ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Ya I live in the desert (only for one more year, then moving WAY north, and out East to show them whats up with the western style IWE) and I am currently searching for a shared facility for IWE and edibles. Walk in Freezer or at least some big AC units would be the shizz! I love the cold even though I am skinny and need to layer to be comfortable in it. (A 60 mile day carving snomos in the deep pow anyone?!!!) When I am spinning fast out in the cold, it keeps me moving faster to not freeze solid so the hash and the time it takes are both improved. Except my 25 degree run where my patties were crystalizing on the drying screen before the moisture wicked out!!! Interestingly this (outdoor grown) hash run came out very full flavored and melty. It was mostly Flo and even the 38 is dabbable and lots of full melt 70 and some 90. Running big loads and big machines is great... specially when you need a bigger spoon to get the piles out in one swipe!!! Too cool bro, have fun out there, but like you already said don't hold your breath for the dutch to jump on the IWE train. Slow and steady seems to be the way they like their "progress".

PS You snomo being from "backwoods" and that far north no? Before I move east I yearn to do a trip up thru CO, WY and MT? Winter 2014 it is.
PSS F the 25 when running HUGE loads, unless it has its own drain and is not holding up the yielding bags! Or get them to get you an all mesh

I did my first run of ice wax this past weekend and some things did not go as planned. If when my hash / ice wax was placed on the micron screen and dried it did not come to a full melt. How do i properly dry the ice wax? was it to hot in the room i had it dry?

Full melt or not has mostly to do with genetics.

edit: fixed micron sizes

A good morning's work. This started as 18 oz of fresh-frozen White Widow x Blueberry.

Also, in honor of Chef Rize, my contribution toward "kitchen tools that rock for ice hash production", the small offset spatula.

Sup folks,

just gonna show some love from the uk, have to say my hash is ten times better now I've found matts guide.
was using mila's way for nearly two years till I found bubbleman. Found matt about 2 weeks ago, and props too subcool as I saw matts IWE course that sub filmed!

im sorry if this has been answered, I've read upto page 89 and haven't seen much comment on this. Over here dabs aren't big, I bet most people don't even know what they are, so once I've scooped the 'patty' from the bags, can I just leave it in blob instead of grating and let it dry like that? I'm gonna try grating but I prefer my hash in balls, dunno why, maybe cos I'm used to hash like this, and Ive found that the hash from bags is sooo good it just breaks up and fluffs up between your fingers.

I do have about 15g of shiva ice hash I fucked up because I was misinformed! I pressed it while it must have been still damp, and now it's just crumbley and won't press at all, I presume it's because ive pressed water molecules into the resin heads. I'm really pissed off as it was red and I've never seen red hash, now it just looks like heroin, no shit, same color, same consistency (not that im a expert but have seen it before!). If I was stopped with it, I'd be arrested for heroin not hash, lol.
anyways I'm gonna save I for sum ediles.

Anyways thought I'd let you know that a few folks are Rizing Up in the UK too!

TrichomeBob said:

Sup folks,

just gonna show some love from the uk, have to say my hash is ten times better now I've found matts guide.
was using mila's way for nearly two years till I found bubbleman. Found matt about 2 weeks ago, and props too subcool as I saw matts IWE course that sub filmed!

im sorry if this has been answered, I've read upto page 89 and haven't seen much comment on this. Over here dabs aren't big, I bet most people don't even know what they are, so once I've scooped the 'patty' from the bags, can I just leave it in blob instead of grating and let it dry like that? I'm gonna try grating but I prefer my hash in balls, dunno why, maybe cos I'm used to hash like this, and Ive found that the hash from bags is sooo good it just breaks up and fluffs up between your fingers.

I do have about 15g of shiva ice hash I fucked up because I was misinformed! I pressed it while it must have been still damp, and now it's just crumbley and won't press at all, I presume it's because ive pressed water molecules into the resin heads. I'm really pissed off as it was red and I've never seen red hash, now it just looks like heroin, no shit, same color, same consistency (not that im a expert but have seen it before!). If I was stopped with it, I'd be arrested for heroin not hash, lol.
anyways I'm gonna save I for sum ediles.

Anyways thought I'd let you know that a few folks are Rizing Up in the UK too!

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it's essential that you grate the hash up. otherwise water will essentially bind to the hash.

you can make it into balls after it's dried and cured in powdered form. I can speak for matt rize on this one since I've basically almost mastered this method.

holy fuck if thats all you got from 18oz I would be destroying my bubble bags.

theres gotta be more hash than that.

you dont mean 18, fully sellable for full price ozs do you?

No, 18 oz of fresh, frozen trim. Figure it would be ~ 3-4 oz dry.

poplars said:

it's essential that you grate the hash up. otherwise water will essentially bind to the hash.

you can make it into balls after it's dried and cured in powdered form. I can speak for matt rize on this one since I've basically almost mastered this method.

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thx mate, I had a stoner moment when I posted that, after reading your answer I knew the answer, lol. It's what ive been doing.

i'll mention the main reason I like to press it is for storage, I have more weed and hash than i know what to do with and have decided to hash half my grows from now on. I have a weird stance on my growing, I won't sell any, or give any away for free, if I get knicked then, I know in my mind I'm right and all I'm doing is growing a plant, no other person has been harmed/smoked/touched my product so i can't be accused of encouraging people to smoke or profiteering from it.
I have to smoke cannabis for medical reasons, until I started growing, I was putting money into drug dealers hands, fair enough most people I bought from were ok, but some weren't and could have used my money for other things.

so, I decided to grow it, I pay all my bills and the government is the only one (apart from grow shops/electric companies) that now profits from my growing (through taxes) so I feel completely justified to grow weed and if the filth really want to arrest me for it, then what the fuck can I do, the worlds already fucked up!

anyways rant over.

bob.

p.s. I will just mention m not a selfish fucker tho! Lol, if u know me and are round my house, I will get you severely messed up. But I need a letter from your doctor!

Hey RIU I was wondering has anyone ever tested their wax? What percents are achieved and how potent is it compared to bho?

Good made wax is just as potent as BHO as far as testing. The starting product directly affects the outcome of the test. More potent strains are going to test higher than low potency strains but the tests are supposed to be totally comparable. This is what ive kinda picked up from listening to Matt and a few others talk Wax vs BHO. I would like to hear a more in depth answer tho than mine.

Great thread! Thanks for sharing the info Mr. Rize.....Only confused on to not put ice in the work bag or to put ice in?

Is that a human lifetime, a thc lifetime or a butane lifetime?
Also any chance you could back that up with a source please?

Lots have people had their wax tested, usually in the range 40%-80%.
BHO ranges 50-90%, though some are lower and the odd on may be higher depending on method/strain.
Most cannabis flowers ranges from 5% to 32% (that's Highest I've seen)

all these are THC values.

ive seen CBD values in extracts at 30% plus and 10-15% in flowers

Also pressing hash doesn't fuck it up, grating up your hash and leaving it like that is just preference, I actually prefer making my hash differently to matt, neither of us are wrong or better, just different tastes.
i PERSONALLY think hash tastes nicer how i make it, the majority of the terpenes are still there and it tastes nicer than when I've grated it up. Also it lasts a lot longer and I can store it, I make waaaay more Than I can smoke and it degrades too quickly when it's grated.

Though if I was in Matts position I may be different, if I could pass on mosT the stuffing grow, I'd prob make more wax but I'd still press some, having a bowl of wax amongst friends is a lot easier than a lump of hash. But again, PERSONALLY nothing beats a nice piece of soft fresh hash to play around with!

did you mix it around at all within that 2 days? i tend to mix mine up every few hours and to make sure the temps still cold. i keep mine drying in a cupboard with a few icepacks...stellar results so far...

I was saying IF they wanted to make balls.

what's with the hostility? I"m deleting your post.

Hey matt how do you feel about milas bubbleator? they are easier to access here in Europe without having to pay alot of shipping, do you like her bags? if not i can order payload bags the shipping on those are not too expensive from aqualabs! thank you!

Matt Rize said:

Poplars. fuck off bro, you are just trolling this thread. You are talking shit on talking shit, while talking shit. Thats epic fail status.

I will never care what you think about me, what you think of my business, or any of that. I make the best extracts in the entire MMj game, I have earned my spot. Being nice did not get me here. I will talk shit on whoever I feel like. PLEASE do not respond, PLEASE UNSUB from this thread.

WORD IS BORN.

Larry OG ice wax

Blackberry Kush ice wax, and SourD from the Shatter Bros

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Oh dear god, I just searched 133 pages just to find this picture of that hash bowl right there. Can I please get a picture of the full pipe if possible?

The hash thing I already got covered and now that I know that Larry OG makes such excellent hash. I'm going to go pick up a cut, since I'm an OC native it should be pretty easy