2.5 days into the 5 day mark and they couldn't take it. #3 was looking TERRIBLE. I've never seen her appear so droopy.. and turning YELLOW!

I watered them and left for work.

I feel like I am dealing with a race against time right now, but at a very slow pace. Let me explain..

I really want to transplant these things. I feel that there are 2 issues going on. 1) the water issue 2) pot-size.
I have to admit that my roots were champions at only a week old. After I put them into the 1.5gal pots the roots were at the drainholes QUICK!
I want to transplant them into larger pots, but I dont have the room because of the huge fan, but I wont need that huge fan once I get my HPS/cooltube. I will run a SMALLER fan. But the HPS isnt here until tomorrow and the cooltube is WHO KNOWS how far out. You know how people on ebay are.

So, fuckit.. I am going to get some 4gal or so pots today. Right after work.. Straight to HD, get the pots, and then I go home. I am going to transplant them tonight. If they dont fit in the box, well fuckit then. I will rigg up another solution.

Tomorrow I will get my light, and I will wire everything up tomorrow afternoon. I will only be waiting on my cooltube.... I should be able to get that bad boy thrown together relatively quick, I mean.. it's a glass tube for crying outloud. Just need to hook it to the ducts and i'll be good.

So... I guess my plan goes like this:

Tues (today): Go buy all the parts for lighting/cooltube setup, buy larger pots... then TRANSPLANT.
Wed: If UPS is on time, receive light and do all the wiring and get it basically laid out and ready to go.
Thurs: Cut new holes in the box, install the ducting on both sides, and prepare it so that when I get the tube I can just slap it in there.

Then... wait for cooltube.

Sigh...

Here are the sick little fellas in an animated GIF:

I would transplant ASAP, I found it easiest to water the plants just a bit, wait an hour or so, then flip the pots upside down with your hand covering as much as possible, and then put into the new pot, and give a 40oz watering, within a few days your girls will love you. I was rootbound in 1.5g pots within 2 weeks of vegg.

bxke, I think youre right. Thank you for the advice on how to do it and for your confidence!

I asked my girl this morning while I was in the shower, "So, you think if I just like put my hand at the base of the trunk and tip over the pot??... I mean, with the party cup I could kinda squeeze the cup a little and loosen it, but I cant squeeze the pot"

So, sounds like I had the right idea..

Im feeling good about this whole transplant thing.

and yes, I talk about my plants to my girl while Im showering. Dont judge me! lol

Haha no judging here. After I transplanted to 3 gallon pots the plants just took off, bet ya if you transplant today by thursday morning they will be all perked up.

Im thinking of hitting some 5gals... But Im not sure. Wouldnt want to overkill it. Im doing 4gal at least. What'd'you think?

good luck curb. scary stuff. weird that your plants couldn't take 5 days without water. I'm in a 2 gallon pot, not even filled and the soil takes a week to dry after watering about 2 litres. Question: what medium are you growing in? perhaps the water isn't being held in the soil and is just running through. maybe get some kickass medium for the transplant. I'm using PRO MIX and it seems to hold air and water nicely. maybe your soil isn't holding air and the roots are growing to the bottom to search for it where they are being drowned. no idea - i'm a novice - but just some thoughts to think about.

super curious as to the effectiveness of the carbon filter. keep us posted.

also an idea might be to throw some really weak solution of nutes in. maybe they are missing some key mineral? what ph is your water? do you know your soil ph?

ireally though, t's not rocket science - you seem pretty capable so fear not, i'm sure good times are just around the corner.

I am using the FoxFarm Forest stuff. I see tons of people suggesting it so I think it's good soil?? I hope so cuz I am NOT buying another bag of dirt! Shit was expensive! haha.

My water pH is high (7.0 with my test kit)... But the plants were booming before with the exact same level water so I don't see a relation there. I have no clue the soil pH, would it say it on the bag? Or would I need some sort of tester to know that?

Yeah, i think the new pots and my newfound watering structure will be just the trick for my treats..... YOU LIKE THAT HALLOWEEN INUENDO?

Get square pots so you can maximize your floor area/pot size ratio.

They make square ones? I'll have to try to find some like that. Good idea man. Thanks!

Yeah square ones are good for maximizing the area...also...umm the grow bags are good too because they are somewhat shapeable and they also make square ones

Bags scare me.. I could see me fucking something up with that. I will try to find some square pots! Thats a real good idea guys. I apreesh!

icurbyou said:

Bags scare me.. I could see me fucking something up with that. I will try to find some square pots! Thats a real good idea guys. I apreesh!

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Pshhhh weeny...Once they get full they're really sturdy
Then again I really like the comfort of a big ol' plastic pot

Days since ground-break: STILL 29 days
Number of plants: 2
Lights: (5)26w, (2)23w CFL
Lumens: 1600 (x7 = 11,200)
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temps: 77ºF
Nutes: On Hold.

Let me start this by saying that I figured out what the problem was.... I realized after the transplant and everything, that when this whole thing started I did change their environment. I put something in there I should never have put in the box. Something that is too tainted with deception and horror that it is clear now why my plants got sick... It was.... The Holy Bible. LMFAO. Really tho... The same time I put it in there to prop up the fan was the same time they went a array.

On a more serious note..

Okay.. I went to HomeDepot as promised... I couldnt find any 4gal pots and the 5 gals were too big to fit 2 in my box. I could not for the LIFE of me find square ones that would even closely fit at all! !!!!

I decided on the biggest one I could find that would fit. They are 3gal. The way I see it, it's twice the size and I got a 5gal.. You know, the orange one that HomeDepot sells with their logo and character on it? Yeah.. I snagged one just in case one of my kids is a male. Then I will put the female in the 5gal and put her in the box alone!!

I did the transplant with my girlfriend.. Who by the way is angry at me

It was pretty simple.. I took a few pics of the roots as best I could with one hand on the plant and another hand holding my iphone.

I cant fit the friggin lights at the distance I should.. I have so much shit in the way, etc. I really need to figure something out! EDIT: Figured it. Lowered it to an inch or two above the plants.

But it's looking good so far.

I didnt water them after the transplant since I just watered them this morning!

Here goes...

This is how they were when I got home from work. Still looking perky. This is the last time you were see them in these pots.


I figured out the culprit!



#3's naked butt!


Another shot of that pale ass








Charlotte's roots




#3


Charlotte

OMG! I knew the bible was bad! jk jk