I think flushing is a myth heres why

if u dont flush ur a dumb ass period... 2 weeks flush heavy flush so plants sweat out nutes liike we do toxins to. slow controlled dry to evap. chloraphyll.. long cure to fully remove chloraphyll and enhance terpens for flavor... noobs donno better

Anti-flushers "Don't flush, it's a waste of time and here are articles explaining how plants feed and why flushing doesn't accomplish what people believe"

Flushers "you're a dumb ass sheep if you don't flush."

Hmmm....

Oh and I've always flushed because that's how I was taught to grow. Doesn't mean I'll ignore scientific evidence when it's laid out infront of me. I'll be skipping the flush on this harvest and testing this myself.

theexpress said:

if u dont flush ur a dumb ass period... 2 weeks flush heavy flush so plants sweat out nutes liike we do toxins to. slow controlled dry to evap. chloraphyll.. long cure to fully remove chloraphyll and enhance terpens for flavor... noobs donno better

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I like you a lot bro, but we'll have to agree to disagree here.
My position is flushing is not scientifically proven to do anything.
If somebody wants to flush I say go for it and do what feels right, but my opposition to it is it cannot work as many people think it can - that's a proven fact.

Again though, I don't think a 3-5 day pre-harvest flush will hurt anything, but it's not a magic elixir that rids plants of chemicals and excess nutes they wouldn't have absorbed/used anyway during that period.

The cure is where it's at wherein the Chlorophyll gets broken down (not evaporated - it's a pigment not a liquid) thus removing that nasty "Hay" taste/smell plus the chemical conversions that are happening as well.

"Naturally, as the metabolic processes continue during curing, the conversion of cannabergerol to tetrahydrocannabinol will continue and the potency of the pot will increase. This is because cannabergerol (CBG) is the non-psychoactive precursor for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). Of course, the exact change in THC content will necessarily be dependant upon the concentration of CBG in the fresh material at harvest. Of course any remaining precursors necessary to form additional cannabidiol (CBD) and other cannabinoids will also be consumed and converted."

I'm not hacking on anyone here, just MHO.
GWN

how does flushing not work.....

theexpress said:

how doesnt flushing not work.....

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Indeed.

water clenses us but not plants? when we fast our bodies also clense ourselves much like plants.... we sweat to cool ourselves like plants we expell toxins when sweat like plants... i like u to but explain urself a lil...

theexpress said:

how doesnt flushing not work.....

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Using a double negative is not helping us bro lol.
Just gotta give you a little shit, Im baked as hell right now so I am liable to do the same thing. But I am in the flushing camp, but I don't do the 3x the container shit unless I have to much salt builtup in my soil. I just do not feed them anything the last 1-2 weeks. Call me stupid but I really like to see the secondary/carotenoid colors of the plant come through in this stage, its purty. If it gets me less smoke so be it but it seems to smoke smoother the more faded the plant is, just my unscientific observation. To be perfectly honest what GNW posted made total sense but like I said faded out bud tastes better to me than not flushed.

theexpress said:

water clenses us but not plants? when we fast our bodies also clense ourselves much like plants.... we sweat to cool ourselves like plants we expell toxins when sweat like plants... i like u to but explain urself a lil...

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Riddle says it much better than I can.
With an open mind read through post #22 & see if you see any holes in the science that RM3 laid out.
Again, not trying to poke at anyone - but it's all there.

Senescence was the word I was looking for....
I like for my plant to go through this before I smoke it, I understand what dude was saying but at the end of the plants life it should be dieing off not trying to grow still.

thats alotta reading for my adhd ass lol

theexpress said:

thats alotta reading for my adhd ass lol

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Yeah, I know it is but I waded through it.
& I'm Adhd as well.


Ohhh look - a duck !!

natro.hydro said:

Senescence was the word I was looking for....
I like for my plant to go through this before I smoke it, I understand what dude was saying but at the end of the plants life it should be dieing off not trying to grow still.

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Interesting - I had to look it up.
Perhaps that is part of the puzzle with clone/clone/clone degradation ?

as long as my roots are in fertile soil it will eat.
Some amendments will not flush from soil in a month of sundays

I read about it in Robert Connell Clarke's book, but didnt remember the exact term I was trying to think of till I had typed all that lol. But as soon as I read about it flushing kinda started to make more sense, that is why I try to do it subtly because you can shock the plant like dude you quoted was talking about. Hence why when you do a hard flush you are supposed to pour a low dosage of nutes back in at the end of the flush or you just end up starving the plant, and as you stated before in organics flushing is just about impossible if you are doing real organics.

charface said:

as long as my roots are in fertile soil it will eat.
Some amendments will not flush from soil in a month of sundays

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chemical salt ferts will..

natro.hydro said:

I read about it in Robert Connell Clarke's book, but didnt remember the exact term I was trying to think of till I had typed all that lol. But as soon as I read about it flushing kinda started to make more sense, that is why I try to do it subtly because you can shock the plant like dude you quoted was talking about. Hence why when you do a hard flush you are supposed to pour a low dosage of nutes back in at the end of the flush or you just end up starving the plant, and as you stated before in organics flushing is just about impossible if you are doing real organics.

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That's me - Organic, just cause like I like it like that so I don't have any hands on experience with Chemical Fert's.
But I have a pretty good libary, read a lot and will listen to anyone whom know's their stuff and can provide citations.

I'm in this for the fun, not the fight.

ahhhh i see whats going on now... trust me u have to flush chem nutes.. organic nutes u cant soo much but they have carbon molecules so they break down the heavy metals and shit in salt ferts must be flushed or ull get headaches dirty burning ash and harsh smoke that burns ur throat lungs an nose that makes u wanna sneeze

theexpress said:

ahhhh i see whats going on now... trust me u have to flush chem nutes.. organic nutes u cant soo much but they have carbon molecules so they break down the heavy metals and shit in salt ferts must be flushed or ull get headaches dirty burning ash and harsh smoke that burns ur throat lungs an nose that makes u wanna sneeze

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Do me a favor - print it out, set it on yer shitter tank & pick it up when you're in the library.
I'll bet you learn some cool stuff - I did.

theexpress said:

ahhhh i see whats going on now... trust me u have to flush chem nutes.. organic nutes u cant soo much but they have carbon molecules so they break down the heavy metals and shit in salt ferts must be flushed or ull get headaches dirty burning ash and harsh smoke that burns ur throat lungs an nose that makes u wanna sneeze

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better yet, try this, light some dry fertilizer on fire, now go light some sugar on fire, see how what your saying about chem ferts is nonsense?

chuck estevez said:

better yet, try this, light some dry fertilizer on fire, now go light some sugar on fire, see how what your saying about chem ferts is nonsense?

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try this eat some sugar then eat some miracle grow...