Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style

wouldn't that equal 1,00 ppm with the waters ppm being subtracted.

can i put my seeds right into the hydroton clay i am going to be growing in a 30 gal tote with sprayers or should i use rockwool

Secret Grower said:

wouldn't that equal 1,00 ppm with the waters ppm being subtracted.

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Multiply ec by 500 so 2.6 x 500= 1300 this is a standard measurement using the electrical conductivity of salt (NaCl). Nutrients salts are a bit more conductive so I used another conversion chart and your ppm is somewhere between 1300-1800. Way to high for those small plants, back it down to 500 ppm and monitor drop to determine the correct nutrient concentration.

pipefitter248 said:

can i put my seeds right into the hydroton clay i am going to be growing in a 30 gal tote with sprayers or should i use rockwool

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You need a starting media if you don't want to bother with rockwool rapid-rooter plugs are a good alternative.

Hey New Growth!! Long time no see. Well, I'm happy to say that things are coming right along. Plants have been under 12/12 for about 23 days now and...well...I guess I'm dreaming of that blessed day, around Dec. 24, when the harvest grows nigh.

So...a couple of questions. I'm using Pure Blend Pro Bloom and Liquid Karma. Are you a believer in flushing plants at the end. In my case, not so much for the taste, as for the leaching of sugars, etc?

Also, have you heard of Sweet by Botanicare? If so, any thoughts? I just heard about it tonight and find it intriguing.

Thnaks!

mayan said:

Hey New Growth!! Long time no see. Well, I'm happy to say that things are coming right along. Plants have been under 12/12 for about 23 days now and...well...I guess I'm dreaming of that blessed day, around Dec. 24, when the harvest grows nigh.

So...a couple of questions. I'm using Pure Blend Pro Bloom and Liquid Karma. Are you a believer in flushing plants at the end. In my case, not so much for the taste, as for the leaching of sugars, etc?

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I advocate flushing your plants on your first recorded run with that strain set-up ect. After you have optimized your ppm levels however it becomes unecessary as plants are only recieving what they need in terms of nutrients meaning no excess nutrient salt are being held by the plant to effect taste.

It is more of a commercial thing to not flush because you are trying to maximize yields and are not as concerned about taste. I think some un-flushed buds taste better than flushed buds sometimes. It really has to do with he skill of the grower I think.

Also, have you heard of Sweet by Botanicare? If so, any thoughts? I just heard about it tonight and find it intriguing.

Thnaks!

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I think organic additives provide for better tasting bud and I would NOT recommend flushing good organic buds. The availibility of increased micronutrients and complex organic compounds allow the buds to create more essential oils (terpenes) creating a more exotic taste, smell, and high.

The trade off is that organics and hydro don't mix well but you can not match the vigor you get with hydroponics. It's really all a trade off . .. good to hear from you mayan.

hallo
im using an aeroflo 20 and chemical ferts from GH.im changing my solution weekly.should i use the water filter or its recomended only for organic ferts???
tnx

mightyboogie said:

hallo
im using an aeroflo 20 and chemical ferts from GH.im changing my solution weekly.should i use the water filter or its recomended only for organic ferts???
tnx

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You should have some sort of filter(usually a foam insert) over the pump intake to prevent sediment or debris from entering the pump and damaging it. For an aeroponic system it is even more important as debris can quickly clog your misters.

this foam over the pump i have, but i also have a filter that you should put in the water tank with some white magic powder(some micro organism that sould kill the algae ang bacteria in the water) and some stars... from general hydroponics...is this necesary?

mightyboogie said:

this foam over the pump i have, but i also have a filter that you should put in the water tank with some white magic powder(some micro organism that sould kill the algae ang bacteria in the water) and some stars... from general hydroponics...is this necesary?

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Not sure what they are giving you there I assume they sent it as a kit. The only thing needed to keep your reservoir sterile is H202 35% @ 1.7mL/L.
If there is an additional pre-filter I would use it to prevent sediment from blocking the misters.

tnx a lot!you make growing lot easier
cheers

mightyboogie said:

tnx a lot!you make growing lot easier
cheers

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Hydro is simple it just requires a basic knowledge of how the systems work and plant physiology and you will have high consistent yields in a relatively fast period of time.

Here is a basic lesson:

Important plant organs:

Roots
Need-Oxygen, Correct environment pH and temperature, Moisture, Nutrients, stabilizing medium, pathogen free environment

Leaves
Need- Light, Co2, temperature control, proper humidity, pathogen prevention

Buds
Need-Light, Co2, temperature control, lower humidity, pathogen prevention

A properly constructed grow room and hydro system will provide each of these needs at the perfect levels. This means you can achieve high yields in smaller spaces, hence the benefit of hydro with a SOG, SCROG grow is enormous.

Okay, so yesterday I was outta town, the plants im growing im growing at a friends house for personal reasons. He decided to get a new tray for our plants to sit in. He's not the chemist in the op so when I get back the the house I check out the ph, tds etc etc. Everything checks out fine. 12 hours later I go back and check the plants and they are drooped over like they are getting no water. The first thing that I noticed is that most of the silicone that was used to seal the drain plugs in now is the nute res for he did not allow the proper dry time. Im not sure if my water pump became temporarly plugged from this, but usually if i switch it on and off it ends up shooting water out again. <--- Im not sure if my partener did this before I arrived, so I have no previous knowledge if this is from underwatering. So my plants are now getting water so in a few hours I will most likely know there fate.

My question is are my plants just lacking water or is the silicone having somekind of intense effect on them. Im of course still changing out the water, should I just flush them out with some distilled before watering with a fresh res, this is if they survive? lol

Any good news on the silicone disolve in the water effecting them would be great about now, Im really hoping the silicone didnt have some type of chemical reaction with the plants roots? Maybe I'm just over reacting lol..

Plants of looked super great before this, 1 fem and 2 unknown ww at 18" after 1 month of veg. and I took my first chance at the diy walmart easy cloner, so far so good for my first grow and clone.

Thanks in advance for your previous help and any input you can appropriate me with on this situation.

hamburger said:

Okay, so yesterday I was outta town, the plants im growing im growing at a friends house for personal reasons. He decided to get a new tray for our plants to sit in. He's not the chemist in the op so when I get back the the house I check out the ph, tds etc etc. Everything checks out fine. 12 hours later I go back and check the plants and they are drooped over like they are getting no water. The first thing that I noticed is that most of the silicone that was used to seal the drain plugs in now is the nute res for he did not allow the proper dry time. Im not sure if my water pump became temporarly plugged from this, but usually if i switch it on and off it ends up shooting water out again. <--- Im not sure if my partener did this before I arrived, so I have no previous knowledge if this is from underwatering. So my plants are now getting water so in a few hours I will most likely know there fate.

My question is are my plants just lacking water or is the silicone having somekind of intense effect on them. Im of course still changing out the water, should I just flush them out with some distilled before watering with a fresh res, this is if they survive? lol

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Yeah check the pump impeller for air-bubbles this can cause the pump to stop working, just upen it up clean it out an run it. i doubt its the silicone unless some came of and gunked up the pump.

Any good news on the silicone disolve in the water effecting them would be great about now, Im really hoping the silicone didnt have some type of chemical reaction with the plants roots? Maybe I'm just over reacting lol..

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Yeah silicone is pretty inert I doubt it hurt your plants

Plants of looked super great before this, 1 fem and 2 unknown ww at 18" after 1 month of veg. and I took my first chance at the diy walmart easy cloner, so far so good for my first grow and clone.

Thanks in advance for your previous help and any input you can appropriate me with on this situation.

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Yeah just check the pump and see if there is air in the line or impeller, check you filters too.. Good luck

Hey I have a question for you if you dont mind....I just got a general hydroponics 8 bucket setup from a friend.I have all tubes hooked up but have not filled it up yet.I just dont understand how gravity makes the drip system work.

cocojimbo4925 said:

Hey I have a question for you if you dont mind....I just got a general hydroponics 8 bucket setup from a friend.I have all tubes hooked up but have not filled it up yet.I just dont understand how gravity makes the drip system work.

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Your res needs to sit lower than the buckets in the 'dutch' bucket system. This can be accomplished by placing the buckets on bricks or milk crates. Bricks are good if you are growing larger plants. A bucket system is also made to grow fewer but larger plants.

The pump runs the drip emiters at the tops of the buckets and the nutrient solution runs out the bottom of the buckets through tubes back to the res.

1. Is their anything i can get to help keep my temps down in my res.?Besides a fan.

2 What's a good temp. for my plants to be in ? I got a therm lol. so i thought i'd have it at a good temp.

3. When should i move the AG lights up? When they just grow up to the light ? lol.

I have my grow in my sig. It's my first grow.

I have been growing in coco in an ebb-flow system. I have a 50gal reservoir that fills 2 trays a 2'x2' for veg and a 2'x3' under a 400w HPS. I use canna coco nutrients and beneficial fungi, sweet citrus, and this ooze bloom stuff. My plants look good for the most part but my PH goes up a lot. Like from 5.8 to 6.2 overnight then 6.5 by 24hours. So I just PH down each day. My tap water starts out at ph 8 and ppm less than 100. People say too much PH down is bad. It would be nice to not have to muck with it each day if nothing else. Any suggestions or ideas?

magikal chronik said:

1. Is their anything i can get to help keep my temps down in my res.?Besides a fan.

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Hey man, yes you can make your own water chiller, just pick up 1/4" copper tubing and make a coil. Fit garden hose to either end by attaching fittings and using hose clamps. They sell all this stuff at the hardware store. Then attach one end to running cold water. The cool water flowing through the copper tubes will cool your solution. Someone in here was also looking into using a liquid computer cooling kit to drop res temps as well.

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What's a good temp. for my plants to be in ? I got a therm lol. so i thought i'd have it at a good temp.

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74 F is optimal for growth and flowering of marijuana. Anything within the range of 68-85F will grow plants but try to keep it around 74 F

3. When should i move the AG lights up? When they just grow up to the light ? lol.

I have my grow in my sig. It's my first grow.

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Yeah I would let them just grow and touch those little flouros not much heat there.

marchold said:

I have been growing in coco in an ebb-flow system. I have a 50gal reservoir that fills 2 trays a 2'x2' for veg and a 2'x3' under a 400w HPS. I use canna coco nutrients and beneficial fungi, sweet citrus, and this ooze bloom stuff. My plants look good for the most part but my PH goes up a lot. Like from 5.8 to 6.2 overnight then 6.5 by 24hours. So I just PH down each day. My tap water starts out at ph 8 and ppm less than 100. People say too much PH down is bad. It would be nice to not have to muck with it each day if nothing else. Any suggestions or ideas?

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It must be those nutes and that semi-organic set-up you have going. Sounds like yummy buds though.
But seriously it sounds like you are running a heavy salt solution and your plants roots are not using it all. How is the PPM flux in your res? Why not use a drip system with coco? Try flushing out the system with water and then adjusting your nutrient solution strength. The key is the plants use water and nutrients at the same rate, if your PPM levels do not show this adjust nutrient strength accordingly. Getting this just right will stabilize your Ph.

curious.george said:

cool thread, subscribe...

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Welcome

NewGrowth said:

Hey man, yes you can make your own water chiller, just pick up 1/4" copper tubing and make a coil. Fit garden hose to either end by attaching fittings and using hose clamps. They sell all this stuff at the hardware store. Then attach one end to running cold water. The cool water flowing through the copper tubes will cool your solution. Someone in here was also looking into using a liquid computer cooling kit to drop res temps as well.

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74 F is optimal for growth and flowering of marijuana. Anything within the range of 68-85F will grow plants but try to keep it around 74 F



Yeah I would let them just grow and touch those little flouros not much heat there.

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Thanks bro a lot !
I'm going to invest and an HPS/MH for my next grow.
These are my plants at like 2 and a half weeks.