I need some cloning advice or tips please.

Skunk#1 · May 18, 2009

well I think that last peice of advice I gave is right up your alley, The advice I gave was not a sales pitch its was what I use and thought I would pass it on, but try the jar in the window trick I am telling you it works my mom always had 4-5 jars in the window with a few plants in each and they were always getting roots. oh yeah I remember she would change the water every now and again not sure how often but she would

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 18, 2009

Skunk#1 said:
well I think that last peice of advice I gave is right up your alley, The advice I gave was not a sales pitch its was what I use and thought I would pass it on, but try the jar in the window trick I am telling you it works my mom always had 4-5 jars in the window with a few plants in each and they were always getting roots. oh yeah I remember she would change the water every now and again not sure how often but she would

Yeah now you are speakin my language, thats IS basically what i am doing, (cup. water,window) except i DID BUY rooting hormone, even though i successfully cloned a plant without it before. And i have it in a dome. that put me at 1 success out of 4 tries. Not counting this one, which has not failed yet. So its not like I've been trying this forever. Its the amount of time i was MOST curious about. I cant believe this thing is still alive after 21 days with no roots!?
I'll ask again if anyone thinks that putting airstone in the cup will help, but i figure that, that only helps when there are already roots to use the O that the stone provides?

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 18, 2009

Skunk#1 said:
think about trying something different then the powder, I have had nothing but dead clones when I tryed the powder. Try this stuff http://www.americanag.com/proddetail.php?prod=SA148 its a little bit more costly then other stuff but I bet you a nug that you will have roots 7-10 days, and also get a Fluorescent light just for you clones and a timer for 18 hour's of light. And get a tray with a plastic dome like this http://www.americanag.com/proddetail.php?prod=PO100A&cat=172 so you can keep the humidty up.
Good luck

Your advise skunk has been solid. I recognize that. Its just not for me. You have been much more of a man about it than the good Dr. It was the guy who simply said "throw money at it" that i didn't care for. If I Have to buy http://www.americanag.com/proddetail.php?prod=SA148 I will. And if it works i will have you to thank for it. But i will continue to try without such "luxuries".

Skunk#1 · May 18, 2009

a airstone could not hurt at all, putting air in the water could only be a good thing, How much light is it getting ?? I would think not direct sunlight where it would get hot but not really shaded sunlight, would be the best

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 18, 2009

It gets indirect sun from a window about 3 feet away, and flouro room light until i go to bed. We both sleep for 6 or 7 hrs then its light again. I'm starting to think I need to put myself on 12/12 and get some more sleep! lol
My airstone is busy making Tea right now for mom, but your right it probably cant hurt to put in in there. will do asap.

MickFoster · May 19, 2009

I don't know if your cutting will grow roots but if it's still ok after 3 weeks I suppose eventually it will. Here's what I do and I have 100% success - didn't cost any money since I had an extra airstone and pump laying around. Took one of my wife's tupperware containers and drilled holes in the top for the cuttings to go in. Filled it with tap water, added airstone, put in the cuttings so it is submerged about an inch, put it under flourescent light 18/6 and in a week I have roots. No rooting gel, no humidity dome, no misting, no pH'd water. Works everytime for me. I usually let them go 2 weeks until the roots are about 6-8 inches long then transplant. I do change the water every few days. Hope that helps.

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 19, 2009

MickFoster said:
I don't know if your cutting will grow roots but if it's still ok after 3 weeks I suppose eventually it will. Here's what I do and I have 100% success - didn't cost any money since I had an extra airstone and pump laying around. Took one of my wife's tupperware containers and drilled holes in the top for the cuttings to go in. Filled it with tap water, added airstone, put in the cuttings so it is submerged about an inch, put it under flourescent light 18/6 and in a week I have roots. No rooting gel, no humidity dome, no misting, no pH'd water. Works everytime for me. I usually let them go 2 weeks until the roots are about 6-8 inches long then transplant. I do change the water every few days. Hope that helps.

I have 2 questions for you. how big is the tupperware, and how big are your cuttings? a 3rd lol 2 weeks total or 2 weeks after the 1st sign of roots? Thank you very much for your help!

MickFoster · May 19, 2009

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:
I have 2 questions for you. how big is the tupperware, and how big are your cuttings? a 3rd lol 2 weeks total or 2 weeks after the 1st sign of roots? Thank you very much for your help!

I originally started with a tupperware container that was round - about 10" in diameter - was only good for a few clones - I have since made a larger one with a rubbermaid container at walmart. My cuttings vary usually around 4 or 5 inches in total length. I have even taken cuttings off plants in the 3rd week of flower with good results. 2 weeks total usually - roots appear after about a week and I let them stay there another week to get some length. Then I put them in a rockwool cube for planting.

joebaze · May 19, 2009

im having a similar dilemma..
i recently killed one of my ladies to make room in my box

my friend told me to try to clone the branches from her to maybe gain more..
some clones are in jiffy pellets n some are in a tupperware with tap water..
i noticed that the tap water ones grew roots alot faster!
but both are working...
my question is, some of the cuttings had hairs starting to grow!
all are in 12/12 mode n have been in it since cutting them..
is it ayt to transfer them to 24 or 18/6???

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 19, 2009

Well Joe, if you dont want them to flower you will HAVE to put them on 18/6. Weather or not they accept this change may depend upon how long they have been 12/12. I suppose it could cause them to hermie? You said "since I cut them". how long ago was that?

joebaze · May 19, 2009

well, some are like 2, maybe 3 weeks in..
others are less than a week..
if i stay in 12/12 will they still fill out nice??

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 19, 2009

joebaze said:
well, some are like 2, maybe 3 weeks in..
others are less than a week..
if i stay in 12/12 will they still fill out nice??

It depends upon how big they are. I dont know how many you have but....I would try to put the ones that are only a week back on 24/0/ light and vegg them longer. The ones that have been 12/12 for 3 weeks I dont think will want to go back to 24/0.
The 1 clone i managed to root and plant had like 5 nodes. Long story, but i had to kill it or flower it. So this 5 node clone went right to 12/12 and it produced about 1/4 oz dry.

joebaze · May 19, 2009

oooooo...
well they have like 2 nodes...
this is my first attempt in cloning so i dnt really know how many nodes i needed...
are these too small???

kremnon · May 19, 2009

it takes longer to clone in standing water cuz there is little oxygen, change ur water often. or try sticking ur cut in what ur gonna grow in. hopefully organic soil.

ive had great success withrootone and clonex i prefer the gels they work good.

i don't have any equipment so i just use a syrofoam cup and stick my clones in the shade outside. works all the time

joebaze · May 19, 2009

ive noticed that my cuttings in the standing water rooted wayyyy more faster than the 1 in the jiffy pellets...
i use no gels.
just cut them n stick em in!

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 20, 2009

joebaze said:
oooooo...
well they have like 2 nodes...
this is my first attempt in cloning so i dnt really know how many nodes i needed...
are these too small???

Is two nodes to small? Apparently not!! This morning I checked my cutting (which has only 2 nodes) and ta-dah roots! :hump:

Boom chicka whaa whaa. Gimmie 3 months and I'll post a picture of the fatty I roll with it!!

itsgrowinglikeaweed · May 20, 2009

MickFoster said:
I don't know if your cutting will grow roots but if it's still ok after 3 weeks I suppose eventually it will. Here's what I do and I have 100% success - didn't cost any money since I had an extra airstone and pump laying around. Took one of my wife's tupperware containers and drilled holes in the top for the cuttings to go in. Filled it with tap water, added airstone, put in the cuttings so it is submerged about an inch, put it under flourescent light 18/6 and in a week I have roots. No rooting gel, no humidity dome, no misting, no pH'd water. Works everytime for me. I usually let them go 2 weeks until the roots are about 6-8 inches long then transplant. I do change the water every few days. Hope that helps.

The best answer. I'm doing this next time all the way. Thanks +rep 4 u.
And +rep for skunk, for putting up with me and still trying to help! :peace:

Skunk#1 · May 20, 2009

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:
The best answer. I'm doing this next time all the way. Thanks +rep 4 u.
And +rep for skunk, for putting up with me and still trying to help!

Well you want to do it one way and I want to do it another way but at the end of the day we are trying to do the same thing Smoke A Joint :hump:

Thanks and good luck

joebaze · May 21, 2009

this info is great!
for now my cloning setup is giving me results so ill stick to it for a while!
my other question is
is cloning in the flowering stage okkay???
i had to hack my plant for room n decided to try n clone it!
but they were already giving hairs...

notpatient · May 22, 2009

so Im sorry that I upset you guys with my comment ,I thought it might of been helpful if you bought a cloner or made one it still cost money I really like the consistency and dependability of mine it works in less then a week most times and in summer a lil longer you can make one for 40 bucks but my bad !! in the end your still throwing money at it
POLITICAL JOKES ASIDE

I need some cloning advice or tips please.

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