I MIGHT LOSE ONE... any ideas, opinions? PICS INCLUDED

mystifiedbongs

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IMAG0214.jpgIMAG0212.jpgIMAG0213.jpgIMAG0211.jpgi think its pretty obvious the one im talking about
i had my cfl fixture fall on my seedling tray, they all were on the ground, out of 12, these are the 11 that i thought were ok... the other one was def a goner. now they all look healthy except this one
theres some pics of other ones for comparison, but i need a pro opinion

should i just toss it now? or is there still hope?
 

doboyfresh

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Not gona hurt if you let it try and survive, you'll know if it won't make it. Still has some green on it I think yo may be fine i don't know how that could affect you in the long run.
 

mystifiedbongs

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now i noticed that they all but 1 have these tiny white spots, i cant tell if there hairs or just dots.
sorry about the pics, its only my cell phoneIMAG0218.jpgIMAG0220.jpgIMAG0219.jpg
 

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mystifiedbongs

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bump, all my leaves have these dots not, its all uniform so i dont think bugs, am i having a nutrition problem? is this normal? am i looking too close? very tiny white dots EVERYWHERE. temp is around 75 in the tent. watering with 6.8 and 1/4 strength hygrozyme.
somebody please help. 1st grow here and i dont wanna lose it
here's the best pic i can get with my phone
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jawbrodt

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^Be careful, or you'll burn them, it's really easy, at this point. It's time to transplant, as well, and if you're using decent soil,...time to stop feeding for a week or three,(maybe more) depending on container size. That damaged one will likely recover, I've seen worse survive. They're pretty tough plants.


Also, I can't see the spots, but take a peek at the undersides of the leaves, looking for tiny mites. You might need a magnifying glass, unless you have excellent vision, 'cause they're really small. If you do have mites, I'd scrap them all and start over. It'd be MUCH easier than fighting an infestation, and much wiser than risking harvesting plants full of mites. I hope it's not mites, but, tiny white spots, is a good indicator that they're around.
 

shizz

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stop watering them so much. there ready to go in anther container. once they sprout you should get them in some medium. no ferts yet
 

shizz

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also if you think theres bugs put some duct tape down and watch if any bugs get stuck to it in a day or two.
 

mystifiedbongs

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no bugs, i prob shouldnt have givin them hygrozyme. you know how there's fuz on the first round leaves and some on the first serate leaves..... am i maybe seeing hairs that are slowly going away? i have 5 different strains going so i dont think its strain specific. DO ALL SEEDLINGS HAVE TINY DOTS or HAIRS? i will transplant them all into FFOF tonight, anything special i should do before transplanting?
 

jawbrodt

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Hmm....it's possible that you have some kind of mold/mildew starting. I get it sometimes, when I use those peat pellets for cloning. What kind of air do they get? If they're in a dome, closed up for most of the day, mold is a possibility. At any rate...no, spots are not the norm, for little ones.
 

iampolluted

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those yellowing spots in your pics are the start of a cal/mag deficiency...i'm not saying feed them veg nutes yet, but you'll want to give em some cal/mag.. your seedlings look 1 1/2 - 2 weeks old, and those peat pucks have nothing to sustain the plants, other than holding water well. i've ran into the same problems countless times, and i've learned to read my plants as a result.....those are early signs of a cal/mag deficiency. if it were me, and i have the same thing occurring atm so it is in a sense, i'd add the cal/mag and stop watering until the puck dries up a bit. you could also foliar feed too. MJ is a cal/mag pig in most cases....some strains aren't as bad as other but typically cal/mag is JUST as important (and in some strains more so, like OG's) than the major nutes.
 

mystifiedbongs

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what has calcium and mag, but no other nutes? im heading to the hydro store in an hour to get ffof and perlite, whats the best type of pots i should use for 8 autos and 3 reg plants. veg under 400MH and flower under 1000SHPS. anything else i should get? i have ph up and down, and a test kit. i have a bunch of nutes that i know i dont need now.
 

iampolluted

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2-3 ga. pots for the auto's...you could get by with 1 ga. but ya might end up root bounding them so go bigger and give em room. for non auto's it depends on your veg. time. could be up to a 10 ga. pot, or as little as a 1 ga....just depends. there are plenty of cal/mag only nutes. just ask and they'll get ya something. for soil i'd go with happy frog instead of OF for non auto's, it won't burn your plants, and you won't need to amend it with lime to keep the ph buffered, like many have to do with OF. then again, transplanting auto's into OF after a few weeks is actually what i am doing. i'm using leached and treated HF and transplanting into OF so i won't have to feed until after flowering and they'll have enough N to make it through the entire grow without having to add much.

a digital ph meter will be your best friend if you don't have 1 already.
 

shizz

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it is calcium mag def from over watering and having root rot. do not put them in fox farms. put them in something with fertlizer. fox farm is to strong for little plants. also the fuzz is prob mold.
 

shizz

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if you use fox farm put it in the bottom with anther layer of soil on top maybe even just peat and perlit with a few spoons of fox farm.
 
trust me lads i had a one weed plant in with 5 others and when it sprouted it had 3 leafs it was crazy any way i tried killing it litterally by putting pure nutes in strait from bottle onto the soil and it grew fine it had brown spots nd a couple burnt spots but miner stuff i was worried at the time but i got a halfers of the grade of it so keep it itll b worth it
 

shizz

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any stress will hurt your yeild.. and theres no way you can tell me it wont. cause you have no idea what your plant with brown spots would of yielded without your brown spots.... but if leaves make energy and your leaves are brown its not making energy...... when the last time you heard someone win a marathon with a brown spot of lung cancer.... i wouldnt throw the plant out.. im just saying what wrong with it.......
 

Kingrow1

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Adding ferts is wrong here i think and they just need transplanting to some good seedling soil. I doubt they got a cal mag deficiency at this point. One of the earlier pics shows either damage from the light accident or damage from mites or thrips, both move or hide so if you see movement then you know but if after an hour of watching no movement then hmmm idk, see how they grow. Why do people reach for the ferts whenever they see somthing they don't understand. I have never fertilized a seedling in my life and my seedlings can grow a lot bigger in a peat cube before any deficiency even starts to show. Peace. ;)
P.s. i also get white mold or fungi colonies that look like white strands on my peat cubes, sometimes on my soil pots, yes it starts due to moisture being present but hell i keep my peat cubes moist (not saturated) at all times so to be expected. Personally i encorage it to grow but it never grows on any of my seedlings or plants, ever. As well as this i also get a green mold or algae grow on some of my plant pot soils, neither have bothered me as i dont overwater but if i did overwater it would be a sign of it and sick plants could have root rot. Neither the white fuzz or green stuff ever hurt my plant or stopped it growing and i like the white fuzz stuff, it grows down my whole peat cube sometimes giving it hair all wispy long hair sticking out all over, i never looked into it cause it never caused me a problem as well as doing well at science at school and seeing some fungal colinies for sale to help roots and nutrient uptake working in partnership with the plant i guessed the ones i see were similar. I must stress i don't really ever over water, don't have root rot problems or found that anything growing on the soil hurt my plants. I do get the occasional mushroom from the odd batch of soil once or twice a year, anyone got any clues bout that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 

jack ripa

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That's NOT cal mag def. OMG, every problem has turned into a cal mag def these days.

The white dots are small crystals. Let em be.

Put them into a mix of half seedling soil, half FFOF in a dixie cup and transplant them into a full pot and straight FFOF when the bottom leaves start to yellow and curl.

Your injured plant will be fine.
 
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