cannachef
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freezing the patty will lock all the moisture in.
ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize
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greenghost420
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i grate and dry asap, i also forgot to mention i dry the patty as much as i can before freezing it .
GrowBrooklyn
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Do you have a reference for that? I find it surprising since freezers are fairly dry environments. This should cause moisture to come to the surface of the hash and evaporate. This is why modern self-defrosting freezers are more prone to causing food to get freezer burn. My own experience is that my hash *seems* to drys more quickly after being frozen and I attribute that to the moisture being pulled to the surface as it solidifies, but I'm just guessing.
greenghost420
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^^ i was thinking the same. i also forget that everyone isnt making small amounts like me so i dont have to spend alot of time drying.
greenghost420
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how would the cannachef make cannasoda?
cannachef
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that is a great question, and something i planned to look into at some point. Im guessing it'll take a bit of a investment for the right equipment.
bowlfullofbliss
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with a basic beer making setup, it is easy to make root beer and flavored sodas.......wine and mead. I'm going to hunt down a recipe and check this out.....I have all equipment already I think.
greenghost420
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^^ make a thread and shoot me the link when you do please!
Baywatcher
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Are you using wet or dry trim? What size bags? Green = beat-up plant matter.
OLD DUDE
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I have did it all, wet frozen, wet fresh, dry frozen, dry not frozen! Green, orange, and white bags! When I say I do it exactly like Matt does in the video, I mean I do it exactly like he does it!!!!! I agitate for 10 minutes with a machine! It's good but just doesn't look good!!!
Baywatcher
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You might want to try and 8-bag set for better separation, but it also may simply be that Matt simply uses a better starting product.
Kalyx
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Agreed it is probably the farm and not the extractor. Some herb doesn't hold up to IWE. Keep in mind also that it has taken years to go from bubble to ice wax for most of us hash makers. Matt did you a favor, just read up and practice. Growing (and varieties) has as much or more to do with getting to ice wax as the actual extraction. Dank in Dank out Rize UP!
greenghost420
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im about to make some tonight myself!
HAZEOHOLIC
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Hey rize don't know if this question has been asked I could not find it but if the hash stays lit what does that mean good? Or bad? Thanks
cannachef
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high quality trim only needs to be washed for about 3 min. that is why you are getting the green. if i wash for 10 min i get green too, but at 3 min. i get gold. i go 3 min first run, and 6-8 second run. once i insulate everything i will most likely try 3 - 3 min. washes.
Thanks so much Kalyx and everyone else for the pointers. Each time we do a load, I look for anything we can do differently to be more in accordance with Mr. Rize's instructions. I have been drying in a closet with a fan at about 65% humidity/65 deg. F. I know both are too high, so I have been considering how to do more of the processing and drying in a cooler, dryer environment, and with summer coming that 65 might go to 75ish.
I had a wonderful brainstorm and I am excited to try this new process. I have an under counter ice make/refrigerator that was cleaned thoroughly and dedicated to making clean ice with no food taste for attempting to produce ice wax from day 1. In the week preceding wash day, we collect 5-6 large turkey bags of ice.
Ziploc-style bags are made of stinky plastic and are permeable to odor/flavor intrusion. IMO avoid them altogether. Use non-permeable turkey (oven) bags. I've seen too many Ziplocs on Instagram.
It was realized that the humidity in the ice maker refrigerator is 40% and the temp is 39 deg. F. The washing machine sits directly beside it. The new plan is to wash (cold with ice), scrape (still cold), put each grade as it is collected directly in refrigerator to dry on screen/paper towel (cold & dry). After the patty dries and chills a couple hours with several paper towel changes, grate it with the zester from the freezer, and put the expected dabbable grades (70 only so far) back in the refrigerator on the empty shelf to dry. I did some research on dehumidifiers and found that of the 3 types, the desiccant type work best at cold temperatures, so I will put a new Eva Dry 500 renewable in the refrigerator to wick out the added humidity of the hash.
I am not yet convinced that freezing before zesting traps water in. I have a much better time zesting frozen vs. chilled-only patties. Oil or wax and water don't mix. Aren't we dealing with essential oil inside wax trichome protective shells? IWE would not work if the water dissolved or got into the extract?
I'll let you know how it works.
rastakolnikov
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As i understand it, Matt's argument is that grating the frozen patties breaks open the wax trichome shells. This allows the possibility of the essential oils forming an emulsion with the melting water and trapping it into your hash.
At least i think that's what he said, i haven't watched the video in a while.