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Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style
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peace and blessingsI am running a 600 Watt HPS light. I was mistaken I dont really know if it technically is DWC or bubbleponics to be honest. The water sits about an inch underneath the netpots and I have 2 airstones in there. I didnt think that was enough water so I added a pump with individual lines to each net pots. Should I still lose the pump?> What do you think. I already lost about 3 or 4 that are definitely not coming back but I would really like to save as many others as I can.
I did PH adjust the rockwool before i put the seeds in
I did PH adjust the rockwool before i put the seeds in
livesoul
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Hello NewGrowth,
Hoping you got a second to maybe make a suggestion. I'm growing Sativa breed plants (Power Plant, Power Skunk, & Durbon Poison). I'm wondering if there is anything i can do to reduce the amount they are stretching when i'm flowering.
My setup is: Perpetual SOG
1000 watt HPS light
4x4 ebb and flow tray
1400ppm Organic Floranova Bloom
Bloom Booster from beginning of flower to harvest.
CO2 and temperature controller (hangs around 80 degrees)
Humidity usually around 50%
hydrotron grow medium
Clones once rooted go directly into flower after being under 24lights (perpetual SOG, two week cycles). Mothers also are always under 24hour 400watt MH.
These ladies grow to over 4 feet tall, passing my light which hangs 48 inches from the tray. Thanks. Peace and blessings.
Hoping you got a second to maybe make a suggestion. I'm growing Sativa breed plants (Power Plant, Power Skunk, & Durbon Poison). I'm wondering if there is anything i can do to reduce the amount they are stretching when i'm flowering.
My setup is: Perpetual SOG
1000 watt HPS light
4x4 ebb and flow tray
1400ppm Organic Floranova Bloom
Bloom Booster from beginning of flower to harvest.
CO2 and temperature controller (hangs around 80 degrees)
Humidity usually around 50%
hydrotron grow medium
Clones once rooted go directly into flower after being under 24lights (perpetual SOG, two week cycles). Mothers also are always under 24hour 400watt MH.
These ladies grow to over 4 feet tall, passing my light which hangs 48 inches from the tray. Thanks. Peace and blessings.
pinktakojuicer
Active Member
whats up .Ive been rackn my brain for days now trying to figer out this nute formula.Ive been up all night and I cant find it anywhere.I have GH 3part flora sys.I know your not realy familiar with these nutes but basically you have GROW(2-1-6)BLOOM(0-5-4)MICRO(5-0-1).Ive seen people post optimum N-P-K ratios of 20-5-5 and 10-7-8 I dont know wich is right or better or whatever but nomater how you look at it impossible to get those #s any way you mix it.GH recommends a 1-1-1 mix(G,B,M)and I also saw someone posted that too but that "1-1-1" mix comes out to be 7-6-11.doesnt look to me like good veg #s to me.GH has a "FLORA CALCULATOR" on their site but the close as i could come up with is 1 part GROW-3parts BLOOM to 5parts MICRO=an estimated 16-5-13 or 2parts BLOOM to 3parts MICRO(cut out the GROW)=an est 17-5-12.(the reason I say estimate is when u ad these things the #s get pretty high and loose .1 to maybe 2 dumbin the #s down) Both numbers are almost the same, toltal diff mix and still not 20-5-5 or 10-7-8.Is the mix close enuff(17-5-12)?
does it really make a noticable diff. or am I just being too anal?
(to tell you the truth id prob just buy a diff nute setup but when I bought my aeroflow 36 I bought nutes for it(the guy at the store recomended it)and I didnt know it came with some so now Ive got over a gal of each and this sh!t aint cheap)
does it really make a noticable diff. or am I just being too anal?
(to tell you the truth id prob just buy a diff nute setup but when I bought my aeroflow 36 I bought nutes for it(the guy at the store recomended it)and I didnt know it came with some so now Ive got over a gal of each and this sh!t aint cheap)
NewGrowth
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"Bubbleponics" is a marketing term used for DWC systems sold on the internet. The added water pump is just unnecessary.
As far as saving your plants, probably not worth it at this point just start over. Even if you were to save them their growth would be severely stunted.
They do sell products that reduce internode space. A popular one is bushmaster. I have never used them myself, but some people complain of burning when using the recommended dosage. If you try it I would start with a very dilute solution.Hello NewGrowth,
Hoping you got a second to maybe make a suggestion. I'm growing Sativa breed plants (Power Plant, Power Skunk, & Durbon Poison). I'm wondering if there is anything i can do to reduce the amount they are stretching when i'm flowering.
My setup is: Perpetual SOG
1000 watt HPS light
4x4 ebb and flow tray
1400ppm Organic Floranova Bloom
Bloom Booster from beginning of flower to harvest.
CO2 and temperature controller (hangs around 80 degrees)
Humidity usually around 50%
hydrotron grow medium
Clones once rooted go directly into flower after being under 24lights (perpetual SOG, two week cycles). Mothers also are always under 24hour 400watt MH.
These ladies grow to over 4 feet tall, passing my light which hangs 48 inches from the tray. Thanks. Peace and blessings.
Other than that you could try some LST or a screen.
I have used the GH three part mix. I just followed the manufacturer recommended feeding schedule for veg and flower but reduced it slightly and monitored nutrient usage with my PPM pen.whats up .Ive been rackn my brain for days now trying to figer out this nute formula.Ive been up all night and I cant find it anywhere.I have GH 3part flora sys.I know your not realy familiar with these nutes but basically you have GROW(2-1-6)BLOOM(0-5-4)MICRO(5-0-1).Ive seen people post optimum N-P-K ratios of 20-5-5 and 10-7-8 I dont know wich is right or better or whatever but nomater how you look at it impossible to get those #s any way you mix it.GH recommends a 1-1-1 mix(G,B,M)and I also saw someone posted that too but that "1-1-1" mix comes out to be 7-6-11.doesnt look to me like good veg #s to me.GH has a "FLORA CALCULATOR" on their site but the close as i could come up with is 1 part GROW-3parts BLOOM to 5parts MICRO=an estimated 16-5-13 or 2parts BLOOM to 3parts MICRO(cut out the GROW)=an est 17-5-12.(the reason I say estimate is when u ad these things the #s get pretty high and loose .1 to maybe 2 dumbin the #s down) Both numbers are almost the same, toltal diff mix and still not 20-5-5 or 10-7-8.Is the mix close enuff(17-5-12)?
does it really make a noticable diff. or am I just being too anal?
(to tell you the truth id prob just buy a diff nute setup but when I bought my aeroflow 36 I bought nutes for it(the guy at the store recomended it)and I didnt know it came with some so now Ive got over a gal of each and this sh!t aint cheap)
No need to overcomplicated nutrients, hydroponics should be about simplifying IMO. Each, strain, plant, set-up, ect will have its own nutrient requirements.
Once again:
Here is an easy way to figure out your plants nutrient requirements:
1.Water level drops PPM goes up: Drop your nutrient strength in relationship to the PPM rise.
2. Water level drops PPM stays the same: You may be able to fine tune you nutrient strength, if growth is vigorous leave it alone.
3. Water level drops PPM drops: Raise you nutrient strength in relationship too PPM drop.
Like I said these are only general rules always monitor your plants growth and look for tell tale signs of nutrient burn like deep green fan leaves and yellow leaf tips. Nutrient deficient plants will usually yellow from the bottom up. Keep a journal,this will help you fine tune, waste less nutrients and improve your grow next time around.
pinktakojuicer
Active Member
If I use the GH aggressive growth feed program it calls for 3parts grow 2parts micro and 1part bloom.If I follow this mix it will be pushing more K than N,correct me if Im wrong but when your in veg you should be pushing more N and less P-K and the other way around when flowering.I have the whole PPM thing down its just the mix between the three bottles.
Im just lookin at it like no one would use flowering nutes for vegging,why would I mix the nutes to more of a flowering nute ratio for veg growth.As I under stand it GH states they made it a three part mix becauls diff plants call for diff nute needs and you need to modify the mix ratios for your own needs.The feed programs sate "Theses programs are starting piontsfor developing your own program."
Im just lookin at it like no one would use flowering nutes for vegging,why would I mix the nutes to more of a flowering nute ratio for veg growth.As I under stand it GH states they made it a three part mix becauls diff plants call for diff nute needs and you need to modify the mix ratios for your own needs.The feed programs sate "Theses programs are starting piontsfor developing your own program."
racer3456
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That's why i like 1 or 2 part series. Go with Ionic, GH Flora Nova, or Dutch Masters. Anything else your wasting time or money.
orzz
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What do you think about Botanicare CNS?
NewGrowth
Well-Known Member
They are three part because certain chemicals fall out of solution when mixed in high concentrations.
The "aggressive growth" formula is just a guideline. Micro should contain mostly nitrogen. I don't think GH is calling for more P-K during vegetative growth.
Once again the mix ratios are just a guideline but don't get hung up on them.
Chumlie
Well-Known Member
do you know anything about bluelab truncheon?
what about using a regular gardencenter seed starter solution for soaking RW cubes in?
Im about put the cubes in my system and since I've soaked them in some starter solution I was going to use just plain water for a week then switch to 1/4 strength of GH nutes.
How accurate do think cabbage pH testers are? (I know its not as great as a meter, but my don't work)
what about using a regular gardencenter seed starter solution for soaking RW cubes in?
Im about put the cubes in my system and since I've soaked them in some starter solution I was going to use just plain water for a week then switch to 1/4 strength of GH nutes.
How accurate do think cabbage pH testers are? (I know its not as great as a meter, but my don't work)
flipsidesw
New Member
Sup Newgrowth!!
How's is been man? Its been pretty crazy around my way. Ive been dealing with the man. They tried to catch me slippin but i was smart enough to get out while i could. gonna be a while before i get some more ladies. Some time this year i think my state might adopt the med. mj act. Im look forward to that. Who know how long thats gonna take.
The reason i stopped by is im getting this new job and everything is going great. But they want me to take a piss test. I only have about 7 days to prepare. Any tried and true methods for passing a drug test? Any help would be greatly apprectiated.
I plan to do alot of cardio workouts and sauna time. Maybe some niacin. My buddy told me that i should drink a gallon of distilled water every day until the test. Anythoughts? He said it would help strip my body clean. kiss-assHelp!!!
How's is been man? Its been pretty crazy around my way. Ive been dealing with the man. They tried to catch me slippin but i was smart enough to get out while i could. gonna be a while before i get some more ladies. Some time this year i think my state might adopt the med. mj act. Im look forward to that. Who know how long thats gonna take.
The reason i stopped by is im getting this new job and everything is going great. But they want me to take a piss test. I only have about 7 days to prepare. Any tried and true methods for passing a drug test? Any help would be greatly apprectiated.
I plan to do alot of cardio workouts and sauna time. Maybe some niacin. My buddy told me that i should drink a gallon of distilled water every day until the test. Anythoughts? He said it would help strip my body clean. kiss-assHelp!!!
Chumlie
Well-Known Member
little heavy like me flipsidesw go to GNC and look for white bottles with a red top and a purple top. I can't rember the name of them something like formula 49. They're in a lock glass container in the store cost 50 or 60 bucks but worth it. See acording to what I've been told you can't get it out of your system completely, this just gives a 2 hour window. I used it to get my liscence back a year ago. You have to follow direction completely
Hey don't get the purple one are you have it comeing out of both ends, and maybe pee out all you can for the first 2 hours then maybe you want have to pee so bad at the show.
Hey don't get the purple one are you have it comeing out of both ends, and maybe pee out all you can for the first 2 hours then maybe you want have to pee so bad at the show.
NewGrowth
Well-Known Member
Bluelab truncheon is hands down the best ppm meter you can buy. It never needs to be calibrated, is completely waterproof, and I have dropped mine many, many times. Still works like a charm.
I'm not sure what you mean by regular garden center solution. Rockwool needs to be Ph adjusted that is the purpose of the soak. I've been using rapid rooters lately.
Sounds good, just make sure you soak was Ph adjusted.
Just as accurate as test strips or indicator solution.
That is lame bro, good to hear from you. The way to pass 100% of the time and the way I use to pass a test is simple.
I buy the fake pee, re-hydrate it, strap it to my thigh act as if I did not just smoke a bowl in my car
The detox drinks are a shot in the dark lots of water works just as well.
The test looks for THC metabolites which are stored in "fat" cells. It may be good to do heavy exercise a week or so before the test but if your test is soon exercise could just release more metabolite into your system.
If you must use your own urine your motto should be dilute, dilute, dilute. Drink shitloads of water and if they ask for another sample later because its too dilute GOOD! You just bought yourself another few days of detox.
Good luck man, don't be a stranger.
Chumlie
Well-Known Member
What up man, just wondering what nutes you use and how they rate with trucheon readings.
I'm using GH nutes, and so I called them up the other day and asked about me using the trucheon with their nutes. They said that I should go by the EC reading then multiply my reading by 640 to get the ppm of my solution cause the ppms on the trucheon are higher than theirs.
But correct me if I'm wrong it seems to me when I do that their number is higher.
What is your EC/ppm reading on your regular house water mine is .4 EC
To change the subject I'm using ebbnFlow and I know everyone on here ask about the watering times. Right now I have set up for five times a day every four hours I think thats how Al B. fuct had his. I may have to back the time down a little cause I thing your so pose to just reach the RW then drain.
Thanks Fella
I'm using GH nutes, and so I called them up the other day and asked about me using the trucheon with their nutes. They said that I should go by the EC reading then multiply my reading by 640 to get the ppm of my solution cause the ppms on the trucheon are higher than theirs.
But correct me if I'm wrong it seems to me when I do that their number is higher.
What is your EC/ppm reading on your regular house water mine is .4 EC
To change the subject I'm using ebbnFlow and I know everyone on here ask about the watering times. Right now I have set up for five times a day every four hours I think thats how Al B. fuct had his. I may have to back the time down a little cause I thing your so pose to just reach the RW then drain.
Thanks Fella
livesoul
Well-Known Member
If you must use your own urine your motto should be dilute, dilute, dilute. Drink shitloads of water and if they ask for another sample later because its too dilute GOOD! You just bought yourself another few days of detox.
Good luck man, don't be a stranger.
Just a word of caution. I was on probation a couple years back and had to get tested every so often. I was explained that an overly diluted sample would result in a fail. Not sure if that would stand up in court but just figured it was worth mentioning.
NewGrowth
Well-Known Member
Maybe in the probation system, for employment purposes they will usually just call and ask for a new sample.
hendry
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My hydro grow is going very slow. Its my first time with dro and at 5 weeks my tallest of 6 plants is only 4 inches. I have had some problems with ph and recently a little nute burn but even with those factors it still seems really slow to me. Do have any idea what would cause such slow growth and what i could do to fix it?
orzz
Well-Known Member
Are the plants clones or from seeds?
Also would help to give some more info
- growing medium
- light type
- wattage
- watering schedule
- ppm, pH
- pictures
- etc
hendry
Well-Known Member
Somebody borrowed my camera so sorry no pics. They are all from some bagseed. Currently the ph is about 5.8 water temp 70 Room temp 81. The medium is some coco fiber surrounded by river rock in net pots. Its an 18 gallon storage container with 3 airstones. Two 6" stones set up on the outer part and one round disc stone in the middle. I change the water every 2 weeks. I have 3 50 watt hps lights and 4 cfls all 5500k 2 are 14w and 2 are 27w. Its all setup in a cabinet which is roughly 3 sq ft. I dont know the ppm but currently i've backed off from using any nutes due to some recent nute burn. I just changed the water yesterday so i figure there are enough micronutes in the tap water for a couple of days.
orzz
Well-Known Member
Nice set up!
It may the water u r using. Is it tap or RO?
U may have to high a solution, ppm.