Hpa/Undercurrent hybrid blackberry fire attempt

shawnery

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Here's what I'm running for the bloom phase of which I am now clearly entering week 3. K's a little bit on the high side but it was the only way I could get my Fe up to 1.5. Last grow before I knew about dosing for individual ppm's I ran the standered ratios. I checked the numbers for my last grow and everything was 20-40ppm higher besides Mg which was 20ppm lower, strange!

Current mix of Masterblend 4-14-38, Cal/Nit, Mag Sul and Koolbloom for P/K
N-83
P-61
K-154
Mg-50
Ca-80
S-63
Fe-1.5
Zn-.185
B-.74
Mn-.74
Cu-.185
Mo-.037
 
shawnery

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What do you think, potassium excess/deficit or mag def? I'm not really worried to much. It's only on the oldest leaves and not really progressing much. It's happened between the beginning of the first week of flower and the beginning of the third week of flower. The timing of it's onset has me leaning towards potassium but it could be mag as well? It's only a few old leaves on each plant. My mag and potassium were both lower then the above post for the first two weeks as well.
 

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Midway through the 3rd week. This will be only my third to, hopefully, harvest and no real experience to know any better.

Would this be considered below average, average or above average?
 

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Not sure if this is a good number, a bad number or a meaningless number but my eight plants in the third week of flower are going through 12 gallons of water every two days.

After the first two weeks of flower I started to get a rise in my EC value and also a drop in my pH. I'm not a happy camper unless my EC is going down in my pH is going up, that's a new thing for me as well.

Lowered my EC from 1.7 to 1.2 and after two days my EC started dropping drastically and my pH started Rising drastically again. I've now raised my EC to 1.3 to see how my pH reacts.

Overall except for some orange spots on some older leaves the plants look fantastic.
 
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Update!

Started on 4th week of flower today. Raised my lights a bit because they were affecting my pistils but not the leaves.

Found the sweet spot for ec, right around 1100 or so, allows for high water uptake and increase in ph. I tried upping ot to 1250 and it stayed right there for a day with less water use. So I dropped it back down to 1100 and will see what happens tomorrow.

Latest nudes!
 

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The worst part of growing cannabis emotionally is between the moment you see pistils to the moment you harvest.

The worst part of growing cannabis physically is trimming.

The best part of growing your own cannabis isn't even getting high but having your test pilots say it's the best they've tried.
 
shawnery

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My ec got stagnet again and my ph started falling ever so slightly. Personally these are two things thay I find to be a warning sign about my growing conditions.

Roots are good.
Replace 1/3 of solution once a week.
Highly oxygenated.

The last thing I came to was my ec level being to high so I've dropped it quite a bit since the ending of the stretch and I'm currently a few days from the beginning of the 5th week of flower. I've lowered it from 1.8ec all the way down to .850ec today.

I'm hoping after lowering the ec another point will start to get the ph rising again and the ec falling. Proof to me that my plants are happy!
 
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Pretty sure the rust spots that are affecting more leaves but only in the canopy is from mag deficiency brought on by my leds. Ive only grown with leds and ive used three different nutes for three different grows all with the same symptoms at the same time on the same section of plant. Each time the lights were at different distances from the canopy so it can't be that.

I upped my mag from 50ppm to 80ppm based on a grow light fixture companies, there are more, hopefully it doesnt spread further.
 
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After upping my mag it raised my ec a little so I was worried I'd start to see a rise in ec and drop in ph even more so but the opposite happened.

My ec stayed level at 1.1 instead of needing to be much lower before the mg increase. Not only that but my ph has gone from dropping large amounts everyday to rising a healthy amount since yesterday and more so every hour.

I can't be sure but to me it seems as if my system is telling me I made the right choice based on everything I've learned in my short 2 years.

Others have said it could be calcium as well or instead of mg so I've decided to play it aggressive and up my cal from 80 to 100ppm as well. Hopefully my plants will continue their simingly positive reaction to the changes I've made.
 
dr.tomb

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shawnery said:
So here's the drop over 4 days.

Quick question for anyone checking this out,

Would you remove most of the foliage below the net and are you a singke day chopper or a slow multiday chopper?
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Obviously to late now, but i use a different method on my plants.

Before flower I already have my set amount of tops (usually 31-36 for a first run of the plants, for a 4x4 area) .

When im about to flip, I'll trim all the tops to the same height.

Then about 2 or 3 days later I'll look at all the lower nodes and any node that grows away from the main branch by over 2" i remove, making sure to leave the fan leaf. I repeated this two or three more times, 1 week apart (strain dependent, usually indicas are 2 times and hybrid and satives 3).

This is a full branch I removed to allow proper light penitration, it shows what I'm talking about.

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And this is the reward
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shawnery

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So I got good news, good news and good news.

Upped my mag two days ago and saw small drop in ec and slight rise in ph. Upped my cal yesterday and say .1 drop in ec and a big rise in ph both of which I am very happy with.

It's so hard to know what the right choice is so I bet on both being right and perhaps they were? Since cal/mag work so closely together in the plant, my understanding, I believed raising both would be benificial as there was some external and internal arguments for each cal and mag being the problem.

Thanks to those who helped!
 
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Just woke from my oven alarm blaring which means only one thing when I'm sleeping, power outage, ohh shit.

My neighbor is awake luckily and let me know it was only out for 40min, which is fine for hpa. Plus since I have the bottom 2 inches of roots in undercurrent they should be able to last much longer, hopefully I never find out.
 
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shawnery

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Deficiencies haven't got any worse that are on the canopy. I ended up increasing cal, mag, pot and phosphorus. I ended up raising my ec from 1.0 to 1.35 during the process and my ec is slightly falling though at 1.1 ot was slightly rising at times.

My question is, if my deficiencies are only where the leaves are in direct light is there really a deficiency? You go one node lower and there is not one sign of the same symptoms as on the canopy.
 
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My plants are 2 days away from week 7 from the switch and 6 weeks from the first sign of flowers. They're roughly 3 feet tall and going through 4 to 5 gallons of solution a day.

They're visually growing at what seems a very slow rate but my question is this.

Considering they're drinking 4-5 gallons a day is that just enough to keep them heathy or should that be enough for them to be putting on weight?
 
shawnery

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Entering week 7 and besides the cal and mag def I had in week four it seems as thought the fall colors are coming in. Usually seems to be a couple weeks from this point.

The first photo is of a two weekd ago and the second photo is of today. I would assume that they have atleast tripled in size and perhaps more.
Besides the def damage to leaves hows the bitches looking?
 

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I'm honored.
If you are going for a head high, I would chop now. If you are going for a couch lock, I'd let the trichomes amber up some more.
 
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