HTG...Buyer BEWARE!!!!!

Rocky Top High

Well-Known Member
I just wanted to give a heads up to all HTG Supply customers and I know there are thousands. I have heard the complaints before and I always chimed in with my experiences with them, which for the most part have been good. However, I bought a new 600watt digital ballast about 4 months ago for another grow op I was starting. I just bought a "kit" because it was easy and cheap and I didn't have the time to go buy one in person. BIG...BIG mistake.

I discoverd a short in my electrical plug to the ballast on May 9th, which was a Friday. I was able to screw with it enough that it came on and ran. I had to fiddle with it every night through the weekend to get it to work. On Monday morning, May 11th, I called and explained the problem. They said no problem, they would send out a replacement that day and gave me a UPS shipping lable to send the hosed ballast back. On Friday May 15th I still had not recieved the replacement so I called them back.

I was told, "sorry, we are just now getting your ballast sent out and it is in the shipping going out today" (May 15th) So, I was a lil put off due to the fact I have to screw with it most nights just to get it to work, not to mention the possible fire hazard that it may be.

Today, May 21st, my UPS deliverd his packages but NOTHING from HTG. So, I picked up the phone and called them to see where in the hell my ballast was. At this point I was told that their policy had changed and that I would have to send the damaged ballast back BEFORE they would send the replacement. I was livid! I just wasted 10 days because of their poor communication and even worse customer service, not to mention the extra worry and time I spent trying to keep my grow "lighted".

They did inform me that I could buy a new one and send the other back and they would credit my card back AFTER they recieved their broken ballast. The money is NOT the issue. I don't have money to burn but I can certainly afford to "loan" them the money they need to send me a working ballast. Thats not the issue and thats what they don't understand.

HTG doesn't care one damn thing about you, as a customer. They only want your money. I was told this "policy change" was just enacted due to the people that don't return busted equipment. I understand that but they should be up front and honest about this on their website and other advertising. I should of been told this 2 weeks ago as well but as I said, they don't care about their customers.

I have spent over $5,000 USD with HTG over the last couple of years buying things from reflectors to bulbs to nutes. The first time I ever buy any of their electronic equipment I get bent over and screwed. I spoke with Tony at length about this and I told him I would burn HTG in every forum I frequent. He was apologetic but he offered nothing other than thats just the way they are now doing business. I read lots of posts on here where other growers save every penny they can to buy equipment. They don't have a spare $300 laying around to replace something that was suppose to be under warranty. If you buy a ballast from HTG supply you better have some extra money laying around or you will be without a ballast for 1-2 weeks.

Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted all HTG customers to u8nderstand they no longer give a shit about YOU as a customer.
 

sirbudmaster

Well-Known Member
I just wanted to give a heads up to all HTG Supply customers and I know there are thousands. I have heard the complaints before and I always chimed in with my experiences with them, which for the most part have been good. However, I bought a new 600watt digital ballast about 4 months ago for another grow op I was starting. I just bought a "kit" because it was easy and cheap and I didn't have the time to go buy one in person. BIG...BIG mistake.

I discoverd a short in my electrical plug to the ballast on May 9th, which was a Friday. I was able to screw with it enough that it came on and ran. I had to fiddle with it every night through the weekend to get it to work. On Monday morning, May 11th, I called and explained the problem. They said no problem, they would send out a replacement that day and gave me a UPS shipping lable to send the hosed ballast back. On Friday May 15th I still had not recieved the replacement so I called them back.

I was told, "sorry, we are just now getting your ballast sent out and it is in the shipping going out today" (May 15th) So, I was a lil put off due to the fact I have to screw with it most nights just to get it to work, not to mention the possible fire hazard that it may be.

Today, May 21st, my UPS deliverd his packages but NOTHING from HTG. So, I picked up the phone and called them to see where in the hell my ballast was. At this point I was told that their policy had changed and that I would have to send the damaged ballast back BEFORE they would send the replacement. I was livid! I just wasted 10 days because of their poor communication and even worse customer service, not to mention the extra worry and time I spent trying to keep my grow "lighted".

They did inform me that I could buy a new one and send the other back and they would credit my card back AFTER they recieved their broken ballast. The money is NOT the issue. I don't have money to burn but I can certainly afford to "loan" them the money they need to send me a working ballast. Thats not the issue and thats what they don't understand.

HTG doesn't care one damn thing about you, as a customer. They only want your money. I was told this "policy change" was just enacted due to the people that don't return busted equipment. I understand that but they should be up front and honest about this on their website and other advertising. I should of been told this 2 weeks ago as well but as I said, they don't care about their customers.

I have spent over $5,000 USD with HTG over the last couple of years buying things from reflectors to bulbs to nutes. The first time I ever buy any of their electronic equipment I get bent over and screwed. I spoke with Tony at length about this and I told him I would burn HTG in every forum I frequent. He was apologetic but he offered nothing other than thats just the way they are now doing business. I read lots of posts on here where other growers save every penny they can to buy equipment. They don't have a spare $300 laying around to replace something that was suppose to be under warranty. If you buy a ballast from HTG supply you better have some extra money laying around or you will be without a ballast for 1-2 weeks.

Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted all HTG customers to u8nderstand they no longer give a shit about YOU as a customer.
man, that sucks man really! thanks for the heads up

Peace
 

doktordoris

Active Member
I just wanted to give a heads up to all HTG Supply customers and I know there are thousands. I have heard the complaints before and I always chimed in with my experiences with them, which for the most part have been good. However, I bought a new 600watt digital ballast about 4 months ago for another grow op I was starting. I just bought a "kit" because it was easy and cheap and I didn't have the time to go buy one in person. BIG...BIG mistake.

I discoverd a short in my electrical plug to the ballast on May 9th, which was a Friday. I was able to screw with it enough that it came on and ran. I had to fiddle with it every night through the weekend to get it to work. On Monday morning, May 11th, I called and explained the problem. They said no problem, they would send out a replacement that day and gave me a UPS shipping lable to send the hosed ballast back. On Friday May 15th I still had not recieved the replacement so I called them back.

I was told, "sorry, we are just now getting your ballast sent out and it is in the shipping going out today" (May 15th) So, I was a lil put off due to the fact I have to screw with it most nights just to get it to work, not to mention the possible fire hazard that it may be.

Today, May 21st, my UPS deliverd his packages but NOTHING from HTG. So, I picked up the phone and called them to see where in the hell my ballast was. At this point I was told that their policy had changed and that I would have to send the damaged ballast back BEFORE they would send the replacement. I was livid! I just wasted 10 days because of their poor communication and even worse customer service, not to mention the extra worry and time I spent trying to keep my grow "lighted".

They did inform me that I could buy a new one and send the other back and they would credit my card back AFTER they recieved their broken ballast. The money is NOT the issue. I don't have money to burn but I can certainly afford to "loan" them the money they need to send me a working ballast. Thats not the issue and thats what they don't understand.

HTG doesn't care one damn thing about you, as a customer. They only want your money. I was told this "policy change" was just enacted due to the people that don't return busted equipment. I understand that but they should be up front and honest about this on their website and other advertising. I should of been told this 2 weeks ago as well but as I said, they don't care about their customers.

I have spent over $5,000 USD with HTG over the last couple of years buying things from reflectors to bulbs to nutes. The first time I ever buy any of their electronic equipment I get bent over and screwed. I spoke with Tony at length about this and I told him I would burn HTG in every forum I frequent. He was apologetic but he offered nothing other than thats just the way they are now doing business. I read lots of posts on here where other growers save every penny they can to buy equipment. They don't have a spare $300 laying around to replace something that was suppose to be under warranty. If you buy a ballast from HTG supply you better have some extra money laying around or you will be without a ballast for 1-2 weeks.

Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted all HTG customers to u8nderstand they no longer give a shit about YOU as a customer.



Well done!

People need to to know about companies that treat people like shit.
I really think that alot of businesess that deal with us have an unwritten rule that says, "they are only law-breakers and hippies, we can do what we like. what are they going to do?"

I liked the line where you said that you could afford to lend them the cost of a new ballast!
That is exactly what they want, I wonder if they will pay you intrest on their loan?

Tell you what I think is going to happen though, they will say "you have screwed with the ballast to try and make it work, that is what fucked it. sorry. game over"
I hope Iam proved wrong.

doris


thought so mate, I just looked at their website, and look what I found. The caps are theirs-

Warranty Policy


If a system needs repair or replaced you must first contact us for a RETURN AUTHORIZATION. Items must be repacked as they were shipped to you. MODIFYING THE LIGHTING SYSTEMS IN ANY WAY WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.


 

dankmango

Well-Known Member
call the florida store and tell the dude there about it. I went there and he explained that he started the business up north and moved down to melbourne or wherever its at. He kicks ass and takes awesome care of me and everyone else I know who deals with them. I have never had a negative experience dealing with the florida store. I have however had much longer shipping times than I should of from up north. Any problem was taken care of with a free replacement, plus some free samples of things. I have extra bulbs, timers, lots of things because I wanted them fixed and he just gae me new ones and I still have the old ones. just my 2 cents n maybe he will treat you right also.
 

proheto8008

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Last time i bought from them their service was awesome, but i have heard alot has changed since then.

-DarkHorse
 

ugzkmk

Well-Known Member
so because of one persons complaint, all the positive reviews mean nothing?

i can see where u are coming from with the rant, but to make wild claims like they dont care about their customers is assanine. shit happens, you arent the only customer, for every negative review you can find 50+ positive. if anyone gets anything from the thread it should be "be thorough".

and from the sounds of it, it was your electrical receptacle that caused the problem. ill give you the lack of communication, but your liable and id consider urself lucky they even bothered to replace it after it explained that your improperly installed outlet fucked up the ballast. now your terminology is a little vague, so if the issue was at where the the power line went in to the actual ballast, why would you fuck around it with at all and just not call and start the replacement process, they are open on saturday and you discovered the issue on friday. but like i said, the communication issue is legit, however as best as i can tell, the problem arose from your negligance.
 

aknight3

Moderator
i also just recenlty purchased a 600 watt setup from them, although ive had no problems yet, but they are shady this is true
 

doktordoris

Active Member
so because of one persons complaint, all the positive reviews mean nothing?

i can see where u are coming from with the rant, but to make wild claims like they dont care about their customers is assanine. shit happens, you arent the only customer, for every negative review you can find 50+ positive. if anyone gets anything from the thread it should be "be thorough".

and from the sounds of it, it was your electrical receptacle that caused the problem. ill give you the lack of communication, but your liable and id consider urself lucky they even bothered to replace it after it explained that your improperly installed outlet fucked up the ballast. now your terminology is a little vague, so if the issue was at where the the power line went in to the actual ballast, why would you fuck around it with at all and just not call and start the replacement process, they are open on saturday and you discovered the issue on friday. but like i said, the communication issue is legit, however as best as i can tell, the problem arose from your negligance.


you may be right chief, perhaps the OP did feck it.

but what you must remember is THEY LIED, they said it was in the post and it wasn't. THAT is the important thing to remember.

THEY LIED!

In fact I just read the OPs post again and it would appear that they lied twice, twice they told the OP that his new ballast was in the post. That is what I find unacceptable.
 

DillWeed

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I have ordered from them several times and have never had a single problem. Never had to wait more than three days for my order either. I just grew some beautiful nugs with their gear and couldn't be happier.
 

Rocky Top High

Well-Known Member
so because of one persons complaint, all the positive reviews mean nothing?

i can see where u are coming from with the rant, but to make wild claims like they dont care about their customers is assanine. shit happens, you arent the only customer, for every negative review you can find 50+ positive. if anyone gets anything from the thread it should be "be thorough".

and from the sounds of it, it was your electrical receptacle that caused the problem. ill give you the lack of communication, but your liable and id consider urself lucky they even bothered to replace it after it explained that your improperly installed outlet fucked up the ballast. now your terminology is a little vague, so if the issue was at where the the power line went in to the actual ballast, why would you fuck around it with at all and just not call and start the replacement process, they are open on saturday and you discovered the issue on friday. but like i said, the communication issue is legit, however as best as i can tell, the problem arose from your negligance.
Let me set the record straight...I have been growing for DECADES. This ain't my first rodeo. The problem was with the ballast. It blew the first 2 bulbs that I ever used with it. YES, HTG sent me new ones with no problems. Even over-nighted one bulb which I thought was good customer service and I even posted about it. I can link the thread if you are interested. I can assure you that the problem had NOTHING to do with me or my setup. I am a general contractor and I can assure you, my grow op is as solid in construction and electrically as you can find anywhere on earth. I am very anal about things like that. When I stated that I "screwed around with it" I was talking about repositioning the ballast until it fired. Nothing more...nothing less. As far as them being open on Saturday...Their store is open but they DO NOT answer the phones. You can't talk to a live person on Saturday. Besides, what the fuck has that got to do with the pack of lies they told me?

HTG is a great supply house...as long as you have no problems. It's their customer service that sucks balls. I did NOT start this thread to rip HTG as much as I did to WARN prospective customers. When I told the guy my "crops" would be ruined by the time they replaced the ballast he laughed and said "crops"? It was quite evident to me that he could care less about the position I was in due to their faulty ballast. When I told Tony about it he apologized but still would not help me with my problem.

Again, as the thread states...when dealing with HTG Supply, buyer BEWARE. No where have I told anyone to boycott HTG Supply. I just want this community to be informed, with FACTS about vendors that are NOT what they claim to be. As a communoty, we need to have each others back and if I had known about their piss poor customer service BEFORE I made the purchase at least I could of taken that into account. I spent alot of money with HTG over the last few years but they have gotten the last red cent they will ever get from me. Without good customer service companies will not be succesful. I guess HTG Supply only cares about money, not customers.

For what it's worth, I took a day and went and purchased a new 600 watt ballast. If anything goes wrong, I will have the replacement within a few hours. I paid $45.00 more for this new ballast over the one I got from HTG Supply. It is worth the extra money to know that I can actually get customer service when I really need it.
 

Mrnoprints

Active Member
Man! I jus started messin wit them. Glad to learn their ways early. Thanks. I'll definitely find somewhere else to spend my money. Customer service should be number one in any business. i can appreciate your value for customer service.
 

demonic1

Well-Known Member
While I would never expect anyone to send me a new ballast on my word that the one I bought from them was broken and I "promise" to send it back to them when I receive their new one, I would expect some sort of customer service. Maybe they can take my credit card number for a deposit or something and give me a certain amount of time to return the old one. What I found ridiculous was that they had agreed to send you a new one and did not. So there policy changed. That is there responsibility to honor there past commitments and at least inform there customers about the change in policy. Sounds like you had to phone them again after waiting that I found irresponsible on there part and a lack of caring about there customers at all. Maybe they have just grown too big now and what was once excellent customer service is now gone. While competing for new customers at one time took a few caring employees, they now hire minimum wage employees to fill those rolls, to keep there prices low. However, it is not always about the lowest prices and customer service is important if they are to compete. Maybe its time the increase there, pay for the minimum wage employees and have some that care about there jobs again and not have a rotating crew beside Tony.

Anyways, I have said this in another post. Check out these guys: http://www.illumalights.com/ . I will not say they have great customer service or anything since I personally have not bought anything from them yet. I have just been to there warehouse, they were helpful, and the equipment looked good. Anyone buy anything from them; let us know how they were. If I were to change all my equipment, I would consider them. I wish I could go all digital ballasts but not at this time.
 

Rocky Top High

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While I would never expect anyone to send me a new ballast on my word that the one I bought from them was broken and I "promise" to send it back to them when I receive their new one, I would expect some sort of customer service. Maybe they can take my credit card number for a deposit or something and give me a certain amount of time to return the old one. What I found ridiculous was that they had agreed to send you a new one and did not. So there policy changed. That is there responsibility to honor there past commitments and at least inform there customers about the change in policy. Sounds like you had to phone them again after waiting that I found irresponsible on there part and a lack of caring about there customers at all. Maybe they have just grown too big now and what was once excellent customer service is now gone. While competing for new customers at one time took a few caring employees, they now hire minimum wage employees to fill those rolls, to keep there prices low. However, it is not always about the lowest prices and customer service is important if they are to compete. Maybe its time the increase there, pay for the minimum wage employees and have some that care about there jobs again and not have a rotating crew beside Tony.

Anyways, I have said this in another post. Check out these guys: http://www.illumalights.com/ . I will not say they have great customer service or anything since I personally have not bought anything from them yet. I have just been to there warehouse, they were helpful, and the equipment looked good. Anyone buy anything from them; let us know how they were. If I were to change all my equipment, I would consider them. I wish I could go all digital ballasts but not at this time.
Outstanding post! +rep to you. I offered to give them my credit card, as a deposit and the guy I was talking to said, "Well, whats to keep you from stopping payment on the card". So help me that is an exact quote.

Again, I don't want anyone to misunderstand this post. It is a warning about HTG and any company really, that you plan to do business with. Without honest and informative threads about the companies that we all deal with, I would not of ever found a good reputable seed bank. I am just trying to give everyone a heads up about the pathetic customer service that I recieved. Use this info as you guys see fit.
 

aladdin2685

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hidhut.com, i got my digital hps light kit. it came with a huge dual 6" aircooled hood bulb for 212.00
it would have been about 40 dollars cheaper with the 6"aircooled pyrexglass hood.
shipping took 5 days to recieve it.
 

Rocky Top High

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AWESOIME guys!...this is the type of info that will help everyone when deciding on where to buy equipment online. Have any of you guys had any issues when trying to return a defective product? What about any customer service experiences that you have had? Thanks again to all who has added to this thread. It's this type of info that makes this community so valuable to me and others. I really don't think I could grow without this forum. I know how to grow some killer meds but there is so much other shit you have to deal with and the personal experiences that everyone shares only takes the guess work out of the whole process.
 

hookster

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http://www.canadianwholesalehydroponics.com/ they had the wrong mailing address for me at first but are very quick to reply to emails. I believe it atually goes straight to this guys blakberry. Needless to say it was corrected right away and shipped quickly. Prices are pretty affordable to. They have everything you need! AAA+
 
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