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VictorVIcious
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How often you water is medium dependent. Go back and read the first few pages of the thread. Or provide more information. VV
If you don't see crystles within 30 minutes kill em. Widow varieties are usually long flowering periods, around 8 weeks of flowering, you should see some crystals. VVs3pugjust wondering if any can help im growing widow and im flowering now i got my white hairs on mybuds but i wanna now is when dose it get it crystles cose mine aint
whysohigh
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i dont use any type of growing medium the roots are basically in the air, the pump is on for one minute and off for five so the roots can get oxygen. its going to be a little different in every set up depending on what sort of medium your using.
whysohigh
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the hairs come before the trichomes do be patient bro
wannabee
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I was reading the beginning of this thread and Al B. Fuct said that you can get an hps security light at a hardware store and I've seen them. I was just wondering if you can plug this in to a regular socket, or if you have to do some wiring to convert it. Does anyone know of a thread about how to convert the light, if this is the case and what amount of watts are these lights. Do they run hot? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
VictorVIcious
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I think the FAQ has a post about converting a security light. Yes, hid stands for high intensity discharge. The watts will be determined by the ballast in the fixture, it will be listed on the box. It will plug into a regular socket in you wire it to a cord, these lights are not likely to have one, they would expect them to be 'hard wired' not plugged in. VVI was reading the beginning of this thread and Al B. Fuct said that you can get an hps security light at a hardware store and I've seen them. I was just wondering if you can plug this in to a regular socket, or if you have to do some wiring to convert it. Does anyone know of a thread about how to convert the light, if this is the case and what amount of watts are these lights. Do they run hot? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
twistedentities
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WOW! THAT WAS ALOT OF READING!...LOL....I JUST LEARNED A CRAPLOAD! GR8 EFFIN THREAD!...I JUST STARTED A HYDRO GROW AFTER A VERY REWARDING SOIL GROW...IM USING WATERFARMS, 400HPS/MH, SENSI A+B PROGRAM,SENSIZYME, AND FOR FLOWER THE ADDITION OF GRAVITY DUE TO THE INCREDIBLE RESULTS IN MY PREVIOUS GROW...GROWING SOME STINKY WIDOW,CHEMO CINDY, WIDOW GRAPE, AND GIGABUD ALONG WITH SOME AUTO AKS TO FILL IN THE GAP WHILE THEY VEG....ANYWAY THATS MY SETUP AND WANNA SAY IM GLAD TO BE HERE! I'VE FOLLOWED SOME OF YOUR GROWS FOR A WHILE AND HAVE PICKED UP ALOT OF USEFUL INFO SO THANKS! I HOPE I CAN RETURN THE FAVOR......PUFF PUFF>>>>>>
wannabee
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thanks VV, I was just curious because I wanted to buy something locally instead of having it sent ups or other delivery. however, if these have to be wired it seems better for my purposes to buy a regular grow light. I just wish there were more hydro stores in my area.
VictorVIcious
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I understand that, I have always said I believe in doing business with the local folks were possible. VV
ph help please.. does any one know why the ph keeps dropping in my system.. i can adjust it to 6.3 and 5 hours later its back down to 5.. i grow in buckets with the juice running 24 hrs, i use gh product, and hydroton.. im stumped .. thanks for any help and rplys. and how long can i keep putting in ph up with it getting to stong in the resovour
bennyandthejets
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So, like so many post on here, I am a first timer killing my children. As you can see from the pics I have a decent set up, 3x1000wt hps and a 7'x3' terraponic air table. I am not sure exactly how old my clones are having got them from a "friend" but i would wager an uneducated guess @ 3-4 wks. I received them 2 weeks ago, they arrived in rock wool started cubes and were approx. 3"-4" tall. because I was waiting on some equip. I transplntd them into airated solo cups containing a 5prt. terraponic grow med./ 1prt. top soil mix there they sat for a wk. during that week they were watered lightly every other day w/ tap wtr. by the end of the week they were begining to slighty lighten in color. Wk. 2- I transplntd them into 2 gal smart pots filling the bottom with approx. 3'' of strait terraponic and topped off with the 5:1 top soil mix. When removed from the cups most had robust white root growth and seemed healthy aside from mild dicoloration which I was told to be norm. from trnsplnt. stress.
lights- I started in on a 18on 6off veg cycle for the whole week. The first batch of nutes. I mixed, I'm using supernatural grow terra for it's auto Ph balence, half of the recomended mix so as not to burn/shock them. Here's were I think I fucked up, because I didn't have a thermometer I went with the "back of the hand test" that was recomended by a grow tip post. My hand felt comfortable @ around 4-5 in. frm the bottm of the reflctor to top of the plant. Operating under the advice that the light should be as close as poss. w/ out burning new growth. I have a 6" vortex fan pulling air frm. outside where the temp is around 40-55 degrees and 2 room fans for air cirrculation. the next day leaves had turned way yellow and even a little brwn.
It has now been a week and I have moved the lights further and further up, they are now @18" frm. new grwth. and still the temp, I grabed a thermtr, is still @ 90 so I don't know what to do as they grow higher, I'll run out of rm. qukly! is this normal? my room temp, daytime, is @ 80.
FOOD- Although I'm pretty sure they didn't get nute. burn, being a newbie I flushed them just to be sure and the result was water logging. I stopped the feed timer and gave them a light top feed with a milder mix in a spray bottle. this was last night and these pics were taken tonight, they are getting WORSE!! After spending 3grand on this set up and having my supposed back pu of expirienced friends bail/flake out on me I'm kinda feeling a little burned myself. I am committed to seeing these beautyfull plants survive and having a long future of gardening for myself! PLEASE HELP A BROTHER OUT O' THIS PICKLE!!
tHANKS GUYS!
lights- I started in on a 18on 6off veg cycle for the whole week. The first batch of nutes. I mixed, I'm using supernatural grow terra for it's auto Ph balence, half of the recomended mix so as not to burn/shock them. Here's were I think I fucked up, because I didn't have a thermometer I went with the "back of the hand test" that was recomended by a grow tip post. My hand felt comfortable @ around 4-5 in. frm the bottm of the reflctor to top of the plant. Operating under the advice that the light should be as close as poss. w/ out burning new growth. I have a 6" vortex fan pulling air frm. outside where the temp is around 40-55 degrees and 2 room fans for air cirrculation. the next day leaves had turned way yellow and even a little brwn.
It has now been a week and I have moved the lights further and further up, they are now @18" frm. new grwth. and still the temp, I grabed a thermtr, is still @ 90 so I don't know what to do as they grow higher, I'll run out of rm. qukly! is this normal? my room temp, daytime, is @ 80.
FOOD- Although I'm pretty sure they didn't get nute. burn, being a newbie I flushed them just to be sure and the result was water logging. I stopped the feed timer and gave them a light top feed with a milder mix in a spray bottle. this was last night and these pics were taken tonight, they are getting WORSE!! After spending 3grand on this set up and having my supposed back pu of expirienced friends bail/flake out on me I'm kinda feeling a little burned myself. I am committed to seeing these beautyfull plants survive and having a long future of gardening for myself! PLEASE HELP A BROTHER OUT O' THIS PICKLE!!
tHANKS GUYS!
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twistedentities
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ok, the first thing you wanna do is keep the lights at least 2 ft away from them if n0t further...the clones dont need that kind of light intensity while they are rooting and adjusting...33 or so inches from the light is good...you want to encourage them to grow towards the light...as for your temps 3 1000 wters is alot to control...the easiest fix for you would be an a/c unit...thats alot of heat off the bulbs to pull with a 6 inch fan...you need to pull the heat outta the roomor balance it out with cooler air...heat is usually one of the biggest pains in the ass for a new grow...read the fact section and grow room design and set up...if you need any help just pm me or stop by my current thread, i'll be happy to help
whysohigh
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twistedidenties is right, hps are great for flowering you should look at some floros for clones. also it looks to me like the discoloring is from not enough nutes.
Chumlie
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potroast, somepeople presoak their rw cubes in a hydroponic root stimulater. Now do you think that regular root stimulater from the garden center would work?
Here is another question, would you soak the rw cubes in (A) quater nutrient strength (B) root stimulater (C) h202 (D) A and B (E) B and C (F) All of the above
Here is another question, would you soak the rw cubes in (A) quater nutrient strength (B) root stimulater (C) h202 (D) A and B (E) B and C (F) All of the above
twistedentities
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ive always used superthrive in the water the cubes are soaked in...just a few drops in a 1/2 gal container and it seems to work well...
VictorVIcious
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... your air handling system set up right.
The CO2 your plants need exists in the air we breath, not in sufficient quantity to sustain co2 eating monsters, you need 'fresh air' for them. You can't put air into a room without taking air out of a room, you are missing the exhaust.
You are air cooling the light improperly. That needs to be a separate system, air blown thru the lights to the outside, not into the room. I cool 2 1000watt light with a In-line Duct booster I bought at Menards for less than $30.00. As your 'hand test' shows, it doesn't take much too cool the lights, it does need to be seperate. The idea is too control the air in the room by removing the lights from the equation, air in thru and out.
When you get this set up this way, you may need an intake, depending on how 'tight' your area is, it can be passive if smell is not a problem for you.
The third part is the oscillating fans and you have those. I use the wall mounted ones, that keeps them out of the way, they do seem to last longer, one of them I have is close to 2 years old.
I use a Stationary fan on the floor in my area as well, CO2 is heavier than air, so I try to keep it moving, may not be necessary.
If the temperature problem gets taken care of, and I am sure you will take care of that, then we can address these other issues, like relative humidity. I am confident, from the center picture, that you can do this. VV
That is a shame, lets see if we can help, ok?
Well... that could be the problem, your air cooled lights are cool and the room is hot.....hmmmm. I bet it is because you are blowing the hot air from the lights into the room with no exhaust. There are three parts to an effective air handling system, and you are missing two of the three parts, let me explain.
The CO2 your plants need exists in the air we breath, not in sufficient quantity to sustain co2 eating monsters, you need 'fresh air' for them. You can't put air into a room without taking air out of a room, you are missing the exhaust.
You are air cooling the light improperly. That needs to be a separate system, air blown thru the lights to the outside, not into the room. I cool 2 1000watt light with a In-line Duct booster I bought at Menards for less than $30.00. As your 'hand test' shows, it doesn't take much too cool the lights, it does need to be seperate. The idea is too control the air in the room by removing the lights from the equation, air in thru and out.
When you get this set up this way, you may need an intake, depending on how 'tight' your area is, it can be passive if smell is not a problem for you.
The third part is the oscillating fans and you have those. I use the wall mounted ones, that keeps them out of the way, they do seem to last longer, one of them I have is close to 2 years old.
I use a Stationary fan on the floor in my area as well, CO2 is heavier than air, so I try to keep it moving, may not be necessary.
The first question experienced growers ask when someone says they are having a problem is, "What is the temperature in your room?" You are better off without the friends that did not point this out.
If the temperature problem gets taken care of, and I am sure you will take care of that, then we can address these other issues, like relative humidity. I am confident, from the center picture, that you can do this. VV
whysohigh
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depends on the strain kinda, and how big you want them to get. 12" tall is good height to start your 12/12.