I was just told coco is treated as hydro?

Olive Drab Green

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Is this true in terms of your pH being on the hydroponic level and watering more often, and where substrate contributes to yield, is coco relatively similar in yield to pure hydro?
 

pinner420

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I think they call a hempy bucket passive hydro. My favorite is the autopots that are gravity fed ebb adn flow...
 

Chunky Stool

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Yes,but full hydro is probably much easier.I personally dont get the facination with coco,I think its just a pain in the ass to tell you the truth.
Crap. I was just getting into coco. One factor is definitely price. It is very inexpensive when bought in compressed blocks. I've had good luck with promix, which is also relatively inert.
 

Michael Huntherz

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Crap. I was just getting into coco. One factor is definitely price. It is very inexpensive when bought in compressed blocks. I've had good luck with promix, which is also relatively inert.
I'm loving coco, for growing all sorts of stuff. I have some Thai chilis that are kicking ass indoors in 70/30 coco/perlite drain-to-waste. And my first Cannabis test plant is doing well too, but I'm not in love with the genetics. Next one will be excellent, I think.

They are cheap, those bricks, and easy to store when still compressed. Preparation is a bit of a bitch, but if you take the time to rinse and charge it with some cal-mag or cali-magic in the beginning it is pretty straightforward after that.

pH 5.8-6.2 - and hydro nutes seem to do the trick.

I'm using "Jack's Hydro FeED 16-4-17" - now rebranded as Oasis Hydroponic. Seems like it works great. For the cannabis I'm alternating in some Blossom Booster and other high phosphorus ferts, as well as Epsom Salts in flower.
 
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Resinhound

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Crap. I was just getting into coco. One factor is definitely price. It is very inexpensive when bought in compressed blocks. I've had good luck with promix, which is also relatively inert.
Promix is an excellent soiless mix,without the headache of feeding a calcium hungry plant with weird CEC attributes.Personally id run dwc before id run coco again,but thats just my opinion of It ofc
 

Resinhound

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Yep looks good only tip I can think of right now is just that...the tips,watch your leaf tips closely.Im seeing the start of an overfert.Id back off just a tad on the nutrients.Just a bit :bigjoint:
 

Olive Drab Green

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I see that, slight nitrogen issue, but could it just be because it's reducing the leaves to give energy to the flower or did I, for sure, use a little too much N?
 

Skunk Baxter

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I'm on my first coco grow, and I'm already sold on it. It's the best medium I've ever grown in, as far as I'm concerned. It's a whole different way of growing - sort of a hybrid between soil and hydro - but the more you tend toward treating it like hydro, the better results you seem to get. Here's a shot I took a couple of weeks ago, in Week 8 I believe. Those two colas are about 15 and 18 inches long, respectively. They've gotten even fatter since this picture was taken. One of them now has to be suspended from the ceiling, and the other one is resting on the top of a 3-foot long wooden stake. No complaints from me about coco.
 

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Olive Drab Green

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I'm on my first coco grow, and I'm already sold on it. It's the best medium I've ever grown in, as far as I'm concerned. It's a whole different way of growing - sort of a hybrid between soil and hydro - but the more you tend toward treating it like hydro, the better results you seem to get. Here's a shot I took a couple of weeks ago, in Week 8 I believe. Those two colas are about 15 and 18 inches long, respectively. They've gotten even fatter since this picture was taken. One of them now has to be suspended from the ceiling, and the other one is resting on the top of a 3-foot long wooden stake. No complaints from me about coco.
Fuckin' beautiful, Bro. Just incredible.
 

Skunk Baxter

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It's a pheno hunt, and I got lucky. Now I just need to reveg these damned things, because I didn't take cuts off of either one of them. They were both sativa dominant, and I was focusing on indica traits, but by the time I realized how much they were going to bud out, they were too far into flower for me to get good cuts. I just hope they reveg OK. They're perfect, sativa dominant in almost every way, except for indica-type buds - which are massive because they run like sativas before they start filling out.

The one immediately behind them is an indica dom, and that one's top bud is around 11 inches and 4 inches across. I did get several cuts off of her, and they're ready to go now. I'll save one as a mother, and put the rest right into flower when I chop the ones in the picture.

Coco is the shit as far as I'm concerned. If you don't know how to grow, it's very forgiving, and does more of the work for you than any other medium I've used. And if you do know how to grow, you can hit those fuckers right out of the park once you've got it all dialed in.
 

Skunk Baxter

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Oh, geez, I just scrolled back and realized you specifically asked about ph. Sorry; I missed that.

Yeah, I treat the ph totally as though it were hydro. I keep it in a range between 5.8 and 6.1, sometimes as low as 5.7 or as high as 6.2, but only very rarely and never for long. Early in the grow, I'm more casual about letting it drift toward the lower range, but in bloom I tend to keep it toward the higher end to facilitate magnesium uptake. I don't like adding calmag in bloom if I can avoid it, because I have calcium overload in my tap water already, and it doesn't play well with the super-high levels of P that I run in bloom. By letting the ph drift high in flower, the plants can take up magnesium more easily, and I don't have to add so much.

But yeah, you do want to set your ph according to the hydro scale rather than the soil scale.
 

Olive Drab Green

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But I only really asked that because I was afraid of flat out asking if coco is considered hydro. Like, I just considered what I was doing a soil grow. I just learned tonight it's been a DTW hydroponic setup.
 

Bluntsmith

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Is this true in terms of your pH being on the hydroponic level and watering more often, and where substrate contributes to yield, is coco relatively similar in yield to pure hydro?
I gotta be honest, I started out on the full hydro boat, and my results are extremely predicated on making sure nothing goes wrong, ever. As long as you have it 100% dialed in, yes, it can be fantastic. But coco is more forgiving, it requires way less water(ing), and the plants look just fantastic. I am sorry I went down the DWC path and all of that, because in scale, it's just 100% better to deploy the KISS method.
 
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