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I think my plant died...

Discussion in 'Newbie Central' started by Brokenhope420, Mar 8, 2007.


    Brokenhope420 Well-Known Member

    Well... I dont know if its dead or not, I will have pictures later...

    its now day almost day 4 since I wrote the date down that I first noticed it up and out of the soil. Went well for the first 2 days, watered lightly over the top of the soil twice a day, just flicking water off my fingers because only the top 1/3 inch was dry [bone dry, right below it is was moist though]. Ive been doing that same thing since the time I first planted it because below the top is was always moist. Well yesterday night I looked at my plant and it didnt look healthy... its been getting browner [it was slightly brown on the first 2 leafs even]... so I watered it a lot... my crappy backyard soil sucks though and the soil sticks so much, you pour some water and you can scrape the wet soil right off the dry soil... theres no gradient. Water doesnt go very far down either... so I really had to water to get the bottom wet. 8 hours ago I watered a bit more than usuall too.

    So just now I check on it and the plant is bent over. Still "moist" just bent over and looking very brown... I just stuck a toothpick in the soil and got it to stand up leafs facing the lamp and left it alone...

    the plants about 1/2" - 2/3" tall, it has its very first 2 leafs about 1/3" long each, and then has 2 other "marijuana looking" leafs above it only a few cm long. the lamp is always kept about 1" from the plant. Im using a 26 watt 1600 lumen cFL, I could use a second if I REALLy wanted to. the light is kept on 24/0. I am using back yard soil, bag seeds, no nutes, day old tap water, and very smooth tin foil in the grow box.

    mogie Well-Known Member

    Problems: using backyard soil (full of bugs and germs)
    tin foil (causes hot spots and bad reflector of light)
    light schedule should be 18/6
    ph test all liquids before adding to plant
    Temp of grow area?
    Do you use a moisture wand?

    Part 1 Contributed by: Bongaloid
    Part 2 : Bush_Grower

    First time growers frequently:
    Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
    Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
    Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
    Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
    Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
    Part 2:
    Contributed by: Bush_Grower
    1. Don't Overwater
    Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
    Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
    2. Don't Tell People
    Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
    Keep it to yourself.
    3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
    It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
    4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
    Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
    Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
    5. Don't Over-fertilize
    Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
    Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
    Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
    A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
    As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
    6. Don't Under-fertilize
    Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
    7. Don't Start with Clones
    Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
    8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
    Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
    Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
    9. Don't Harvest Too Early
    25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
    *NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.

    Common questions:
    Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
    Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!

    Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
    Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.

    Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
    I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
    If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.

    Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
    Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.

    Q. What kind of lights should I use?
    Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
    400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
    1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
    *Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.

    newb985 Well-Known Member

    I know this is an old thread but you made some great points.

    erkelsgoo420 New Member

    Sry off topic but dude ur av is awesome u wouldn't happen to know who would sale a shirt like that would ya? Again sry for the jack killer info but do seedlings really stretch fue to humidity I was under the impression it was lighting only that caused that

    doktordoris Active Member


    I didn't understand any of that.

    Tdotkushman Active Member

    Your doing everything wrong bro. Invest in the grow bible, u have no clue what ur doing

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