HPS vs LED bubblegum growoff

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
what's up everybody, I switched up my setup quite a bit and fine tuned it over the course of the past few weeks and finally got my girls in their new homes!

I have 4 bubblegum clones that were given to me 3 of them being a couple weeks old and 1 being a little less than a month

I'm growing in an aeroponics setup..... I use a table that floods down into the res.... with an inch of water so the roots are submerged with the same water level constantly and I used PVC pipe and drilled holes in it so that water squirts on the top of the roots. the water level never goes up and never goes down its always at 1 inch. a tiny 6 watt submersible pump is all I need to keep this system going!!!

(I did throw a commercial air pump and an air stone in the res for a little more O2)

I also use a thermo electric chiller that was made at home that keeps my water temp constantly at 67 degrees F for a good amount O2 to be dissolved.

My nutrient setup is the 3 part series (grow, micro, bloom) from Cutting Edge Solutions, with Cal-Mag as an additive, Big Up Powder as my bloom booster, and I also run voodoo juice in my res for some bennies :)

I have 2 of the plants under a 150 watt HPS, and the other 2 under a 240 watt BlackDog LED. I want to see the results side by side and do a comparison!

Plus that's about 400 true watts and I only have 8 square feet so it's decent coverage. I plan on scrogging my ladies anyways to maximize my light spread. I keep my temps at around 73-78 and my humidity at the moment is around 30%

I'll post updates pretty often

thermostat for the chiller



one and only



nutrient line up



easy access hole to mix up food







 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
Woot welcome back bro looking awesome i love bubblegum :) and i can't wait to get some growing again soon hows things been looks like you have been a busy man

Where did the CK go and did she finish strong.. ?
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
Woot welcome back bro looking awesome i love bubblegum :) and i can't wait to get some growing again soon hows things been looks like you have been a busy man

Where did the CK go and did she finish strong.. ?
hey dirty glad to see ya

I've been busy with just workin mostly and haven't gotten on much since I cut the CK down

got like 60 something grams dry off her lol don't know what happened
 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
hey dirty glad to see ya

I've been busy with just workin mostly and haven't gotten on much since I cut the CK down

got like 60 something grams dry off her lol don't know what happened
WHAT! no way that girl was huge oh well never mind shit happens long as the smoke is good that's all that really matters

I also enjoy seeing that you took the power cables off the floor can't wait to see the girls in flower :bigjoint:
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
WHAT! no way that girl was huge oh well never mind shit happens long as the smoke is good that's all that really matters

I also enjoy seeing that you took the power cables off the floor can't wait to see the girls in flower :bigjoint:
yeah long story short my girl dried and cured and they ended up getting a little crispy and lost a ton of weight and th buds weren't as dense as I thought... oh well lesson learned. I had high temps just to throw in more light(bad idea) and I neglected them when all that shit happened with the girl and got root rot, plus I had to move her to the freezing cold shed and broke branches and shit. a lot of stress all in flowering if you ask me lol

but I bought another black dog 240 and I'll just be doing a 480 watt LED run in a 2.6x4.25 tent. about 11 square feet hopefully I can pull over 8 zips
 

THCbreeder

Well-Known Member
yeah long story short my girl dried and cured and they ended up getting a little crispy and lost a ton of weight and th buds weren't as dense as I thought... oh well lesson learned. I had high temps just to throw in more light(bad idea) and I neglected them when all that shit happened with the girl and got root rot, plus I had to move her to the freezing cold shed and broke branches and shit. a lot of stress all in flowering if you ask me lol

but I bought another black dog 240 and I'll just be doing a 480 watt LED run in a 2.6x4.25 tent. about 11 square feet hopefully I can pull over 8 zips
My buds just got crispy and I thinks it's the winter low humidity . Fml . Anyhow set up looking good ! Bubblegum flavors soon
 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
long as lesson learned then its good we are all still learning and i think even though it sucks sometimes its good for things to go wrong that way you learn how to deal with them if it ever happens again heat is my biggest problem

I was trying to win a LED on ebay yesterday but no luck i think i am going to need to bite the bullet or move my grow area some where else

I love the flowering time of Bubblegum its a huge winner for me the yield is not the best but the flowering time is amazing i think its a stain ill never stop growing as i enjoy the smoke way to much anyway grow its a new year so let's make the best of it and grow some awesome smoke :bigjoint:

yeah long story short my girl dried and cured and they ended up getting a little crispy and lost a ton of weight and th buds weren't as dense as I thought... oh well lesson learned. I had high temps just to throw in more light(bad idea) and I neglected them when all that shit happened with the girl and got root rot, plus I had to move her to the freezing cold shed and broke branches and shit. a lot of stress all in flowering if you ask me lol

but I bought another black dog 240 and I'll just be doing a 480 watt LED run in a 2.6x4.25 tent. about 11 square feet hopefully I can pull over 8 zips
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
long as lesson learned then its good we are all still learning and i think even though it sucks sometimes its good for things to go wrong that way you learn how to deal with them if it ever happens again heat is my biggest problem

I was trying to win a LED on ebay yesterday but no luck i think i am going to need to bite the bullet or move my grow area some where else

I love the flowering time of Bubblegum its a huge winner for me the yield is not the best but the flowering time is amazing i think its a stain ill never stop growing as i enjoy the smoke way to much anyway grow its a new year so let's make the best of it and grow some awesome smoke :bigjoint:
yeah man I had vipar LEDs, Mars LEDs, you name it but I finally bit the bullet too and just spent a grand on the GrowBlu 240x3 so that will be going in this tent. did a lot of searching around between blackdog, California lightworks, spectrum king, KIndLED, etc and I chose the growblu. 500 watts at the wall!!!

http://growblu.com/apollo-240x3-full-spectrum

so dirty I think you should use LEDs :) at least give them a shotit'll fix your heat problem and after one grow it'll pay for itself. no heat issues in the winter and most importantly SUMMER. let me know if I can help you with anything on the shopping side if you decide to really make the switch I've done a lot of research to find the perfect one for me about 2 years now lol
 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
yeah man I had vipar LEDs, Mars LEDs, you name it but I finally bit the bullet too and just spent a grand on the GrowBlu 240x3 so that will be going in this tent. did a lot of searching around between blackdog, California lightworks, spectrum king, KIndLED, etc and I chose the growblu. 500 watts at the wall!!!

http://growblu.com/apollo-240x3-full-spectrum

so dirty I think you should use LEDs :) at least give them a shotit'll fix your heat problem and after one grow it'll pay for itself. no heat issues in the winter and most importantly SUMMER. let me know if I can help you with anything on the shopping side if you decide to really make the switch I've done a lot of research to find the perfect one for me about 2 years now lol
Oh that light is sexy im sold i was going to get the spectrum king but holy shit.... when i found out the shipping i all most crapped myself ill get two of them LED's $2000 next month partner is going to love that... :D i have been looking at the growblu leds on youtube there is so many its so hard to pick
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
Bought a 4.5x4.5 and gonna keep the BlackDog and GrowBlu both pulling 740 true LED watts for a 20 ft area

gonna keep the same 4 plants and scrog
 

Yodaweed

Well-Known Member
Bought a 4.5x4.5 and gonna keep the BlackDog and GrowBlu both pulling 740 true LED watts for a 20 ft area

gonna keep the same 4 plants and scrog
Did you measure that will a kill a watt meter or are you going off what the manufacturers tell you? A 150watt hps puts off more heat than light you should compare equal watts LEDvs hps and it looks like you have about 5 times more LED watts than HPS so this wouldn't be a very good comparison.
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
Did you measure that will a kill a watt meter or are you going off what the manufacturers tell you? A 150watt hps puts off more heat than light you should compare equal watts LEDvs hps and it looks like you have about 5 times more LED watts than HPS so this wouldn't be a very good comparison.
the black dog is 96x5 watt chips coming out at "480 watts" but it pulls 240 out of the wall on a kill a watt. The GrowBlu LED I just bought is 240x3 watt LEDs, but pulls 500 out of the wall
 

Yodaweed

Well-Known Member
the black dog is 96x5 watt chips coming out at "480 watts" but it pulls 240 out of the wall on a kill a watt. The GrowBlu LED I just bought is 240x3 watt LEDs, but pulls 500 out of the wall
That much wattage should be comparable to a 1000w hps.
 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
Looking good getting itchy fingers thinking about getting some of them LED's i can't wait with two i hope to pull a Lb every harvest if i get some good phenotypes this grow
 

PatchKid

Well-Known Member
Looking good getting itchy fingers thinking about getting some of them LED's i can't wait with two i hope to pull a Lb every harvest if i get some good phenotypes this grow
dude if you get 2 of the 500's and you don't get a LB you might as well throw in the towel homie!! haha but in all seriousness I've been reading about 1gram/watt being the Holy grail for HIDs but people getting up to 1.75 gram/watt with TRUE watts of LED. Obviously that still takes an extremely qualified cultivator but still possible. I'm thinking a your average grower could pull .5 out of these no problems given they had the right space so that means even more for you dirty

I setup a new tent with no knife holes in it, (crazy girlfriend explained in my critical kush journal)ditched my squirrel cage fan, and got a hurricane 4 inch blower. it's hooked up with ducting to my carbon filter and they all sit at the top of the tent and it exhausts into my room. ( it makes my room smell....... super clean)

I ditched my 6 inch table fan I use as an intake and just let negative pressure suck in the cold air on the floor as well, so it's lot quirter in there now as well as saving space and keeping it simple. it actually dropped my average temperature by an average of 5 degrees, when my room is controlled to 71 my tent is around 73. Not bad.

here's a look in using just my BD till the GrowBlu comes in and at that point I'll just be running the growblu

 

DirtyNerd

Well-Known Member
Awesome bro yeah i always think ill yield less by lots that way when i look at my yield i am always happy but even if i get the newbie yield of 0.5 on my first run with the two LED's i should get 500grams of dry herb so ill be happy and once i get some good phenotypes going then i should be able to push it to the limits

the only thing im 100% sold on the LED's is the temps as HID are way to hot for me in summer i know one i get the LED's is my brother will copy me he has been growing for years and on my 2nd grow i was kicking his ass but that's because i spend all my time reading more so he just picks my brain and has now done a full copy cat of my grow and this time i think he will do okay

bro i can't wait to see that new LED its going to be sexy what did you end up doing with the two MARS sell them .. ?
 
Top